Solved AUDIRVĀNA (and other audio related chitchat)

Edwin · May 22, 2022

I guess we'll call it a wrap seein as nobody else has tried Aww-Dear-Vana!

badrobot · May 22, 2022

I think, to fully get the benefit of software like this, it has to begin with state of the art speaker setup. Otherwise, it will just sound the same.

Dru2 · May 22, 2022

badrobot said:
I think, to fully get the benefit of software like this, it has to begin with state of the art speaker setup. Otherwise, it will just sound the same.

Not clear on what you mean by "state of art", but I did list equipment used when discussing said app. Also discussed the music used

badrobot · May 22, 2022

Dru2 said:
Not clear on what you mean by "state of art", but I did list equipment used when discussing said app. Also discussed the music used

Hello. My comment is not directed at you. I am giving my opinion in general.

Dru2 · May 22, 2022

badrobot said:
Hello. My comment is not directed to you. I am giving my opinion in general.

The thought never even crossed my mind, I was simply replying to the comment. And if anything, I thought the post was directed at Edwin as the OP of the thread :)

All good, and you make a valid point. No offense taken

:)

Ghot · May 22, 2022

For the win !!

Total install size... 20MB. Yes... MB. 12MB + 8MB.
Times they've tried to access the internet = 0
Useless junk included = 0
Things they can do =

Total cost = 2 clicks

Add in VLC Media Player and Audacity, and you can do...anything.

Add Paint Shop Pro 7.04 and XnView, and...

Foobar2000
AnyBurn
VLC Media Player
Audacity
Paint Shop Pros
XnView Classic

badrobot · May 22, 2022

Dru2 said:
The thought never even crossed my mind, I was simply replying to the comment. And if anything, I thought the post was directed at Edwin as the OP of the thread :)

All good, and you make a valid point. No offense taken :)

No worries. I was just making sure we are on the same page. Nothing against you too.

Edwin · May 22, 2022

badrobot said:
I think, to fully get the benefit of software like this, it has to begin with state of the art speaker setup. Otherwise, it will just sound the same.

To a certain degree, yes..., but, my old Logitech Z625's never sounded better behind the DragonFly and some lossless files!

Edwin · May 22, 2022

Ghot said:
Foobar2000
AnyBurn
VLC Media Player
Audacity
Paint Shop Pros
XnView Classic

My life is complete!!!

Dru2 · May 22, 2022

Edwin said:
To a certain degree, yes..., but, my old Logitech Z625's never sounded better behind the DragonFly and some lossless files!

If you ever get a chance to try something like what I have, you'll be even more impressed

With mine, you can up-sample files direct from the DAC. It also has audio out, so I run my powers speakers off it, but it can also be connected to an amp. It also accepts multiple inputs - USB, Analog, and Digital - cable and SPDIF. You select the input through a nob on the front panel, or the included remote. It also has a filter selector to allow for tweaking the digital signal. Additionally, the DAC houses a built-in headphone amp that supports balanced, unbalanced, and active drive. Everything can also be selected via the remote as well.

This video tells you what the DAC can do - Bear in mind this is a Teac rep, so... but he does cover what the DAC can do....

You've seen my DAC here, but this is the backside. BTW the unit measures about 11.5" W x 3.5" H x 10" D. So small compared to a standard sized rack mount unit.

All that said, this was $1,000 dollar DAC (though I paid $885 new). It was never my intention to pay that much for a DAC to connect to my PC, but seeing what it did, plus having a built-in headphone amp, which I was also looking for, the price was perfect. Six years later its still perfect :)

It's now discontinued, but there was the UD-505 and now the very expensive ($1850) UD-505-X.

Edwin · May 22, 2022

Dru2 said:
If you ever get a chance to try something like what I have, you'll be even more impressed...

Funny you mentioned this...,
I asked my buddy at the Store if I could try his Cambridge DacMagic 200M...,
... he said, "You don't need it, all you need is the DragonFly"

In other words... "Get lost!!!"

