A new OS for when old computers can't handle Windows 11


mackie

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OK, so I went to youtube to see if they had anything on it, and the videos are popping up now. The installs are from the dev channel since it's not out yet. Here's one:

 

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Dell Optiplex 960
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Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00 GHz x 2
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8 GB
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Intel 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
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HP x22LED
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Crucial 250 GB SSD, HD 1Tb
Interesting. I haven't had much luck with mainstream linux on old computers. There are certainly more niche linux distros that cater to older hardware I wonder if google is actually going to optimize in that regard. Especially the browser which google obviously has full control over except being tied to the mainline chrome codebase. Even lite linux distros are beholden to the browser which they typically don't have control over.
 

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It's the old Cloud Ready revamped after Google bought it in 2020. No Linux or Play Store
 

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Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 CanaryAMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX32GBNVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
OS
Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 Canary
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell Alienware M15 Ryzen Edition R6
CPU
AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX
Memory
32GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
Hard Drives
1 x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
1 x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
Well, it's definitely another option for older computers for when the day arrives and Windows 10 expires and we find Windows 11 starts showing issues on older pc's. I was watching another video of the install, and the narrator was warning about saving your data because everything, including the Windows OS, will be wiped out. I guess that probably means that a dual boot OS system is out of the question? This is just the dev form, so maybe too early to tell. The guy narrating said it made his old laptop 'blazing fast.' though......... his words.

Don't know how I would feel about turning pc into a Chromebook with no options for other browsers. That's a negative for me.

CR: yeah that is Cloud Ready revamped.

 

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Dell Optiplex 960
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Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00 GHz x 2
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8 GB
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Intel 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
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HP x22LED
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Crucial 250 GB SSD, HD 1Tb
Interesting. I haven't had much luck with mainstream linux on old computers. There are certainly more niche linux distros that cater to older hardware I wonder if google is actually going to optimize in that regard. Especially the browser which google obviously has full control over except being tied to the mainline chrome codebase. Even lite linux distros are beholden to the browser which they typically don't have control over.
I used to put Bodhi Linux on anything that wouldn't run Windows. Works well. It's nothing like as sophisticated IMO but works well on netbooks. Works well on any computer actually. Always had issues with the others. It think it's about the only one that still has a 32 bit option.
 

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    Windows 11 Home 25H2Core i5-1035G132gb
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    Windows 11 Home 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3606sa
    CPU
    Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    32gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 870 evo sata ssd
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally came installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
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    Windows 11 HomeIntel Core i5-1035G116gb
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion ce3606sa
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Hynix Gold P31 2TB
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
Don't know how I would feel about turning pc into a Chromebook with no options for other browsers. That's a negative for me.
I have an old W10 laptop, just seeing if it will dual boot this. downloading now
 

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Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 CanaryAMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX32GBNVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
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Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 Canary
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell Alienware M15 Ryzen Edition R6
CPU
AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX
Memory
32GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
Hard Drives
1 x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
1 x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
You can actually install android on a computer. Doesn't work very well though, I found! I wouldn't be keen on a "chromebook" either.
 

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    Windows 11 Home 25H2Core i5-1035G132gb
    OS
    Windows 11 Home 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3606sa
    CPU
    Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    32gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 870 evo sata ssd
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally came installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
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    Windows 11 HomeIntel Core i5-1035G116gb
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion ce3606sa
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Hynix Gold P31 2TB
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
Nope, the Chrome OS is horrible.
 

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    Windows 11 HomeAMD Ryzen 5 5600X16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6600XT with 8G...
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    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
    Motherboard
    MSI B550-A Pro
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6600XT with 8GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Realtek integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Nitro 24" RG241Y 144hz refresh rate
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB NVMe SSD
    Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB SATA SSD
    Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD
    PSU
    LEPA B650 650 watt
    Case
    Enermax Coenus
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper T4 air
    Keyboard
    CM Storm Devastator
    Mouse
    E-Blue Cobra Jr.
    Internet Speed
    100mbs
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
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    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Optical Drives: LG DVD-RW and Pioneer BluRay/ DVD burner
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    Windows 11 HomeAMD Ryzen 9 6900HS16 GB Samsung DDR5-4800Integrated Radeon 680M and discrete Radeon RX...
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
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    Asus ROG Zephyrus G14
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS
    Motherboard
    Asus board (GA402RK)
    Memory
    16 GB Samsung DDR5-4800
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Radeon 680M and discrete Radeon RX 6800S with 8GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek with Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Laptop screen 14" WQXGA, IPS, 120hz refresh rate
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    1TB PCIe Gen 4 SSD (WD Black SN850)
    PSU
    Battery power and Asus power brick/adapter. Also has USB-C charging
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    Laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop fans in vapor chamber
    Keyboard
    Built in RGB backlit
    Mouse
    Touchpad and Omoton bluetooth mouse
    Internet Speed
    100mbps
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender

