Almost dead laptop - won't boot into Windows, Safe mode or BIOS


Sigurd

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Elderly Toshiba Satellite Pro. Been gathering dust but decided to see if I could do anything with it.
This maybe should be in Windows 10 - I don't know what OS it has other than 10 or 11.
Trying to boot into Windows stops with error message - auto fix doesn't work.
So decided to try and boot from a Windows CD, but first need to get into BIOS.
Trying to boot into BIOS requires a password - needless to say that is lost in the dust! So how can I get past this first block?
Now I can't get past to try and boot into Windows (and the error message.

Sorry - not very helpful information. Basically I have a PC that gest as far as asking for a password and that's it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Updated Chillblast
    CPU
    Intel i7 12700K Twelve Core 3.6Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 Motherboard
    Memory
    Corsair 32Gb Vengeance RAM
What's the error message?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-build
    CPU
    Intel I3-10100
    Motherboard
    MSI H410M-PRO
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GT 1030
    Sound Card
    Motherboard default
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung EVO 970 NVMe SSD 256 Gb
    Samsung QVO 870 SATA SSD 2 Tb
    PSU
    ATX 450W
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    930 Mb down / 120 Mb up
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Microsoft Office 2021 Plus
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-build
    CPU
    Intel i3-8100
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z370 D3
    Memory
    16 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GT 720
    Sound Card
    Motherboard default
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27-inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 NVMe SSD 256 Gb
    Seagate 2 Tb HDD
    PSU
    ATX 450W
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Keyboard
    Microsoft
    Internet Speed
    930 Mb down / 120 Mb up
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Elderly Toshiba Satellite Pro. Been gathering dust but decided to see if I could do anything with it.
This maybe should be in Windows 10 - I don't know what OS it has other than 10 or 11.
Trying to boot into Windows stops with error message - auto fix doesn't work.
So decided to try and boot from a Windows CD, but first need to get into BIOS.
Trying to boot into BIOS requires a password - needless to say that is lost in the dust! So how can I get past this first block?
Now I can't get past to try and boot into Windows (and the error message.

Sorry - not very helpful information. Basically I have a PC that gest as far as asking for a password and that's it.
Hi there
try this -- should be easy enough - I've done similar on a Sony VAIO laptop.


Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
That's the problem. Since trying to access BIOS and getting the password request I now can't get anything but that.
Before that the only message I got was that it had encountered an error and gave the option to either try a repair (which failed) or close down. No error message as such.
As I said, not very helpful. My inclination is to go for a BIOS reset but not sure how to do that on a laptop. Easy enough on a PC.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Updated Chillblast
    CPU
    Intel i7 12700K Twelve Core 3.6Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 Motherboard
    Memory
    Corsair 32Gb Vengeance RAM
As I posted this, Jimbo's crossed with it. Will try that - thanks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Updated Chillblast
    CPU
    Intel i7 12700K Twelve Core 3.6Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 Motherboard
    Memory
    Corsair 32Gb Vengeance RAM

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Elderly Toshiba Satellite Pro ... I don't know what OS it has other than 10 or 11.
It won't (or at least, shouldn't) be W11. There's no way that would be a supported device for Windows 11. Should be easy enough to reset its bios password. Google for how to do it on your specific model.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
It won't (or at least, shouldn't) be W11. There's no way that would be a supported device for Windows 11. Should be easy enough to reset its bios password. Google for how to do it on your specific model.
Hi there

actually you CAN run W11 on that type of device provided you have sufficient memory,> 48GB Disk space, and it's a 64 bit computer if you run it as a VM. Change the Virtual CPU spec to something that W11 supports -- A VM can also run with an "Emulated" TPM, Secure boot and UEFI boot even on an MBR BIOS only machine. Your CPU must have a minimum of 2 cores as well. Actually runs not too bad on the Sony VAIO although there's no USB 3 hardware on that machine. (USB 2 is OK for some things). I did switch the internal laptops 2.5 inch old HDD for an SSD -- on that laptop was a simple change. undo the back and the old HDD was simple to remove and a new SSD just popped straight in. If you can't use an SSD or are stuck with the old IDE interface then don't bother !!!!.

Here on an old Sony VAIO (MBR only machine) as a VM

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TPM : ---->

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Trying to get it to run on Real hardware though is another matter if you don't have UEFI boot. It might be possible --- no idea !!!.

