AMD Stutter Experienced with fTPM Enabled on Windows 10 and 11


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Article Number: PA-410
This documentation provides information on improving intermittent performance stutter(s) on select PCs running Windows® 10 and 11 with Firmware Trusted Platform Module (“fTPM”) enabled.

Issue Description
AMD has determined that select AMD Ryzen™ system configurations may intermittently perform extended fTPM-related memory transactions in SPI flash memory (“SPIROM”) located on the motherboard, which can lead to temporary pauses in system interactivity or responsiveness until the transaction is concluded.

Update and Workaround
  • Update: Affected PCs will require a motherboard system BIOS (sBIOS) update containing enhanced modules for fTPM interaction with SPIROM. AMD expects that flashable customer sBIOS files to be available starting in early May, 2022. Exact BIOS availability timing for a specific motherboard depends on the testing and integration schedule of your manufacturer. Flashable updates for motherboards will be based on AMD AGESA 1207 (or newer).
  • Workaround: As an immediate solution, affected customers dependent on fTPM functionality for Trusted Platform Module support may instead use a hardware TPM (“dTPM”) device for trusted computing. Platform dTPM modules utilize onboard non-volatile memory (NVRAM) that supersedes the TPM/SPIROM interaction described in this article.
    1. COMPATIBILITY: Please check with your system or motherboard manufacturer to ensure that your platform supports add-in dTPM modules before attempting or implementing this workaround.
    2. WARNING: If switching an active system from fTPM to dTPM, it is critical that you disable TPM-backed encryption systems (e.g. BitLocker Drive Encryption) and/or back up vital system data prior to switching TPM devices. You must have full administrative access to the system, or explicit support from your IT administrator if the system is managed. For more information on transferring ownership to a new TPM device, please visit this Microsoft webpage.


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So, I have an AMD build. You see my full specs. So, can I safely disable fTPM? I haven't encrypted my drives as far as I know. Or should I just wait for the bios fix?
 

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So, I have an AMD build. You see my full specs. So, can I safely disable fTPM? I haven't encrypted my drives as far as I know. Or should I just wait for the bios fix?

I'm not sure if your question is directed generally but IMHO we never needed TPM and there is no overwhelming evidence that it provides any real security benefit for those of us security conscious people... so I have disabled it.. until someone convinces me otherwise.
 

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I have the fTPM enabled and do not have the issue.
 

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Same here, fTPM enabled and no sign of this problem.
 

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At least AMD has finally identified the problem. My motherboard currently supports only Agesa 1205, hopefully the update will come soon, but disabling virtualization and mitigations for Spectre and Meltdown seems to have done something.
 

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I use this bios, with TPM 2.0 enabled and I don't see the fTPM option on my Asus Prime B450M Gaming/BR, no problems so far.
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"1. Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.6b
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3. Improve system performance for AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D"
 

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There a Beta bios for my Prime B350 Plus. As I don't have any obvious problem I will wait until a non beta version appears.

Version 6026 Beta Version

2022/03/28 10.57 MBytes

PRIME B350-PLUS BIOS 6026
"1. Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.6b.

Please note that this is a beta BIOS version of the motherboard which is still undergoing final testing before its official release. The UEFI, its firmware and all content found on it are provided on an “as is” and “as available” basis. ASUS does not give any warranties, whether express or limited, as to the suitability, compatibility, or usability of the UEFI, its firmware or any of its content. Except as provided in the Product warranty and to the maximum extent permitted by law, ASUS is not responsible for direct, special, incidental or consequential damages resulting from using this beta BIOS."
 

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On my gigabyte Aorus Master X570 I do not have the option to tell the bios to differentiate between the onboard fTPM and the discreet TPM module I installed on the header. I have experienced the stutter and its pure donkey balls.
 

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    32gb G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3600
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    XFX Speedster MERC319 RX 6900 XT Black
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    Benq EX3415R
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    3440X1440
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    Samsung 970 Pro, Samsung 850 Pro, Crucial MX500, WD Black SN700, WD Black 8tb HD
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    Nvidia RTX 3060 Mobile
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I'm using the BIOS from December that has Agesa 1.2.0.5 and I do not have the problem. I'm not running the latest BIOS. Mobo is MSI B550-A Pro.
 

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    16 GB DDR4-3200
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    PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6600XT with 8GB GDDR6
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    16 GB DDR5-4800
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    Integrated Radeon 680M and discrete Radeon RX 6800S with 8GB GDDR6
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    Integrated Realtek with Dolby Atmos
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    Laptop screen 14" WQXGA, IPS, 120hz refresh rate
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    2560 X 1600
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AGESA 1.2.0.4 and 1.2.0.5 brought us this nightmare and 1.2.0.6b was supposed to start addressing some of the issues while the May release is supposed to be the fix. The stutter brings my 5950x and rx 6900 xt to their knees.
 

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    32gb G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3600
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    2021 HP Omen
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    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H
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    factory
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    16gb ddr 3200
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 3060 Mobile
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    onboard B&O
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    15.6" 144hz IPS
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    1920x1080
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    Hynix 512gb nvme ssd, WD Black SN850 2TB nvme ssd
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1.2.0.6b was supposed to start addressing some of the issues
When I tried this one, BIOS reported damaged motherboard and Windows kept BSODing. I had to revert.
 

