Solved 5600MT/s (46-45-45-90) -> 6200MT/s (40-39-39-70)


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DRAM Voltage 1.1v -> 1.2v
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I'm struggling with the point of the post? What are you trying to show?
 

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If you have a RAM kit without factory overclocking profiles, you can easily improve it.
JEDEC profiles are too conservative.

I'm not a 'pro' to teach anything about life.

The forum turned into a 'Wailing Wall', does anyone really have small personal achievements?
 
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Hi again,

Memory IC chips are designed to meet the jdec specs taking into account variation in quality when manufacturing the IC. So it is not that the jdec specs are conservative, but the chip designs need to be in order to meet the specs. Higher speed RAM generally have the same type of ICs but are binned for higher quality and hence can run at higher speed. This means lower rated speed RAM like profileless jdec has lower quality and less margin for overclocking. Also, OC RAM by just increasing the speed some doesn't provide much of a performance improvement. You also have to tighten many individual timings to get much of a real world benefit, and that is tough and really not worth the research and effort required.

Your testing is not really sufficient to ensure RAM stability. Latency checker doesn't test stability at all. That's the hard part and can take a lot of effort - especially with ddr5. And if you don't have stability you eventually will get bitten.

My 2c
 
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Thank you for very valuable comments.
 

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Manufacturer/Model
MSI MS-7D98
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Intel Core i5-13490F
Motherboard
MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI
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2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G560081 6400MT (32-37-37-74); 1.35V)
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GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD)
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Bluetooth Аудио
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INNOCN 15K1F
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WD_BLACK SN770 250GB
KINGSTON SNV2S1000G (ELFK0S.6)
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Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W
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CG560 - DeepCool
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ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS / 2 x 140Mm Fan - rear and top; 3 x 120Mm - front
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