Windows performance question


martyfelker

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Based on the following post from Betanews and my own experience, Windows's performance is pretty slow compared to most (maybe all) of the Linux distros I have used. is pretty slow even with a new hard drive, motherboard with 65 gb RAM and Ryzen 7 processor. It also ate my Garuda install (typical). All OS's are on separate drives - not just separate partitions.. For performance reasons I am going to install Lubuntu 24.04 over Manjaro. Comments would be welcome.

 

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Fedora Silverblue Rawhide Debian 13 Ubuntu 25...AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core64GBNvidia
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Fedora Silverblue Rawhide Debian 13 Ubuntu 25.10,
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
HomeBrew
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core
Motherboard
Gigabyte
Memory
64GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia
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Dell
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3 ssd 2 spinners configured as raid 0
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Eluktronics
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Eluktronics
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Firefox and Chromium
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Gnome 46
@martyfelker

Seems to me you ought to be on a Linux forum of some sort. Windows users/volunteer adivisers are not likely to offer much in comments on the choice of Lubuntu over Manjaro. Good luck, though.
 

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    11 Pro 24H2 26100.2454i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz32GBDDR4 @ 2666MHzIntel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    OS
    11 Pro 24H2 26100.2454
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
    CPU
    i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GBDDR4 @ 2666MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG E2442
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB NVMe SSD, 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    250GB NVMe SSD (OS and programs), 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    500GB NVMe SSD (Data)
    Case
    Lenovo SFF
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
    Internet Speed
    Fast (for fixed wireless!)
    Browser
    Chrome, sometimes Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium & Defender (working together beautifully!)
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    11 Pro 24H2 26100.2454i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHzIntel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Operating System
    11 Pro 24H2 26100.2454
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
    CPU
    i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG FULL HD (1920x1080@59Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS NVMe; 1 x Samsung 980 NVMe SSD
    Case
    Lenovo Think Centre SFF
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
    Internet Speed
    Fast (for fixed wireless!)
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium and MS Defender, beautiful together
Comments would be welcome.
Okay. I have Win7, Win10, Win11 and Linux Mint Cinnamon on separate computers via KVM. I don't see any issues in operation but I'm not a gamer where performance and speed = more cost. As for Linux, the desktop chosen may affect performance, most distros offer 4 different choices. XFCE appears more like Windows than the others. I have several choices of Linux LiveUSB on Thumb drives for testing. My Linux Mint is on a custom with a Gigabyte motherboard with Core i7 CPU and 16GB RAM and have Win10 on a custom with AMD Phenom II X4 965 CPU and 16GB RAM, others are Dell and HP with Core i5 CPUs, a mix of Desktops and Notebooks. My newest is an HP Notebook with Celeron CPU, inexpensive at $175 but my interest was that it included full year of Microsoft 365 on Win11 Home.
 

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    Win11 Pro RTM Version 24H2 Build 26100.4202Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz12GB
    OS
    Win11 Pro RTM Version 24H2 Build 26100.4202
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro RTM Version 24H2 Build 26100.4202Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz16GBOnboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA a...
    Operating System
    Win11 Pro RTM Version 24H2 Build 26100.4202
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
I've got Windows working fast for me.
Manjaro: Install Arch Linux and from the console install LXQt.
Lubuntu will probably work fine too.
 

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Microsoft Windows 11 HomeIntel Core i5-13490F2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G56...GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (G...
OS
Microsoft Windows 11 Home
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
MSI MS-7D98
CPU
Intel Core i5-13490F
Motherboard
MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI
Memory
2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G560081 6400MT (32-37-37-74); 1.35V)
Graphics Card(s)
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD)
Sound Card
Bluetooth Аудио
Monitor(s) Displays
INNOCN 15K1F
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
WD_BLACK SN770 250GB
KINGSTON SNV2S1000G (ELFK0S.6)
PSU
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W
Case
CG560 - DeepCool
Cooling
ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS / 2 x 140Mm Fan - rear and top; 3 x 120Mm - front
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB TKL
Mouse
Corsair KATAR PRO XT
Internet Speed
100 Mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender Antivirus
Other Info
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66553205
Based on the following post from Betanews and my own experience, Windows's performance is pretty slow compared to most (maybe all) of the Linux distros I have used. is pretty slow even with a new hard drive, motherboard with 65 gb RAM and Ryzen 7 processor. It also ate my Garuda install (typical). All OS's are on separate drives - not just separate partitions.. For performance reasons I am going to install Lubuntu 24.04 over Manjaro. Comments would be welcome.


