Backup - OneDrive Issues


How does one learn how to use OneDrive properly?

I have my "real" documents at D:\Documents. All I want to do is have a copy of my documents in OneDrive and sync the two so I can access them from anywhere. After unlinking and re syncing One Drive I now have my "real" documents at D:\Documents plus files at D:\Documents\OneDrive, and in OneDrive. I thought I understood how OneDrive worked, but now I don't seem to have a clue how it works. I've managed to get myself very confused and very frustrated.

I'm open to any and all suggestions on how to use and understand OneDrive.
Here's one of the best videos I know of on the very basics of OneDrive. Leo does an excellent job of explaining how it works.

 

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Dell XPS 15 9510 OLED
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    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Microsoft Surface Pro 7
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    i5
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    8 GB
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    256GB SSD
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    900 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
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    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
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    Microsoft 365 subscription (Office)
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    CoPilot
    BitLocker
Many people (Home users) don't want the additional cost unless it's vital to access all your stuff anywhere you might be. It won't take long to eat through your 'free storage allowance', and then you start to pay. I have external drives and perform imaging of my PC regularly, this gives you protection from Malware attacks and data loss through other causes. 'Imaging Backup' Maryjo, is also super useful if ever your PC starts misbehaving, you can revert the system back to where it was before you had the issue. This can be a great help in diagnosing the problem.

If you really must have Onedrive, then take your time and read the advice and "how to's" on this site, there is loads of it concerning Onedrive, you love it or hate I guess.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP EliteOne 800 G4 23.8-inch Touch Screen AIO
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integral with Motherboard
    Sound Card
    Integral with Motherboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23.8-inch Touch Screen & 27inch HP FHD
    Screen Resolution
    FHD
    Keyboard
    Logitech K650 White
    Mouse
    Logitech K650 'L' White
    Antivirus
    Trend Micro Maximum Security
Many people (Home users) don't want the additional cost unless it's vital to access all your stuff anywhere you might be. It won't take long to eat through your 'free storage allowance', and then you start to pay. I have external drives and perform imaging of my PC regularly, this gives you protection from Malware attacks and data loss through other causes.
In addition to files accessible from multiple machines, phones, tablets, or web browsers....it's also that it's a second copy, always up to date in real time.

I also make images and such to external drives at home so that I can completely recover the machine in the event of drive failure/malware/corruption. However, this requires me to have drives, it also requires action on my part to get a backup utility and then use it regularly enough to ensure its up to date enough with my rate of change on my computer. And finally, ideally this backup drive is kept offsite so that something like a house fire doesn't wipe out my source and my backups at the same time. (my sisters house burned down...so I'm pretty sensitive to this possibility).
If you really must have Onedrive, then take your time and read the advice and "how to's" on this site, there is loads of it concerning Onedrive, you love it or hate I guess.
It really does seem to be an either or...there aren't many people who feel they can either take it or leave it. I've never really found it difficult to use, but I've never really ran it in it's default configs or used the standard Libraries paths for data on my computer.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
And finally, ideally this backup drive is kept offsite so that something like a house fire doesn't wipe out my source and my backups at the same time. (my sisters house burned down...so I'm pretty sensitive to this possibility).

It really does seem to be an either or...there aren't many people who feel they can either take it or leave it. I've never really found it difficult to use, but I've never really ran it in it's default configs or used the standard Libraries paths for data on my computer.
Yes, you have to Backup as a regular process and are often reminded about this in PC mags. But I'm talking about general home users, it's major trauma to have a housefire, but worrying about whether your data may or may not have been destroyed... :think: Really, I would have more pressing things to worry about, to be honest. Most 'run of the mill' families with young kids around, perhaps don't do Backups at all :-) Personally, I found Onedrive something I do not need or want, that's just me. I certainly don't want to increase the wealth of Microsoft by paying subs for it. But just getting back to Onedrive as a user feature. For general home computing if a piece of software, any software is causing users issues regarding its functionality and/or lack of intuitive operation, and going by the number of people asking for help, Onedrive is a tad guilty of that, then I blame Microsoft. The majority of Home users and businesses too, are not experts in 'Operating System Software' whatever its destination. We all use a computer as a tool and have some basic general understanding of how to use it, some more than others. I feel some members on occasion can be a little unkind at times to others who just can't "get their head around something". We all need help with something sometimes. Anyway, that's all I have to say about Onedrive :winkt: as I may be boring others on here who love it, Microsoft too and Mr. Gates for marketing Windows:star:
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP EliteOne 800 G4 23.8-inch Touch Screen AIO
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integral with Motherboard
    Sound Card
    Integral with Motherboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23.8-inch Touch Screen & 27inch HP FHD
    Screen Resolution
    FHD
    Keyboard
    Logitech K650 White
    Mouse
    Logitech K650 'L' White
    Antivirus
    Trend Micro Maximum Security
Yes, you have to Backup as a regular process and are often reminded about this in PC mags. But I'm talking about general home users, it's major trauma to have a housefire, but worrying about whether your data may or may not have been destroyed... :think: Really, I would have more pressing things to worry about, to be honest.
Yes, your life is #1. But people are very sad when they lose all of their pictures/videos and other data they store at home.
For general home computing if a piece of software, any software is causing users issues regarding its functionality and/or lack of intuitive operation, and going by the number of people asking for help, Onedrive is a tad guilty of that, then I blame Microsoft.
It's usually from the people who firmly believe "cloud=bad". They jump through hoops to try to remove it and it ends up causing them problems.

