about waking from sleep(s3) problem


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Hello
My 24h2 has no problem about sleep mode.But clean 25h2 install has a problem. my pc sleeps with no problem but not waking up from sleep(s3) .when I try to wake up my pc,it opens like no problem but it doesn't open my screen and not give power usb ports like my keyboard lights don't open(my keyboard properties).

I tried different things
Driver update
power menu:
sleep mixed mode disable
usb sleep enabled
waking timer enabled



how to solve this problem? clean install 24h2?

thank you
 
Windows Build/Version
26200.7462

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
Install GPU driver to see it helps.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
1 I agree that it was worth re-installing the display driver as there's no diagnostic test to see if it has become corrupted.
- If the graphics card was part of the computer when you bought it then the computer maker should be able to provide you with a driver download.
- Otherwise, download the driver from the card maker.
While you are at it, it can also be worth stopping WU from including hardware drivers. WU has started behaving very oddly and many users have reported it causing problems. You'll then need to get updated drivers yourself in future but at least you can be confident that WU is not going to overwrite what you've done.
Enable or Disable Include Drivers with Windows Updates - ElevenForumTutorials
[I only saw your comment about this after posting. I had been slow in writing my comments.]

2 I assume that you have S3 Sleep available. The response to the command PowerCfg -a will tell you.
If this computer originally had S0 Modern standby [aka S0 Low power idle] then it might always have had some incompatibility with S3 Sleep that has only begun to manifest itself with the update to 25H2.

3 I think it would also be worth finding out if the computer is entering S3 Sleep at all or is just crashing straightaway.
Event viewer records can tell you this. You can make using it easier by setting up a Custom view for these particular events. I've set up a Custom view for this and you can import it using the guide in
Importing Event Viewer, Custom View - my post #23 - ElevenForum
Read from the para beginning You can see records of transitions between power states in Event viewer if you want.


Best of luck,
Denis
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 25H2 Build 26200.8037
FWIW, I had this very problem for months with the Nvidia driver and the RTX4060 GPU. I was back to running with the Intel on-board graphics for about three months, and a couple weeks ago loaded the latest Nvidia driver and switched back to my GPU. So far, it hasn't reoccurred, so maybe they finally fixed whatever was wrong with the GPU drivers.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
I've noticed that both Gaming and Studio versions of NVIDIA drivers deteriorate with use. The more I use any specific PC with an NVIDIA GPU, the more likely it is to develop issues. On my dual-monitor desktop rig, that means (for example) that the right-hand monitor will start blinking or periodically blacking out. I used to wonder if the driver "knew" a new version was out, because this often happened at around the same time a new one got released. But recently, having switched to Studio drivers (which don't update as often as Gaming ones) I realized that reinstalling the same driver takes care of such issues as nicely as installing a new one.
Go figure!
--Ed--
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo X380 Yoga
    CPU
    i7-8650U (8th Gen/Kaby Lake)
    Motherboard
    20LH000MUS (U3E1)
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620
    Sound Card
    Integrated Conexant SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    FlexView Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 1 TB PCIe x3 NVMe SSD
    external 5TB Seagate USB-C attached HDD
    PSU
    Lenovo integrated 65W power brick
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop
    Keyboard
    Integrated Lenovo ThinkPad keyboard
    Mouse
    touchscreen, touchpad
    Internet Speed
    GbE (Spectrum/Charter)
    Browser
    all of em
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Purchased early 2019 as Windows Insider test PC
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Ryzen 5800X
    Motherboard
    Asrock B550 Extreme4
    Memory
    128 GB (4x32 DDR5-5600)
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA 3070Ti
    Sound Card
    built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2xDell 2707
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1200
    Hard Drives
    2XNVMe, multiple HDDs from 3 to 12 TB
    PSU
    Seasonic 650
    Case
    NZXT Flo 6
    Cooling
    dual-fan air cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech Logi
    Internet Speed
    GbE
    Browser
    all of 'em
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    temperamental UEFI
I had an issue with S0 modern standby sleep at one time when I upgraded the NVIDIA driver using the NVIDIA app. The PC wouldn't wake the screen from sleep and would then BSOD. Got scolded by Dell Support since it was a laptop and laptop graphics hardware tends to be tweaked and tested for manufacturer graphics drivers. No more issues after sticking with the Dell NIVDIA drivers although they are always outdated. Don't know if your machine is a laptop or not but just food for thought.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware 18 Area-51
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX (24-Core)
    Motherboard
    Alienware
    Memory
    64GB DDR5 6400MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 and Intel UHD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Onboard, Realtek high-performance Audio chips (ALC3329 & ALC1708))
    Monitor(s) Displays
    300HZ 18-inch QHD 500 nit Comfort View+
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2TB NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen 5 SSD
    Case
    Magnesium Alloy
    Cooling
    Advanced Cryo-Tech Quad-Fan Cooling system & large vapor chamber
    Keyboard
    Cherry MX ultra low profile mechanical keyboard with per key AlienFX RGB lighting
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4
    Browser
    Vivaldi (main), Firefox, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop 7
    CPU
    Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite (12 Core) ARM based CPU
    Motherboard
    Microsoft Corp.
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Qualcomm Adreno X1-85
    Sound Card
    Omnisonic speakers with Dolby Atmos spatial sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    120 Hz 13.8-inch 600 nit PixelSense Flow touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    2304x1536
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe Gen 4 SSD
    Case
    Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Traditional active cooling fan system
    Keyboard
    Mechanical QWERTY, backlit when in use
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4 and Surface Arc Mouse
    Browser
    Vivaldi (main), Firefox, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
True that @FrancoDT. In my case, it's 3070 Ti running on an Asrock B550 mobo with AMD 5800X CPU. So I get in there and mess with it directly thru the NVIDIA app. But for the OP and other readers, it's good to check the OEM downloads for customized GPU drivers before turning to generic drivers from the GPU maker. Same principle is true for NVIDIA, AMD and Intel graphics drivers, BTW.
Thanks for sharing that observation.
--Ed--
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo X380 Yoga
    CPU
    i7-8650U (8th Gen/Kaby Lake)
    Motherboard
    20LH000MUS (U3E1)
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620
    Sound Card
    Integrated Conexant SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    FlexView Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 1 TB PCIe x3 NVMe SSD
    external 5TB Seagate USB-C attached HDD
    PSU
    Lenovo integrated 65W power brick
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop
    Keyboard
    Integrated Lenovo ThinkPad keyboard
    Mouse
    touchscreen, touchpad
    Internet Speed
    GbE (Spectrum/Charter)
    Browser
    all of em
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Purchased early 2019 as Windows Insider test PC
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Ryzen 5800X
    Motherboard
    Asrock B550 Extreme4
    Memory
    128 GB (4x32 DDR5-5600)
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA 3070Ti
    Sound Card
    built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2xDell 2707
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1200
    Hard Drives
    2XNVMe, multiple HDDs from 3 to 12 TB
    PSU
    Seasonic 650
    Case
    NZXT Flo 6
    Cooling
    dual-fan air cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech Logi
    Internet Speed
    GbE
    Browser
    all of 'em
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    temperamental UEFI
my mobo is old. So I disabled modern standby(s0). but I don't know how to enable legacy s3 in windows 11 25h2