Performance doing what? There are all kinds of performance variables as well as the task that matters.

I am sure linux in some areas are faster in some respects just as I am sure windows could be faster in others.

It kinda depends on the user and what you would want to do.
 

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    Windows 11 ProRyzen 7 5700 X3D64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws VRTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    4TB Western Digital nvme ssd
    PSU
    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech G213
    Mouse
    Logitech G203
    Internet Speed
    1.2gbps Fiber 😎
  • At a glance

    Chrome OSIntel Pentium Quad Core4GB LPDDR4
    Operating System
    Chrome OS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Chromebook
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Quad Core
    Memory
    4GB LPDDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14 Inch HD SVA anti glare micro edge display
    Hard Drives
    64 GB emmc
I like Windows 11, it performs pretty well, but my rig is certainly not the latest and greatest. Since we’re on a Windows forum, I’m guessing I can talk about LTSB? I use it probably 80% of the time, and it performs “on my machine” as well as 7, and definitely out performs 11. Again, I like 11, and I’m no gamer, so I’m a happy camper. 😊
 

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Windows XP (Stable, iconic) 7/8.1/10/ Tiny11 ...Intel i7 4790K32GB DDR3 1600 MHzATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
OS
Windows XP (Stable, iconic) 7/8.1/10/ Tiny11 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Alienware PC
CPU
Intel i7 4790K
Motherboard
ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
Memory
32GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
Hard Drives
SAMSUNG 860 EVO 250 gigabyte SSD
PSU
EVGA 850 watt
Case
Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
Keyboard
HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless
Internet Speed
1.2 GHz
Browser
Chrome..Edge..Firefox
@martyfelker

Seems to me you ought to be on a Linux forum of some sort. Windows users/volunteer adivisers are not likely to offer much in comments on the choice of Lubuntu over Manjaro. Good luck, though.

I agree.

@martyfelker do you even use Windows 11 anymore?


I like Windows 11, it performs pretty well, but my rig is certainly not the latest and greatest. Since we’re on a Windows forum, I’m guessing I can talk about LTSB? I use it probably 80% of the time, and it performs “on my machine” as well as 7, and definitely out performs 11. Again, I like 11, and I’m no gamer, so I’m a happy camper. 😊
🙏
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built 2013
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    ROG SupremeFX Formula 8-Channel High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Touch Screen Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list. OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / Mx Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    2000/500Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
    TP-Link BE9300 WiFi 7 Bluetooth 5.4 (Archer TBE550E)
    TP-Link TX201 V1 2.5GB Lan

    Grandstream HT812 - VoIP
    ASUS DSL-AX82U - Mesh
    ASUS RT-AC68U - Mesh
    ASUS RT-BE88U Router

    Brother MFC-L2880DW Printer

    I’m on a horse.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655 (Wifes)13th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-1340P Process...16GB LPDDR5-52001x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655 (Wifes)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7 14IRL8 - Type 82YL
    CPU
    13th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-1340P Processor(Core™ i5-1340P)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5-5200
    Graphics card(s)
    1x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512 GB SSD PCIe
    Mouse
    Logiteck MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    2000/500
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.


