Added an extra 1Tb M.2 SSD, now all my programs take ages to open. Why?


johnnyboy114

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I recently rebuilt my computer with a new motherboard, CPU and graphics card and all was going swimmingly.

It's an MSI Z790 Gaming with Wifi, Intel Core i7 14700K CPU and a GeForce 3060 GPU with 12Gb. System is also running 32Gb DDR5.

Windows version is 23H2 running on a 1Tb M.2 SSD

I am a professional wedding photographer and the computer really only runs editing running predominantly, predominantly Lightroom, Photoshop, Photo Mechanic etc.

For extra storage and speed, I decided I wanted to add another M.2 SSD, so added a Crucial P3 Plus 1Tb M.2 SSD to the third slot of my motherboard (the board can take 4 x M.2 slots).

When I did this and initialised the disk, I suddenly found that programs like Lightroom etc all started to slow down significantly.....so much so that when trying to load them, it would take up to 4 mins at a time for Lightroom to even become usable.

Is there a reason for this? Why would the addition of an SSD SLOW the computer down? I would have imagined it would have had at LEAST no effect on this as it's purely storage, nothing else? And the board is relatively decent and should be able to take 4 M.2 SSD's.

I do have an older 250Gb M.2 SSD in the second slot on the motherboard, so I am wondering if I am overloading the motherboard? Or is there something I need to configure, maybe in BIOS?

I am a total complete computer idiot when it comes to this detailed kind of thing, so any help would be really grateful. Thank you!
 
Windows Build/Version
23H2 (OS Build 22631.3737)

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Chillblast
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 14700K
    Motherboard
    MSI Z790 Gaming with Wifi
    Memory
    32Gb DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 3060
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung
    Case
    Corsair
Connecting M.2 SSD is the way to speed up application startup time try different M.2 slot or maybe you did not connect the M.2 SSD securely check that as well.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
Which M.2 slots are used can also be important to speed of programs loading.
Check your manual and your BIOS setting options.
In many cases, the data lanes used by the slots are altered in number of lanes available to any one slot when one introduces a new M.2 device. (Especially if the device is not the same generation as the other on the Motherboard.)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    ASUS X470 Prime Pro
    Memory
    32GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 2518HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Boot: NVME WDC WDS500G; ASUS M.2 Riser card with 3 additional NVME drives
    Various Internal SDD (Samsung and WDC) and HDD drives mostly Western Digital
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus Gold 650W
    Case
    Corsair 200R
    Cooling
    Noctua PWM fans x 3
    Keyboard
    Corsair K60 SE Pro
    Mouse
    Corsair Dark Core RGB Pro SE
    Internet Speed
    75/75
    Browser
    MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium
your motherboard might have a limitation on speed and pci bandwidth depending on how many sata drives you have connected, as well as combined with nvme. Check your motherboard manual for information to see if your limiting yourself.

You could also run something like crystal disk mark with the drive not connected and with it installed to see if the speed is being affected.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell G15 5525
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 6800H
    Memory
    32 GB DDR5 4800mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3050 Mobile 4GB Vram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz
    Screen Resolution
    Internal laptop screen: 1920 x 1080 @ 120hz
    Hard Drives
    2TB Solidigm™ P41 Plus nvme
    Internet Speed
    800mbps down, 20 up
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ideapad flex 14API 2 in 1
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 3500u
    Motherboard
    LENOVO LNVNB161216 (FP5)
    Memory
    12GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics
    Hard Drives
    256 GB Samsung ssd nvme
You should also enable AHCI mode from BIOS, you need to select SATA Mode and switch to AHCI.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
I have a Desktop with a 512GB NVMe M.2 and added a 2TB SATA HDD, no speed issue accessing files on it. The HDD is 7200RPM.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 2TB WDC HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
That's certainly not something I would expect you to see. Even if you did drop speeds a bit on the PCI Express bus due to the number of devices connected, it shouldn't be something that would slow down loads of applications like Lightroom to take up to 4 minutes to become usable.

I would certainly do some testing on that new SSD if you can? For example, I would drop it in a test box (as I have extra) and would run it by itself just to make sure that it works as expected.

I would remove the drive from your current setup to make sure that speeds immediately return back to normal.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
I would update BIOS, chipset driver and check whether M2 is not damaged.

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 3600 & No fTPM (07/19)
    Motherboard
    MSI B450 TOMAHAWK 7C02v1E & IFX TPM (07/19)
    Memory
    4x 8GB ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 DDR4 3200MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Radeon RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC @48FPS (08/19)
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z (11/16)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Philips 24M1N3200ZS/00 (05/24)
    Screen Resolution
    1920×1080@165Hz via DP1.4
    Hard Drives
    ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro SSD 512GB (07/19)
    PSU
    Seasonic M12II-520 80 Plus Bronze (11/16)
    Case
    Lian Li PC-7NB & 3x Noctua NF-S12A FLX@700rpm (11/16)
    Cooling
    CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12S@700rpm (07/19)
    Keyboard
    HP Wired Desktop 320K + Rabalux 76017 Parker (01/24)
    Mouse
    Logitech M330 Silent Plus (04/23)
    Internet Speed
    400/40 Mbps via RouterOS (05/21) & TCP Optimizer
    Browser
    Edge & Brave for YouTube & LibreWolf for FB
    Antivirus
    NoAV & Binisoft WFC & NextDNS
    Other Info
    Backup: Hasleo Backup Suite (PreOS)
    Notifier: Xiaomi Mi Band 7 NFC (05/24)
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170 (09/10)
    Phone: Samsung Galaxy Xcover 7 (02/24)
    2nd Monitor: AOC G2460VQ6 @75Hz (02/19)

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