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I firmly believe they do what they say they do.
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Actually I consider both of them to be pretty lousy and avoid them like the plague. It's just two different approaches to the same data-mining robbery.
What's all this problem with "Data mining robbery" stuff. If you have ANY contact with anybody on this planet who offers you a service e.g banks, mobile phones, Internet, utilities etc etc - these people contact credit ref agencies such as Experian etc who hold more data on individuals than even most of the security services hold on whom they consider "persons of interest". How many times do you see complaints about these companies on "Data collection" etc and passing it on to 3rd parties.

On technical grounds just decide what browser you like / use in preference to the others. Once you are on the net you've already handed out almost as much data as possible anyway. I'd keep your "data mining" aggro for those credit ref companies like experian.

Cheers
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Don't input any data. 🤷‍♂️
Good answer --!!!! perhaps neural human brain implants are the only solution -- no hacking necessary -- politicians seem to be able to turn intelligent human beings into zombies anyway. !!!

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Personally, I think you're out of your fecking mind if you let a browser save credit cards, driver's license and SSN, etc.

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Personally, I think you're out of your fecking mind if you let a browser save credit cards, driver's license and SSN, etc.
Total agreement! I'm amazed at the number who do though.
 

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What's all this problem with "Data mining robbery" stuff. If you have ANY contact with anybody on this planet who offers you a service e.g banks, mobile phones, Internet, utilities etc etc - these people contact credit ref agencies such as Experian etc who hold more data on individuals than even most of the security services hold on whom they consider "persons of interest". How many times do you see complaints about these companies on "Data collection" etc and passing it on to 3rd parties.

Because they're not paying me for it, that's why. It's as simple as that. If somebody wants my info, then pay me for it.

Why should I give out freebies to companies and services that I don't even use? After all I'm a product and people are supposed to pay for products. Right? 🧐

And in the United States, companies are considered 'people', a screwed up legal concept (that I think is unique to the world), but there ya have it.

On technical grounds just decide what browser you like / use in preference to the others.

That's right. That's what this topic is all about.

Once you are on the net you've already handed out almost as much data as possible anyway. I'd keep your "data mining" aggro for those credit ref companies like experian.

Probably. But I don't have to Ben Dover to them and hand it to them like a sheeple. If they want it bad enough, they're gonna have to come and get it.

I will put in whatever tools I can to block some of it. Like logging into a generic local Windows account, for starters. I don't need the scarlet letter of an email address following me all around everywhere. I consider it one less thing I have to give them. That's just an example.
 

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Nothing that involves entering sensitive data!
So, you mainly use your computers to provide data on the fact that you don't have any data? Same here!
 

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So, you mainly use your computers to provide data on the fact that you don't have any data? Same here!

No, I mainly use computers to talk to @hdmi and @TraderGary that's what.

And you should be so honored. 🙇🏻‍♂️ 😄
 

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Because they're not paying me for it, that's why. It's as simple as that. If somebody wants my info, then pay me for it.

Why should I give out freebies to companies and services that I don't even use? After all I'm a product and people are supposed to pay for products. Right? 🧐

And in the United States, companies are considered 'people', a screwed up legal concept (that I think is unique to the world), but there ya have it.



That's right. That's what this topic is all about.



Probably. But I don't have to Ben Dover to them and hand it to them like a sheeple. If they want it bad enough, they're gonna have to come and get it.

I will put in whatever tools I can to block some of it. Like logging into a generic local Windows account, for starters. I don't need the scarlet letter of an email address following me all around everywhere. I consider it one less thing I have to give them.
I don't think Credit ref agencies (Experian etc) pay YOU for any data they collect / steal / acquire) -- however they can make things very difficult if they make a mistake and you need something corrected.

Anyway enough on this -- if you are paranoid about this stuff then you have to stay offline, make sure you supply all your own utilities, don't use banks, only use cash via your own transactions, not via a job / employment pay etc,grow your own food, don't rent / buy a property or land etc etc etc. I'll bet if you vote in an election there's loads of data that's collected without you paying the collectors.

The idea though of getting paid for supplying data to income / other tax authorities sounds rather nice -- but "dream on" !!!.


Cheers
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So, you mainly use your computers to provide data on the fact that you don't have any data? Same here!
For the past 25 years I've been a sole proprietor working entirely from home. I have data. :cool:
 

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Of course. That's the law in the USA. Is it the same in Sweden?
Apple doesn't do it as they dont have the key. Microsoft could do the same.

I did note that in the article microsoft did state that if you do not back up the bitlocker key to the microsoft account it does prevent them from accessing it. So they do have an option there.

Total agreement! I'm amazed at the number who do though.
I store my virtual credit card which isn't my actual card number. Drivers license and ssn no. But those have been compromised to hell and back so it honestly doesn't really matter if in the usa.



Also

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Not really a law. Apple doesn't do it as they dont have the key. Microsoft could do the same.

I did note that in the article microsoft did state that if you do not back up the bitlocker key to the microsoft account it does prevent them from accessing it. So they do have an option there.
Exactly! If you don't save the key with Microsoft, it's unavailable to a court order.
 

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Exactly! If you don't save the key with Microsoft, it's unavailable to a court order.
Depends on who "controls" the courts. And I'm sure some of the various security / intelligence agencies have their ways and means by employing their own "free lancers" who crtainly aren't in the public domain.

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