Honestly, I think it's great for an average joe who doesn't know much about their computer that in the event that their computer is lost, damaged or stolen that when they log back in on a new machine that their stuff is simply just there again. No effort on their part to backup or recover, it just happened.

I do realize it's not for everyone, but i try to find the positives rather than hunting for the negatives.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
For me I think the changes to OneDrive should be the following:

Default to OFF the Files On Demand option.

Keep everything local and on the cloud. Mirror. An actual backup.

The one drive folder being only a way to view what's on OneDrive. Instead of moving your documents to it and messing with locations.


I think that would make it less confusing for people
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell G15 5525
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 6800H
    Memory
    32 GB DDR5 4800mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3050 Mobile 4GB Vram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Screen Resolution
    Internal laptop screen: 1920 x 1080 @ 120hz
    Hard Drives
    2TB Solidigm™ P41 Plus nvme
    Internet Speed
    800mbps down, 20 up
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ideapad flex 14API 2 in 1
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 3500u
    Motherboard
    LENOVO LNVNB161216 (FP5)
    Memory
    12GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics
    Hard Drives
    256 GB Samsung ssd nvme
For me I think the changes to OneDrive should be the following:

Default to OFF the Files On Demand option.

Keep everything local and on the cloud. Mirror. An actual backup.

The one drive folder being only a way to view what's on OneDrive. Instead of moving your documents to it and messing with locations.


I think that would make it less confusing for people
I would agree with this ^^^^. I've always used OneDrive as a real-time mirror.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9510 OLED
    CPU
    11th Gen i9 -11900H
    Memory
    32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3050Ti
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    16:10 Aspect Ratio (3456 x 2160)
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    2 Thunderbolt™ 4 (USB Type-C™)
    1 USB 3.2 Gen 2 (USB Type-C™)
    SD Card Reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
    Internet Speed
    900 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Macrium Reflect
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    LastPass Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    CoPilot
    BitLocker
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Pro 7
    CPU
    i5
    Memory
    8 GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD
    Internet Speed
    900 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription (Office)
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Amazon Kindle
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    CoPilot
    BitLocker
I would agree with this ^^^^. I've always used OneDrive as a real-time mirror.
I also realized this would also avoid the issue of if you have more than the 5GB or 15GB of what's included in the free storage, than your files don't get separated into 2 places screwing everything up. Your files stay exactly where they were and only backed up what was available for the free plan. This way they could still offer the extended storage for $ with a pop-up, but none of your files get touched. Which is how it should be. Because when someone has data over the free plan of storage offered it becomes cumbersome very quickly.

I really think that's the biggest issue with OneDrive
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell G15 5525
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 6800H
    Memory
    32 GB DDR5 4800mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3050 Mobile 4GB Vram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Screen Resolution
    Internal laptop screen: 1920 x 1080 @ 120hz
    Hard Drives
    2TB Solidigm™ P41 Plus nvme
    Internet Speed
    800mbps down, 20 up
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ideapad flex 14API 2 in 1
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 3500u
    Motherboard
    LENOVO LNVNB161216 (FP5)
    Memory
    12GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics
    Hard Drives
    256 GB Samsung ssd nvme
Here's one of the best videos I know of on the very basics of OneDrive. Leo does an excellent job of explaining how it works.

Thank you TraderGary. I found another one by Leo that goes in depth of using OneDrive backup. I've spent days trying to figure out what I was doing wrong. In less than 30 minutes watching this video I discovered that I did nothing wrong, my PC when new was setup to backup OneDrive. Again, thank you!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell

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