ASUS motherboards Ready for Windows 11

unifex · Aug 11, 2021

Seeing again a discussion of boot speeds, could anyone finally explain to me why is it so important to anybody? What kind of slowing down are we talking about here? From 5 seconds to 10 seconds, or from 30 seconds to 3 minutes?

BunnyJ · Aug 11, 2021

unifex said:
Seeing again a discussion of boot speeds, could anyone finally explain to me why is it so important to anybody? What kind of slowing down are we talking about here? From 5 seconds to 10 seconds, or from 30 seconds to 3 minutes?

I doubt that enabling TPM 2/Secure boot will slow the boot time of any PC. People just don't want to use TPM 2 and this is one more reason not to.

unifex · Aug 11, 2021

I did turn on (PTT is it?) this setting in my BIOS prior to installing 11 and did not notice any slowdown. I don't think I am actually using TPM either.

BunnyJ · Aug 11, 2021

unifex said:
I did turn on (PTT is it?) this setting in my BIOS prior to installing 11 and did not notice any slowdown. I don't think I am actually using TPM either.

Something like that... Asus/AMD calls it fPtm but it varies. All I know is when I turned it on... there was no difference in the boot time.

Cliff S · Aug 12, 2021

Maximus X Hero got it's BIOS update today on it's support page, but the microsite list hasn't been updated yet.
ROG MAXIMUS X HERO BIOS 2701
1. Support WIN 11 installed or upgraded

This is the first BIOS update I will skip, as I already had TPM(PCH-FW) turned on, and CSM turned off, Secure Boot turned on, and all those good things, been using them since Windows 8

jh30uk · Aug 12, 2021

Cliff S said:
by the way, most of these "new" BIOS are only setting win11 requirements as default, even on chipsets Microsoft has not OK'd, so if you already have UEFI, Windows 10 boot, and PTT turned on, and no other new things added, for "system stability"(usually an update to RAM XMP settings), there is no need to update the BIOS and have to go through the rig-a-marole of resetting up everything else in the BIOS(something I really hate, even though I have a text file copy of all my OC settings).

Since when did updating the Bios loose your settings?

They are saved to Profile slots and will still be there even if you reset the bios via little button on rear, added to most people who OC will have backed them up to a USB drive.

Cliff S · Aug 12, 2021

Settings from previous versions have never been able to be carried over on ASUS and MSI boards for years now, at least on OC capable boards, because some times a new update gets changes to RAM secondary and tertiary timings in XMP, voltage curve(VID) and so on, that can cause stability issues.
And changes in versions that have new added stuff like resizable bar, that is not on older versions would not be compatible when loading a saved profile that doesn't have the setting.
Or the latest turning on TMP, would just turn it off, when your profile had it turned off.

There are just so many factors that can not be compensated for, as the profile saves a new "version" of the complete BIOS and not just the changes.

PerpetualCycle · Aug 12, 2021

jh30uk said:
Since when did updating the Bios loose your settings?

They are saved to Profile slots and will still be there even if you reset the bios via little button on rear, added to most people who OC will have backed them up to a USB drive.

Since forever? Sure, if you just reset your BIOS or clear CMOS. But if you update the BIOS to a new version, you loose all your settings and have to manually reenter them.

PerpetualCycle · Aug 12, 2021

Cliff S said:
Settings from previous versions have never been able to be carried over on ASUS and MSI boards for years now, at least on OC capable boards, because some times a new update gets changes to RAM secondary and tertiary timings in XMP, voltage curve(VID) and so on, that can cause stability issues.
And changes in versions that have new added stuff like resizable bar, that is not on older versions would not be compatible when loading a saved profile that doesn't have the setting.
Or the latest turning on TMP, would just turn it off, when your profile had it turned off.

There are just so many factors that can not be compensated for, as the profile saves a new "version" of the complete BIOS and not just the changes

Or Gigabyte.

jh30uk · Aug 12, 2021

geneo said:
Since forever? Sure, if you just reset your BIOS or clear CMOS. But if you update the BIOS to a new version, you loose all your settings and have to manually reenter them.

Not on my Mobo and its from 2013 (ASUS ROG Z87) and even then if they did go missing and I had no backup they can be copied over from Bios 2.

SmokeMe · Aug 14, 2021

I have a ASUS Z170 MB w/ the TPM connector open so I acquired a ASUS TPM 2.0 module & plugged it in, defaulted & did a BIOS update & after a few restarts noticed my boot manager was not available so I tweaked the BIOS back to my previous choices & all is good again.
Restarts were a bit slower but it has picked a little speed too.
hare are the results from the TPM.MSC check in Win10.

Rahulji · Aug 15, 2021

My ASUS B450-Plus is not there... Hmm. My PC is 1 a half years old.

BunnyJ · Aug 15, 2021

I found this..it's for AMD processors with that motherboard. It's supported

Rahulji · Aug 15, 2021

BunnyJ said:
I found this..it's for AMD processors with that motherboard. It's supported
View attachment 5606

URL please? I found some new BIOS on ASUS but not this. thx

BunnyJ · Aug 15, 2021

Rahulji said:
URL please? I found some new BIOS on ASUS but not this. thx

ASUS Motherboards Ready for Windows 11

ASUS motherboards are Windows 11 ready with great compatibility. Users can ensure having TPM 2.0 support for Windows 11 through latest BIOS update or manual activation.

www.asus.com

badrobot · Aug 15, 2021

Steve C said:
I'm waiting to see the new X570S motherboards from Asus soon to be released which do not have a chipset fan.

I don't think it matters with fan or w/o fan because you will be hearing the case or CPU cooler fan most of the time. The mobo fan is too small to make an audible sound and it rarely spins.

Steve C · Aug 16, 2021

badrobot said:
I don't think it matters with fan or w/o fan because you will be hearing the case or CPU cooler fan most of the time. The mobo fan is too small to make an audible sound and it rarely spins.

Perhaps the chipset fan doesn't matter too much but I'd rathe have the more up to date board without a fan. I use a large slow spinning Noctua CPU fan and quiet case fans.

Dru2 · Aug 16, 2021

jh30uk said:
Since when did updating the Bios loose your settings?

Not sure what BIOS updates you've done, but anytime you do a BIOS update things get reset. This is also why there's "Load Optimized Defaults" switch in the BIOS as well.

That also means if you have customized BIOS settings as most system builders and overclockers do, yeah updating a BIOS will result in one needing to reinput their customized values.

But yes, saving a profile can make reapplying your custom settings a breeze, but not everyone saves profiles (I do). Also, some updates, delete, revamp the BIOS. Example: My Gigabyte Z390 board had a BIOS update that did a "BIOS structure refresh" which completely changed the BIOS layout and added some stuff.

Anyway Gigabyte has not (at least for my boards) released any "Windows 11" BIOS' their boards already have firmware TPM (though disabled by default so one would need to enable it)