Can't say I didn't try though!

Edwin · May 22, 2022

One thing I did do though:
Got my Sub up off the floor onto a padded bench, rear-fired it into a corner, (also, so the controls are facing me)...,
... really evens up the sound/dynamics..., on the floor was just too much!

Dru2 · May 22, 2022

Edwin said:
Funny you mentioned this...,
I asked my buddy at the Store if I could try his Cambridge DacMagic 200M...,
... he said, "You don't need it, all you need is the DragonFly"

In other words... "Get lost!!!"

Can't say I didn't try though!

Like everything else it always depends on needs and features. If you're happy with the Dragonfly that's all that matters.

Anyway, my post is also for others who may be more interested in something other than a basic DAC (a good one, but still a basic one).

And, I can't speak on your store buddy's feeling or why he said what he said as he knows you far better than I do :)

Ghot · May 22, 2022

Well this was my gear back around 1979-ish. I also had a direct drive turntable, and a Nakamichi cassette dubbing deck, which I can't find pics of. But I could find pics of these. I think I was 20-21 at the time.

The amp was 0 to 200KHz, and the woofer on those speakers was 16", and could blow out candles.
When cranked up, you could hear this thing, clearly, 1/2 mile away.

Ah... those were the days.
I was stationed in Spain when I bought this gear.
I could get it at half price through the military... there was no way I could afford it otherwise.

Edwin · May 22, 2022

Ghot said:
... the woofer on those speakers was 16", and could blow out candles...

I had a pair of Sansui speakers almost identical to those!

Ghot · May 22, 2022

Edwin said:
I had a pair of Sansui speakers almost identical to those!

Yep. You had to seriously do your research in those days. Everyone was stealing everyone else's designs.
And they didn't have all the laws concerning truth in advertising, that we do today.

I still remember the first time I played the demo cassette that came with the Nakamichi tape deck.
Part of it had an oboe solo. On certain notes, you could hear the reed... flutter. It was awesome.

After Spain, I got stationed for three years in California. And the C.O. (that hated me), sent a memo to me,
asking that I provide the music for the 4th of July celebration. There was 170 people and their families
stationed there. It was quite the honor.

I had to make a chainlink cage to protect the gear from frisbees, footballs, drunk people, etc.

All I brought out was the receiver/amp, speakers and reel to reel.
Those 10" reels held 6 hours of music to a side, 12 hours total.

I used to buy albums, and only record the "good songs" off each one, then sell the albums to others in the barracks.
It was a good deal for me and them. I got the best songs off the album and they got albums only played once for a discount.

[Music shifts to a minor key] And then came the bad times.
The orders for pee-tests, throughout the military, middle of 1982.
So... I got out in Feb. 1982.

Edwin · May 22, 2022

I was going to go down to the basement a take a snapshot of my rotting, molding, NAD Monitor Series stack but I'd probably start weeping!!!

Ghot · May 22, 2022

Edwin said:
I was going to go down to the basement a take a snapshot of my rotting, molding, NAD Monitor Series stack but I'd probably start weeping!!!

I'm sure it's.... awesome.

Edwin · May 22, 2022

Ghot said:
I'm sure it's.... awesome. :)

I'm afraid to look! :nope:

Dru2 · May 22, 2022

Edwin said:
I was going to go down to the basement a take a snapshot of my rotting, molding, NAD Monitor Series stack but I'd probably start weeping!!!

I had a pair of floor standing Allison Acoustics that rotted away from lack of play. Dumped them and stowed away my home equipment. Just use my PC for music now. Plus, I can stream to my Bose soundbar in the living room :)

Anyway for my music discussions I've been posting over at stevehoffman.tv and hifivision.com.

There's a pretty good thread at hifivision called - Objectivity vs Subjectivity. And one at stevehoffman - Hi-fi execs know that massive change is coming. hifivision.com is an Indian (based in India) site, but plenty of "Yankees" there :)