Cheers
jimbo
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Trying to get it to run on Real hardware though is another matter if you don't have UEFI boot. It might be possible --- no idea !!!.
Oh, it's perfectly possible. I have got it to run on three Legacy bios MBR machines so far. But the OP's one is very unlikely to have 11, not if it's been collecting dust for months/years.....
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
What OS it has is a bit academic since I can't get past the BIOS password prompt. My guess is it would be Windows 10.
I tried the methods suggested in the links Jimbo gave me with no luck. Still arrive at a screen with simply a Password prompt. I'm a bit puzzled at that as I wouldn't have set one for the BIOS - never have. I've tried a few possibilities without success.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Updated Chillblast
    CPU
    Intel i7 12700K Twelve Core 3.6Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 Motherboard
    Memory
    Corsair 32Gb Vengeance RAM
Unfortunately, on Toshiba laptops there is no easy way to reset the BIOS password. The official procedure is to open the system, remove the CMOS battery, wait one hour before replacing it.

Note: It may take less than one hour, but they suggest an hour to be on the safe side.

EDIT: There may also be a CMOS reset jumper on the motherboard, but location varies. Pulling the battery for an hour accomplishes the same thing and is easier to describe when you don't know the jumper location :-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Unfortunately, on Toshiba laptops there is no easy way to reset the BIOS password. The official procedure is to open the system, remove the CMOS battery, wait one hour before replacing it.
I'm discovering that! Unfortunately none of the access panels on the back give access to the battery (or BIOS pins). I think I would have to remove the whole back of the laptop. I've messed about with the innards of PCs often enough, as well as built them from scratch, so I am comfortable doing that, but I have never opened up a laptop. So not sure about that.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Updated Chillblast
    CPU
    Intel i7 12700K Twelve Core 3.6Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 Motherboard
    Memory
    Corsair 32Gb Vengeance RAM
I'm discovering that! Unfortunately none of the access panels on the back give access to the battery (or BIOS pins). I think I would have to remove the whole back of the laptop. I've messed about with the innards of PCs often enough, as well as built them from scratch, so I am comfortable doing that, but I have never opened up a laptop. So not sure about that.
Just run the battery down to ZERO !!! and leave computer on for a few hours after it's run out of juice or totally dead. And of course don't have it connected to the mains even on standby

Note also before doing any altering of pins / connections etc take some pics or make "old fashioned notes" !!!

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
What OS it has is a bit academic since I can't get past the BIOS password prompt. My guess is it would be Windows 10.
I tried the methods suggested in the links Jimbo gave me with no luck. Still arrive at a screen with simply a Password prompt. I'm a bit puzzled at that as I wouldn't have set one for the BIOS - never have. I've tried a few possibilities without success.
I expect there is a way to reset that. Sometimes by moving jumper on the mobo , or by trying the likely passwords. It is quite tricky to do because you have to reach round to make the connection while trying to turn it on at the front. Unless you can get another person to help.


BIOS Master Password Generator for Laptops
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
I expect there is a way to reset that. Sometimes by moving jumper on the mobo , or by trying the likely passwords. It is quite tricky to do because you have to reach round to make the connection while trying to turn it on at the front. Unless you can get another person to help.


BIOS Master Password Generator for Laptops

Hi folks.

The age of that laptop suggests to me that it would probably be running VISTA or W7 (BTW still working for free upgrades to W10 and hence to W11 from W7 !!!) -- how many years after the official announcement !!!!

Another solution is to take it to an "Old School" Computer repairer's who could reset the BIOS -- these people have all the tools to do the job.

At least where I live we still have loads of people who can do these things and aren't involved in all sorts of businesses that don't seem to do much to do anything other than benefit CEO's and their shareholders.

I regularly see youngsters who have never heard of a "Soldering Iron" and have no idea what a heatsink does or why they are used and yet they think they are experts at every thing connected with computers.

Some though do like "Lessons from Old Grandpa" !!"! so all hope is not lost. !!!

