Windows and Linux networking and Samba

retiredat44 · Sep 29, 2023

Windows and Linux networking and Samba. I can get windows 10 on my laptop to see linux desktop, but cannot get Windows 11 to see linux. wth?? what a PIA!
yes, I look on Ubuntu forums, but too much info and mostly worthless!

anyone know of a forum that has easy info that helps this issue? Thanx

cereberus · Sep 30, 2023

Firstly this is Windows 11 forum, not the separatw Windows 10 forum.

Have you tried enabling SMB1 which is now off by default as SMB1 is considered a security risk?

retiredat44 · Sep 30, 2023

cereberus said:
Firstly this is Windows 11 forum, not the separatw Windows 10 forum.

Have you tried enabling SMB1 which is now off by default as SMB1 is considered a security risk?

I have 2 win10, 1 win11, and 1 linux computer.. plus phones..

retiredat44 · Sep 30, 2023

I found a way to use windows share.. with the ip address... so far it's ok. Keep me from transferring from win 11 to win10 and then to linux.

Bree · Sep 30, 2023

retiredat44 said:
I found a way to use windows share.. with the ip address... so far it's ok. Keep me from transferring from win 11 to win10 and then to linux.

I'm very much a beginner with Linux, but I have researched and found three lines to modify/add to the Global section of my Linux Mint VM's smb.conf that lets it be seen by name on the network by Windows machines, and lets it see the names of my Windows machines, be they W10 or W11.

workgroup = <set this to same workgroup as Windows machines>
netbios name = <name you want Windows machines to see>
name resolve order = bcast host

cereberus · Oct 1, 2023

retiredat44 said:
I have 2 win10, 1 win11, and 1 linux computer.. plus phones..

Ok but you never answered the smb1 question.

jimbo45 · Oct 1, 2023

Hi folks

@retiredat44

@Bree

In the Samba configuration (usually in /etc/samba/smb.conf) in the global section - if you are using SMB1 (enable it on W11 via programs and features) then you need to ensure this line is present :

min protocol = NT1 <don't ask me why it's NT1 but I didn't design SAMBA !!!>

ensure also the WORKGROUP in your W11 machine is the same as that of your Linux machine.

workgroup = <Your workgroup name>

add your user to SAMBA via sudo smbpasswd <user>

Ensure the linux server name is in the netbiosname --this enable Windows to find it without having to connect via an IP address

netbios name = <server name>

Also on the W11 system ensure Network discovery is on,and "allow remote connections to this computer" since Samba sends info to networked machines. E.G a remote server to a linux laptop

Finally I'd also add openssh-server in Windows -- add via "Add optional feature" in settings and ensure its started and install openssh on your linux box and ensure that the ssh daemon is enabled and running.

sudo systemctl enable sshd (This only needs to be done once then it automatically starts at boot)

sudo systemctl start sshd

This allows you to SSH from Windows via command line directly into the
cli of the server (don't allow root ssh remote connection though).

Cheers
jimbo

retiredat44 · Oct 1, 2023

yes, I found an easy way and am tired of using sudo nano on conf files in linux... now I use share with IP on the win11 end. All is fixed for me. Ubuntu often was be messed up if you didn't do something perfect. I am sick and tired of coding, I am retired and no longer have to worry about Dos, Cobolt, pascal, etc..etc.. binary, oct, hex... and machine language. I am tired of spending hours ready forums for editing files. I am good now. I just use my Linux computer to read my flight sim manuals while flying combat missions in VR. :)

jimbo45 · Oct 1, 2023

retiredat44 said:
yes, I found an easy way and am tired of using sudo nano on conf files in linux... now I use share with IP on the win11 end. All is fixed for me. Ubuntu often was be messed up if you didn't do something perfect. I am sick and tired of coding, I am retired and no longer have to worry about Dos, Cobolt, pascal, etc..etc.. binary, oct, hex... and machine language. I am tired of spending hours ready forums for editing files. I am good now. I just use my Linux computer to read my flight sim manuals while flying combat missions in VR. :)

Well done !!!
I don't like coding either !!! - not me

but there's plenty of good GUI editors on Linux too --UBUNTU is hideous BTW -- On my laptop I just use ARCH LINUX with KDE (desktop XORG and Wayland plasma) with almost zero bloat. Programs like kate (editor) dolphin and gparted are far better than the Windows File explorer, notepad and any Windows partition manager. krusader also is excellent for moving files around with multiple panels, comparing source etc etc.

Also almost no bloat and can run as many Windows VM's as you want on a FREE VM system (KVM/QEMU)

On a really old laptop - doesn't use many resources either :

and the krusader app

Also no 266 char limit on path / directory/file names lengths either on any Linux file manager.

Anyway enough of the Sales pitch -- glad you got it all fixed

cheers
jimbo

retiredat44 · Oct 2, 2023

I was looking to go back to Linux after decades of windows, I know someone who used Ubuntu, because it does an incredible amount of tasks and used to run concerts, lighting, sounds and more,, also in routers...and have had to load it into routers to use tomato like features. and it was his go to linux. So, I took a chance on the flavor of linux, and haven't changed after I got into it a few years ago for my one computer for just Internet and reading docs only...

I thought about using another flavor, but I really wasn't going to do it unless another flavor appealed to me. Your post caught my attention for changing to a simpler easier one. I will give it some thought. Thanx!!!

jimbo45 · Oct 3, 2023

retiredat44 said:
I was looking to go back to Linux after decades of windows, I know someone who used Ubuntu, because it does an incredible amount of tasks and used to run concerts, lighting, sounds and more,, also in routers...and have had to load it into routers to use tomato like features. and it was his go to linux. So, I took a chance on the flavor of linux, and haven't changed after I got into it a few years ago for my one computer for just Internet and reading docs only...

I thought about using another flavor, but I really wasn't going to do it unless another flavor appealed to me. Your post caught my attention for changing to a simpler easier one. I will give it some thought. Thanx!!!

Arch Linux is a lot easier now these days -- download the iso and boot it up. It's command line based but these days there's a good "guided" wizard script you can use instead of the "old school manual way"). The wiki is also good - almost everything is covered on it and there's a good help forum.

Once you get the login just type arch-install and then it will ask a series of questions and install the basic package,
Exit and reboot. Then from the cli login simply run pacman -S <packages you want to install e.g a desktop GUI etc>

You'll want an Internet browser, a terminal program, a WYSISYG text editor to start with and then you can google etc for other stuff. Add also the YAY helper so you can also add packages from the AUR extra repository -- loads of good stuff in there too.GIT, CURL and WGET are also worth installing.

That way you keep it lean and mean -- when installing a desktop just install the base and add applications individually afterwards otherwise you'll get a whole slew of stuff you don't want or use. For VM's install qemu-desktop.

Cheers
jimbo

retiredat44 · Oct 4, 2023

I will keep it all in mind. Ubuntu does have extensive help forums.. and I only want it for the backup and documents.. and of course Samba sucks, but can't fix that. One very annoying thing is that Ubuntu has constant updates. One doesn't have to apply them if they don't want to.

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