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    4x 8GB ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 DDR4 3200MHz CL16
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    MSI Radeon RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC (08/19)
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    24" AOC G2460VQ6 (01/19)
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On my gigabyte Aorus Master X570 I do not have the option to tell the bios to differentiate between the onboard fTPM and the discreet TPM module I installed on the header. I have experienced the stutter and its pure donkey balls.
Try removing the discrete module and enable fTPM. Things may improve. My Gigabyte boards also support discrete modules. but I don't use them since fTPM works without issues... and not needing another piece of hardware added to the board.

Add that I'm on an Intel system so...
 

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    Intel i9-9900K
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    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
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    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
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    Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga X1
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    Intel i7-7600U
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    Intel
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    16igg
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HRPuffnstuff

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It was the fTPM that started my problem in the first place which is why I purchased the discreet header module in an attempt to circumvent it. From what I've seen only Asus boards bios allow the user to distinguish between the fTPM and dTPM modules in the settings. If the post office hadn't destroyed my Asus x570 board in shipping I'd never have purchased this gigabyte in the first place and I have no intention of sinking any more money into am4.
 

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Ghot

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I use this bios, with TPM 2.0 enabled and I don't see the fTPM option on my Asus Prime B450M Gaming/BR, no problems so far.
Windows 11 22.000.613
Versão 3604
2022/03/16 10.64 MBytes
PRIME B450M-GAMING/BR BIOS 3604
"1. Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.6b
2. Improve system performance and stability
3. Improve system performance for AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D"


If you have it... AMD fTPM should be on the Advanced tab in the BIOS, up at the top.
For example...

210624215945.jpg
 

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obelix

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When you install with TPM in windows bios when you remove TPM windows will not boot because it stores in windows whether there are or not so you have to reinstall windows.
 

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Dru2

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It was the fTPM that started my problem in the first place which is why I purchased the discreet header module in an attempt to circumvent it. From what I've seen only Asus boards bios allow the user to distinguish between the fTPM and dTPM modules in the settings. If the post office hadn't destroyed my Asus x570 board in shipping I'd never have purchased this gigabyte in the first place and I have no intention of sinking any more money into am4.

Board vendor has nothing to do with what I posted. I was simply talking about removing the discrete module to help mitigate your issue as It wasn't made clear it was fTPM you were talking about. I mentioned "Gigabyte" as those are the boards I use, and like Asus, they also support discrete TPM modules.

As I said, I don't use a discrete module and personally see no need for one. YMMV.

Good luck.
 

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Alex__ASSR

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If you have it... AMD fTPM should be on the Advanced tab in the BIOS, up at the top.
For example...

View attachment 27385

I have "Enable Firmware TPM" on bios.

command: tpmtool getdeviceinformation
Administrador_Windows_PowerShell 21_04_2022 12_46_59 00504.png
Translated

-Present TPM: True
-TPM version: 2.0
-TPM Manufacturer ID: AMD
-TPM Manufacturer's Full Name: AMD
-TPM Manufacturer Version: 3.45.0.4
-PPI version: 1.3
-Is Initialized: True
-Storage Ready: True
-Ready for Attestation: True
-Has Attestation Capability: True
-Need to clear to recover: False
-Cleaning Possible: True
-TPM has a vulnerable firmware: False
-PCR7 Membership Status: 2
-Maintenance Task Completed: True
-TPM Specification Version: 1.38
-TPM Errata Date: Friday, March 02, 2018
-Computer Client Version: 1.01
-Lock information:
-Is locked: False
-Block counter: 0
-Maximum authentication failed: 32
-Lock interval: 7200s
-Lock recovery: 86400s
 

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gabagoo

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install windows 11 using the rufus compatibility patch.
 

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    RYZEN 900000000
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    ASUS SUPER HYPER MEGA
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    A LOT
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    LIKE 5
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    I DON'T NEED ONE. I CAN HEAR JUST FINE.
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gabagoo

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It was the fTPM that started my problem in the first place which is why I purchased the discreet header module in an attempt to circumvent it. From what I've seen only Asus boards bios allow the user to distinguish between the fTPM and dTPM modules in the settings. If the post office hadn't destroyed my Asus x570 board in shipping I'd never have purchased this gigabyte in the first place and I have no intention of sinking any more money into am4.
install window 11 using rufus and disable FTPM.
 

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    COSTCO
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    RYZEN 900000000
    Motherboard
    ASUS SUPER HYPER MEGA
    Memory
    A LOT
    Graphics Card(s)
    LIKE 5
    Sound Card
    I DON'T NEED ONE. I CAN HEAR JUST FINE.
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    720X480 HD
    Hard Drives
    2
    PSU
    10000W
    Case
    JUST IN,
    Cooling
    ALWAYS
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    PIANO
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    MICKEY
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    FAST
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    NO. IT'S BOWSER.
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    NO INTERNET
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    CHEESE IS REALLY GOOD.
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