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    Windows 11 Home 25H2Core i5-1035G132gb
    OS
    Windows 11 Home 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3606sa
    CPU
    Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    32gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 870 evo sata ssd
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally came installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
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    Windows 11 HomeIntel Core i5-1035G116gb
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion ce3606sa
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Hynix Gold P31 2TB
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
So is Google positioning itself - with their new (unreleased at this time) Chrome OS Flex - for those millions of old computers that won't be able to handle Windows 11?

It looks like it works similar to how Linux distributions do and you can check it out without actually installing on the computer hdd/ssd.

I think most computers could handle Windows 11 that will run Windows 10 - with the rufus install and tpm requirements etc removed. Except 32 bit computers - which will run hardly anything! Or those that wouldn't upgrade to Windows 10. But for how long is another matter. I guess once Windows 10 stops being supported, a lot of those computers will be "old". But I think an old computer is still a working computer until it dies! So running something is good. I'm a bit of a fan of bodhi linux for things that won't run windows. It's a pain to install but works well. Main problem is Linux software seems very dated compared to windows these days.
 

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    Windows 11 Home 25H2Core i5-1035G132gb
    OS
    Windows 11 Home 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3606sa
    CPU
    Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    32gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 870 evo sata ssd
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally came installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
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    Windows 11 HomeIntel Core i5-1035G116gb
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion ce3606sa
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Hynix Gold P31 2TB
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
I saw someplace where Chromebook supports Linux Debian. They turn it 'on' and with a simple linux install command they install the browser of their choice (Firefox, Vivaldi, etc.). When they switch out of Debian and back to regular Chrome mode, the browsers are there and available. I don't know if Debian is available in Chrome OS Flex though. That would be a definite plus for me.
 

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Windows 11/Linux MintIntel Core 2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00 GHz x 28 GBIntel 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Co...
OS
Windows 11/Linux Mint
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell Optiplex 960
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00 GHz x 2
Memory
8 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
Monitor(s) Displays
HP x22LED
Hard Drives
Crucial 250 GB SSD, HD 1Tb
I actually didn't mind my chromebook. I used one while I cared for my mother as I was handling her, and my finances and I just felt safer with doing it with the chromebook.
Not sure I would like the above operating system though if I could not use the playstore.
 

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    Windows11intel 8250 I58gbintel uhd 620
    OS
    Windows11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Huawei Matebook X Pro
    CPU
    intel 8250 I5
    Memory
    8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    intel uhd 620
    Monitor(s) Displays
    built in laptop display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1280
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M2
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
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    Windows 10AMD Ryzen 7300U16 GB DDR4AMD Raedon RX Vega graphics onboard
    Operating System
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer A515-43-R6DE
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7300U
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Raedon RX Vega graphics onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15"6 FHD IPS Slim Bezel
    Hard Drives
    512cb PCie NVME SSD
    Case
    Pure Silver
    Keyboard
    Inbuilt
    Mouse
    Touchpad and Logitech external mouse
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
Chromebooks are fine for kids(or adults) that don't need a full fat computer.
 

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I still had a windows laptop to play with. I had the chromebook for finances only.
 