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
I couldn't agree with you more re " youngsters who have never heard of a "Soldering Iron" and have no idea what a heatsink does or why they are used and yet they think they are experts at every thing connected with computers".
As I am now in my 80s I thought it time to start passing on a lot of the electronic gear I have accumulated over the years. OK, some of it is elderly but there were a lot of transistors, ICs and other items, including radio stuff (G4DSI) which still have a use today. In my teens and twenties if offered such a box of electronic treasure I would have taken it like a shot. That's how I started.
So I offered it free to any electronic hobbyists out there.
Guess how many takers?
Anyway, back to laptop. I had seen the video Jimbo attached. I do have a local computer repair shop which is very good. I just don't like admitting defeat. And I am Scots!!
Thanks for your help.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Updated Chillblast
    CPU
    Intel i7 12700K Twelve Core 3.6Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 Motherboard
    Memory
    Corsair 32Gb Vengeance RAM
I couldn't agree with you more re " youngsters who have never heard of a "Soldering Iron" and have no idea what a heatsink does or why they are used and yet they think they are experts at every thing connected with computers".
As I am now in my 80s I thought it time to start passing on a lot of the electronic gear I have accumulated over the years. OK, some of it is elderly but there were a lot of transistors, ICs and other items, including radio stuff (G4DSI) which still have a use today. In my teens and twenties if offered such a box of electronic treasure I would have taken it like a shot. That's how I started.
So I offered it free to any electronic hobbyists out there.
Guess how many takers?
Anyway, back to laptop. I had seen the video Jimbo attached. I do have a local computer repair shop which is very good. I just don't like admitting defeat. And I am Scots!!
Thanks for your help.
Hi again !!

@Sigurd

Actually I'm not that "Young" myself -- probably not yet entitled to a Free Bus pass yet for a few years -- a few to go still ("What's a Bus ???") but have really enjoyed most of my career as an Engineer. OK not every day is a panacea but when you get something working or can work on with a decent team that gets a big project up and running there's some sort of satisfaction that I don't think a lot of modern careers can replicate.

However I'd love to be involved in projects designing say Mars space Rovers, A.I , Driverless cars / trains etc, decent "Multiverse " apps / "Hologram things"rather than 90% of what passes for jobs out there these days. I wouldn't be any good (especially post B----T in UK can't say the rest of the word as it's too political) say in the UK working in Lincolnshire picking potatoes out of the ground when a decent machine (as we have here in Iceland) would do the whole job quickly and easily.

Anyway good luck to you -- and you have a decent "Scandi" name" as well.

Cheers

jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Just run the battery down to ZERO !!! and leave computer on for a few hours after it's run out of juice or totally dead. And of course don't have it connected to the mains even on standby

Note also before doing any altering of pins / connections etc take some pics or make "old fashioned notes" !!!

Cheers
jimbo
Nope, the CMOS has a separate coin cell battery. Could you imagine losing all your CMOS setting or the time from the clock every time you ran the battery down, or swapped a battery?

Besides, in a LiIon battery, you NEVER actually run it down to nothing. What is reported as 0% is in actuality nowhere near a "true" 0%. Discharging a LiIon completely will irreversibly damage the battery.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
I couldn't agree with you more re " youngsters who have never heard of a "Soldering Iron" and have no idea what a heatsink does or why they are used and yet they think they are experts at every thing connected with computers".
As I am now in my 80s I thought it time to start passing on a lot of the electronic gear I have accumulated over the years. OK, some of it is elderly but there were a lot of transistors, ICs and other items, including radio stuff (G4DSI) which still have a use today. In my teens and twenties if offered such a box of electronic treasure I would have taken it like a shot. That's how I started.
So I offered it free to any electronic hobbyists out there.
Guess how many takers?
Anyway, back to laptop. I had seen the video Jimbo attached. I do have a local computer repair shop which is very good. I just don't like admitting defeat. And I am Scots!!
Thanks for your help.
LOL. That's how I got my start. I started my career with a deep background in electronics as an electonics "super geek". I still have my soldering irons, bins full of resistors, capacitors, transistors, etc. I just don't get too much opportunity to that stuff lately :-(
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Nope, the CMOS has a separate coin cell battery. Could you imagine losing all your CMOS setting or the time from the clock every time you ran the battery down, or swapped a battery?

Besides, in a LiIon battery, you NEVER actually run it down to nothing. What is reported as 0% is in actuality nowhere near a "true" 0%. Discharging a LiIon completely will irreversibly damage the battery.
OK then you have to remove it -- however it shouldn't be a diabolical task to do. These things do fail. Just as an aside I wonder how many youngsters have ever heard of "Ohms Law" or another simple issue -- Maximum power transfer theory when they seem to have problems when trying to connect speakers to modern computer systems.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7

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