    Wireless Network: Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 AX; Bluetooth® 5.1 or above
    Ports: 1x 1 Novo button; 2 in 1 Audio Combo jack; Micro SD Card Reader; HDMI 1.4b; 2 x USB Type-C (TBT4)
    USB 3.2 Gen 2 DP 1.4a
    PD 3.0); 1 x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type A
    Camera
    1x 1080P FHD IR/RGB Hybrid with Privacy Shutter and Dual Array Microphone
    Graphics
    1x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Monitor
    14" WUXGA
    Form Factor
    Convertible Notebook
  • Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655 (Wifes)

    Yoga 7 2-in-1 14IML9 - Type 83DJ

    Processor: Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 155H Processor(Core™ Ultra 7 155H)

    Memory: 32GB LPD5X-7467

    Hard Drive: 1 TB SSD PCIe

    Wireless Network: 1x Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 AX; Bluetooth® 5.1 or above

    Ports: 1 x HDMI 2.1 TMDS; 1 x Novo Button; 1 x Combo Audio Jack
    2 x USB-C (USB 4.0)
    1 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1

    Camera: 1080P FHD IR Hybrid with Dual Microphone

    Graphics: Intel® Arc™ Graphics

    Monitor: 14" 2.8K

    ...Where's my horse?
My Win 11 installation runs really really fast for what I do with it. I can game with demanding games and it is snappy and responsive, so I am really happy with it. I should note that beyond turning Copilot off and tweaking the start menu to not show favorites (last apps opened) my Win 11 installations are all virgin out of the box installs. No other tweaks or utilities at all running to make my Windows experience "easier."

With my Linux machines, I actually spend more time keeping them up to date and struggling to get my software running again after updating or even installing new software (some of my apps require significant fiddling to even run properly) than I actually spend time using them, it seems. Linux seems pretty fast from a user perspective when the app actually runs, but I can compile a heck of lot faster on my Windows machine using similar libraries and code.

Just my not so objective experience here, but I think it would be pretty much a dead heat on the same hardware for most non-scientific and programming things. I don't know about gaming though, I haven't tried it on my Linux machines. They are for work.
 

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Win 11 Pro 25H2Intel i7 13700KF32 GB Team Group DDR5 - 6000 CL 30ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
OS
Win 11 Pro 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Self build
CPU
Intel i7 13700KF
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z790 UD AC
Memory
32 GB Team Group DDR5 - 6000 CL 30
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
Sound Card
On board Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
ACER 34 inch
Screen Resolution
4K
Hard Drives
1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
PSU
EVGA 1000Q
Case
Rosewill something or other
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
Keyboard
Logitech G815
Mouse
Logitech G502 Hero
Internet Speed
700 up, 600 down
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
MalwareBytes
To make Windows as fast as Linux you must disable all visual effects (Linux has none) and disable all the startup applications except the absolutely necessary (Linux runs almost nothing at startup). Go to Settings, Accessibility, Visual Effects and disable transparency and fades. Also go to Settings, System, Info, Advanced System Settings, Performance and disable anything with "transparency", "animation" and "fade" in the description (uncheck the box). You can leave the shadows in mouse cursor and elsewhere they don't use many resources. Also open Task Manager, go to Startup tab and uncheck all startup applications such as Microsoft Edge or other browsers, Skype, Zoom, and all updaters (Google update) or update reminders. You can manually load any application only when you want it. You can also manually check for updates once a week. You will see great improvement in performance.

Also important: Don't trust Windows update for the graphics drivers. Download the latest appropriate driver for your graphics card directly from nVidia/Intel/AMD. In most cases Windows Update drivers are outdated and have the default settings without letting you tweak them. The official driver has the Graphics Properties (or respective Control Panel) to tweak performance and other settings. You will be amazed with the difference in performance.
 

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  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (8655)Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz4GBMobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (8655)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.8655)Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generat...2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB...
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.8655)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
install classic theme and 2d window is very fast
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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Iot Enterprise 21h2 22000.3260xeon E5-2697v232gb 8x4gb ddr3 1333 mhzgtx 570 poit of view
OS
Windows 11 Iot Enterprise 21h2 22000.3260
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Asus
CPU
xeon E5-2697v2
Motherboard
rampage iv extreme
Memory
32gb 8x4gb ddr3 1333 mhz
Graphics Card(s)
gtx 570 poit of view
Sound Card
realtek HD (ALC898)
Monitor(s) Displays
samsung b2030
Screen Resolution
1600x900
Hard Drives
2tb hd 5400 rpm
3tb hd 5400 rpm
1tb nvme pcie 3.0
PSU
hx850w
Keyboard
mtek
Internet Speed
500/250 gpon
Browser
r3dfox 146.0
Antivirus
none

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