Administrator can not delete some folders and files !


theoldwizard1

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I'm new to Windows 11, so maybe this is a "feature" I don't know about.

First, all PCs I "support", close to a dozen for family and friends, have the Administrator account enabled. I does not get used very often, but I like having it as a kind of backdoor.

From my many years of supporting mini-computers, workstation and servers (all non-Windows, many pre-Microsoft days) I am used to "cleaning up" after applications have been removed. I removed SignalRGB and found a bunch of "leftovers" so I logged into Administrator to delete these folders and files. I found them with File Explorer, Select, Delete key, NOTHING HAPPENS !

Select again, Right Click, Trash can, NOTHING HAPPENS !

Why ?
 

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It would probably help if you told us the paths of the "leftovers" that cannot be deleted. Someone might have the same app and can check the permissions on those folders to see if they need to be modified. Or, you can check yourself, to see if the Administrators group has permissions by default, or if you need to take ownership before deleting.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 [rev. 3447]
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Hello @theoldwizard1 and welcome to ElevenForum. :-)

There's a program called Unlockit by EMCO (free), that can "unlock" whatever is locking those files.

There's a program called REVO Uninstaller (free), that can uninstall just about anything. What's even better is that it then offers to "scan for leftovers", and allows you to delete them with one click.

In the case of REVO... you'll probably have to re-install the program you just uninstalled... then use REVO to uninstall it properly.






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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
The file/folder in question is not "lock". Administrator just does NOT have full access to it !


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    windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
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    Self built
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    AMD 8700G
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    ASRock B650I Lightning
    Memory
    2 - DDR5-6000 8GB Kinston KF560C35-8
    Graphics Card(s)
    none
    Sound Card
    none
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    SAMSUNG SyncMaster 220WM
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050
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    Samsung SSD 990 Pro 1TB
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    PicoPSU-160-XT
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    MITXPC MX500-USB3 Compact Mini-ITX Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-L9a-AM5, Chromax.Black, Low-Profile
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I'm new to Windows 11, so maybe this is a "feature" I don't know about.
Yes, many items in Windows require higher authority than an Admin account - such as System or Trusted installer authority.
That's how Windows protects itself against corruption.
It has been like this for more than a decade. And it was almost the same for over a decade before that.

have the Administrator account enabled
The Built-in Admin account has no more authority than any Admin user account that you have created yourself.
It exists for one reason & one reason only, to get enabled by Windows to appear on the Safe mode login screen if Windows cannot detect any other functional Admin accounts on the computer.
Unless you have added a password to this account, I urge you not to leave it enabled when you are online. It can be exploited.
If you want the safety net of an additional Admin user account then make one.
my ditty - Create two spare local, password-protected Admin accounts [post #2] in Windows 10, 11 - TenForums

I found them with File Explorer, Select, Delete key, NOTHING HAPPENS !
The Permissions that apply to the folders they are in tell you that Admins do not have the power to alter the contents. Only the System 'user' does.
I suggest you leave the debris alone or user a trusted utility to remove it. I've seen lots of members recommend this one - Revo Uninstaller - Paul Black post #3 - TenForums



All the best,
Denis
 
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That is correct. My permissions are the same as yours on that folder. One can always change permissons on the folder but I would advise against it as it is a system folder. Doing so can have very negative results as we have seen many times on this forum when one messes with ownership of system and trusted installer folders. Do so at your own risk.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
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    PC/Desktop
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    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
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    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Integrated Realtek
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    Firefox
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    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
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    Dell Optiplex 9020
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    i7-4770
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    24 gb
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    Benq 27
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    2560x1440
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    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
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    500w
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    MT
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    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
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    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
I am used to "cleaning up" after applications have been removed
You do not have to "cleanup" if you use one of the uninstallers that does the cleaning up for you. (I second @Try3 suggestion of Revo) The free version of Revo is very good finding most leftovers left behind. The Pro version is even better as if does extended scanning for leftover files and registry entries. The portable version can be put on a usb stick and used on multiple computers. Download Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Free and Full Download
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Microsoft Store apps are protected more than traditional apps. They're generally best left alone, but if you really want to clean up, use PowerRun to open Cmd as TrustedInstaller. Then you can add/change/delete without having to touch the permissions. With great power comes great responsibility. Be careful.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 10/11
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer

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