Solved Windows defender has gone MAD! (false positive-ing Tons of files)

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i need to permanently disable windows defender, it keeps deleting normal files and thinks everything is a virus! its deleting nvidia drivers and new apps i install. its thinking everything is a "Virus:Win32/Grenam.A" for now i have disabled what i can see like real time scanning and other check boxes as well as added the entire C drive to the exceptions list
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This virus spreads by attaching its code to other files on your PC or network. Some of the infected programs might no longer run correctly.
How do you know, it is false positive? Have you tested PC with something else?
 

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I would run an offline scan.
 

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Microsoft continually updates security intelligence in antimalware products to cover the latest threats and to constantly tweak detection logic, enhancing the ability of Microsoft Defender Antivirus and other Microsoft antimalware solutions to accurately identify threats. This security intelligence works directly with cloud-based protection to deliver fast and powerful AI-enhanced, next-generation protection.
 

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Perhaps I'll use a 3rd party antivirus once to do a scan to verify if it's ok but it's a brand new windows installation in which I installed no dubious apps since then.
 

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However, if you cached (kept them in an easily accessible location) your driver installers and programs, and your machine was previously infected (and you didn't know it), the infection could have spread to the installers that you kept around.

Rather than disabling Defender, your best course of action is to disconnect it from the network and do an offline scan like Fabler said - and I'd use more than one alternate offline scanner that you download from another machine not on your current network.
 

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not a good idea to use at this time
see recent comments posted there

Windows Defender released an update on September 1st, and I have been unable to disable it since.

Stop working on the last Windows 11 update

Windows Defender re-enables itself in Win11 after either rebooting or installing a new CU, even after using Defender Control to disable it.
 

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Windows Defender re-enables itself in Win11 after either rebooting or installing a new CU, even after using Defender Control to disable it.
Sordum will probably fix it, but that is the reason I have installed a light AV, just to disable Defender. I got tired playing cat and mouse.

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not a good idea to use at this time
see recent comments posted there





Windows Defender re-enables itself in Win11 after either rebooting or installing a new CU, even after using Defender Control to disable it.
I just checked, and Windows Defender is still disabled.

I saw a user comment at Sordum stating that, but it doesn't appear to have affected me .
 

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Sordum will probably fix it, but that is the reason I have installed a light AV, just to disable Defender. I got tired playing cat and mouse.

View attachment 7072

Injecting a bit of humor here....

Umm, then you should by now be supremely tired of Windows.... :lmao:

After today's fiasco with the newest dev build and a JSON seemingly trying to load an ad to use the new Teams breaking the Desktop shell, I'm getting there myself.
 

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Injecting a bit of humor here....

Umm, then you should by now be supremely tired of Windows.... :lmao:

After today's fiasco with the newest dev build and a JSON seemingly trying to load an ad to use the new Teams breaking the Desktop shell, I'm getting there myself.
Oh I've been tired of windows I wrote a whole big giant rant about it already but long story short I'm forced to use Windows because of my work and entertainment preferences. I'm a slave to Windows and I don't like it
 

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one way to disable windows defender is to install another antivirus, Expired or not and it will switch to that.
 

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Resistance is futile!

hmm, something a borg would say from that old Star Trek tv series

defender control is definitely not fully compatible with Win11 yet as I see another recent "not working on W11" comment posted on their web site on 9/5
 

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one way to disable windows defender is to install another antivirus, Expired or not and it will switch to that.
Yup, that worked for me.
 

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fixed with newly released Defender Control 2.0 version, which should also be Win11 compatible

note: I first turn off tamper protection in Win11's defender app before using Defender Control 2.0 to disable it, which seems to work for me that way

It is - was just released 13 Sept 2021, and specifically states Windows 11 compatibility now.
 

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    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2* 1920*1080
    Hard Drives
    3x Sabrent Rocket PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 1 TB SSD (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB)
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM --> RAID1
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 x64 Pro build 21H1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
    Browser
    Edge Chromium | Chrome | Firefox Nightly | Brave
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB4

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@XDM may be right about Windows Defender going MAD. :what:

I thought I had Windows Defender disabled on all of my computers, but I must have missed a laptop and Windows Defender kept trying to delete Nirsoft WirelessNetView saying it's a hack tool. Anyone who uses Nirsoft WirelessNetView knows it is not a hack tool and is safe. I've been using it and other Nirsoft applications for years.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stigg's Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10900X
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
    Memory
    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    PSU
    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata V2
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
    CPU
    Core i7-8750H
    Motherboard
    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    N/A
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Keyboard
    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
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