motherboard:msi 990fxa gaming ,gpu:rx580
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
I disabled modern standby(s0)
Some people have done so without any problems.
There's probably no telling if it is related to your current issues other than enabling it again to see what happens.
And do consider my other suggestions above.

Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials

I don't know how to enable legacy s3
If disabling S0 Modern standby did not result in S3 Sleep being enabled automatically then I do not believe that you can ever enable S3 Sleep.
Your computer maker's support group and/or user forums might have something useful to say on the matter.


I used to dislike S0 Modern standby [aka S0 Low power idle] intensely but then I learnt how to tame it and am now content.
Why did you disable it?

When I tested several computers against each other a couple of years ago, I found that S0 Modern standby used as little power as a comparable computer did in S3 Sleep.
Power consumption in S0 Modern standby and S3 Sleep - my post #85 - ElevenForum
I also discovered that the way to allow scripts to run during S0 Modern standby was to set the Power options entry Sleep after to Never.
This stops S0 Modern standby from entering a later phase that does not allow scripts to run. It is this aspect that can lead to different results for the first few minutes in S0 Modern standby and so confuse the issue.
Running scripts during S0 Modern standby - my post #86 - ElevenForum


All the best,
Denis
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 25H2 Build 26200.8037
I've noticed that both Gaming and Studio versions of NVIDIA drivers deteriorate with use. The more I use any specific PC with an NVIDIA GPU, the more likely it is to develop issues. On my dual-monitor desktop rig, that means (for example) that the right-hand monitor will start blinking or periodically blacking out. I used to wonder if the driver "knew" a new version was out, because this often happened at around the same time a new one got released. But recently, having switched to Studio drivers (which don't update as often as Gaming ones) I realized that reinstalling the same driver takes care of such issues as nicely as installing a new one.
Go figure!
--Ed--
WOW, talk about timely! Right after I wake up from sleep, maybe up to around 5 minutes, my main monitor blanks out for a couple seconds. When I was running on the Intel drivers with the on-board video, that never happened. With all the hype around Nvidia as a "great" graphics company, I'm totally unimpressed with their software! I never had nearly the amount of issues when I had an AMD GPU, I'm seriously considering going back to that brand!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
Hello
My 24h2 has no problem about sleep mode.But clean 25h2 install has a problem. my pc sleeps with no problem but not waking up from sleep(s3) .when I try to wake up my pc,it opens like no problem but it doesn't open my screen and not give power usb ports like my keyboard lights don't open(my keyboard properties).

please check if fast start-up is enabled then disabling 'fast start-up'
control panel > power options

in the left side 'change what the power buttons do'

in this window
towards the bottom 'shut-down settings'

fast start-up is listed there
disable fast start-up and then try your sleep mode.
best of luck Steve ..
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 24" AiO
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Sound Card
    RealTek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" HP AiO
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD Blue SN580 M2 SSD Partitioned.
    2x 1TB USB HDD External Backup/Storage.
    PSU
    90W external power brick
    Case
    24" All in One
    Cooling
    Default Air Cooling
    Keyboard
    HP WiFi UK extended
    Mouse
    HP WiFi 3 Button
    Internet Speed
    1GB full fibre
    Browser
    Edge & Firefox
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security/Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
  • Operating System
    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 13" Latitude 2017
    CPU
    i5 7200u
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel
    Sound Card
    Intel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13" Dell Laptop
    Hard Drives
    250GB Crucial 2.5" SSD
    Mouse
    Generic WiFi 3 button
    Internet Speed
    WiFi only
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    ClamAV TK
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software

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