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    Windows11intel 8250 I58gbintel uhd 620
    OS
    Windows11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Huawei Matebook X Pro
    CPU
    intel 8250 I5
    Memory
    8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    intel uhd 620
    Monitor(s) Displays
    built in laptop display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1280
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M2
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
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    Windows 10AMD Ryzen 7300U16 GB DDR4AMD Raedon RX Vega graphics onboard
    Operating System
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer A515-43-R6DE
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7300U
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Raedon RX Vega graphics onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15"6 FHD IPS Slim Bezel
    Hard Drives
    512cb PCie NVME SSD
    Case
    Pure Silver
    Keyboard
    Inbuilt
    Mouse
    Touchpad and Logitech external mouse
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
I think most computers could handle Windows 11 that will run Windows 10 - with the rufus install and tpm requirements etc removed. Except 32 bit computers - which will run hardly anything! Or those that wouldn't upgrade to Windows 10. But for how long is another matter. I guess once Windows 10 stops being supported, a lot of those computers will be "old". But I think an old computer is still a working computer until it dies! So running something is good. I'm a bit of a fan of bodhi linux for things that won't run windows. It's a pain to install but works well. Main problem is Linux software seems very dated compared to windows these days.
My test computer running W 11 is one of those, it's 64-bit and runs 11 amazingly well. I would like MS to create a W 11 Lite for older machines for the future, but that's just wishful thinking. But.... who knows what they'll be doing in a few years. I've played with several distros but never bodhi. I finally settled on Mint and it's worked well for my basic usage. Other things, I go to Windows.
 

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Windows 11/Linux MintIntel Core 2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00 GHz x 28 GBIntel 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Co...
OS
Windows 11/Linux Mint
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell Optiplex 960
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00 GHz x 2
Memory
8 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
Monitor(s) Displays
HP x22LED
Hard Drives
Crucial 250 GB SSD, HD 1Tb
For 32bit only linux I have had good experiences with Bunsen Labs linux. They still maintain a 32bit build which is nice. Last time I played with it I was able to get 1080p h.264 (tweaked) playback on a pentium-m.
 

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I have a Chromebook sitting on my shelf gathering dust. I haven't had a chance to change it over to puppy linux yet.
I found the chomebook too limited for me or others who like to "play" with their OS's.
 

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    windows 10, 112.20 gigahertz AMD A6-3620 APU16 gigsNVIDIA GeForce GT 710
    OS
    windows 10, 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gateway DX4370G
    CPU
    2.20 gigahertz AMD A6-3620 APU
    Motherboard
    Gateway DX4370G
    Memory
    16 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 710
    Sound Card
    AMD HDMI AUDIO
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung c27f390 (curved) 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    931GB Western Digital WDC WDBNCE0010PNC (SATA (SSD))
    465GB SHGS31-500GS-2 (SATA (SSD))
    multiple usb drives
    PSU
    unknown
    Case
    tower
    Keyboard
    logitech k400r
    Mouse
    logitech m570
    Internet Speed
    113 mbps
    Browser
    firefox
    Antivirus
    malwarebytes
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    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 22000.4932.80 gigahertz Intel core i5-840016 gigsIntel(R) UDH Graphics 630
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 22000.493
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    hp Pavillion 590-p0053w
    CPU
    2.80 gigahertz Intel core i5-8400
    Motherboard
    hp 843B 00
    Memory
    16 gigs
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) UDH Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) Display Audio onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung c27f390 (curved) 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Ct500mx500ssd1 (500 gig)
    M2 pcie nvme 500 gig
    Case
    box
    Keyboard
    logitech m185
    Mouse
    logitech k270
    Browser
    firefox
    Antivirus
    malwarebytes
Any joy? :)
Na, I ended up thinking what was the point tbh. I got it downloaded and live booted from the usb and then stopped
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 CanaryAMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX32GBNVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
OS
Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 Canary
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell Alienware M15 Ryzen Edition R6
CPU
AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX
Memory
32GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
Hard Drives
1 x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
1 x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
Hi,
Win-10 still has a lot of years of support and 32 bit compatible
Chrome/ book is a google one for who ever likes that company deal which I'd never be part of

Linux wise options are for the most part sudo pretty lame compared to windows to do basic stuff.
 

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Win-7-10-11Pro's10900k & 9940x & 5930kTrident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 36...Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
OS
Win-7-10-11Pro's
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
CPU
10900k & 9940x & 5930k
Motherboard
z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
Memory
Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
Graphics Card(s)
Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek x3
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
Hard Drives
2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
PSU
1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
Case
D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
Cooling
Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
Keyboard
G710+x3
Mouse
Redragon x3
Internet Speed
xfinity gigabyte
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
mbam pro
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