Boot Menu doesn't show up and so cannot choose Macrium Reflect Recovery environment.

HuntyFtw · Jan 4, 2023

Basically this issue: The option "Macrium Reflect System Recovery" does not appear after starting the computer.
Is there any alternative solution to what jphughan proposed? If not, I'll follow that. It was working fine until 22H2 dropped. Rebuilding RE using RMBuilder doesn't fix it. MSConfig shows both the options there as well.

Bastet · Jan 4, 2023

I take it you’ve added Macrium boot options to Windows boot manager? If yes then please follow jphughan’s post on the subject.

I use their USB boot medis which is easier for me.

glasskuter · Jan 4, 2023

I am with Bastet, I boot to my Macrium rescue media using the f12 boot menu. It gives me the option to choose my recovery media usb drive to boot from.
This boot menu can be accessed using whichever key your manufacturer has assigned to reach this boot menu. (F key, del, esc)

Berton · Jan 4, 2023

glasskuter said:
I am with Bastet, I boot to my Macrium rescue media using the f12 boot menu. It gives me the option to choose my recovery media usb drive to boot from.
This boot menu can be accessed using whichever key your manufacturer has assigned to reach this boot menu. (F key, del, esc)

Agreed. The Boot choices don't usually automatically show, sometimes only when there's issues with the BIOS such as a bad CMOS battery, no drive identified, memory faults, etc. Pressing F12 usually gives the menu of bootable devices but older computers may be different in how to get the display of those choices.

Bree · Jan 4, 2023

HuntyFtw said:
Is there any alternative solution to what jphughan proposed? If not, I'll follow that. It was working fine until 22H2 dropped. Rebuilding RE using RMBuilder doesn't fix it. MSConfig shows both the options there as well.

That's odd. I get both boot options on all my machines after the 22H2 upgrade with bootmenupolicy still set as Standard.
Check that your msconfig General tab is set the same as mine.

cereberus · Jan 4, 2023

Sometimes you get a graphics driver issue which does not show the graphics boot menu properly. Try changing the boot menu to the older Windows 7 style text menu interface. Run following from admin prompt.

Code:

bcdedit /set "{current}" bootmenupolicy legacy

To revert back to graphics menu

Code:

bcdedit /set "{current}" bootmenupolicy standard

If it works in legacy text mode but not graphics mode, it is probably a graphics driver issue.

fixer · Jan 4, 2023

I'm using Windows PE11 build 22000 boot menu in the same Win 11 22H2 build as yourself and it is working fine. Try removing and rebuilding the Reflect boot menu.

HuntyFtw · Jan 5, 2023

fixer said:
I'm using Windows PE11 build 22000 boot menu in the same Win 11 22H2 build as yourself and it is working fine. Try removing and rebuilding the Reflect boot menu.

Have already tried that but didn't help.

HuntyFtw · Jan 5, 2023

Bastet said:
I take it you’ve added Macrium boot options to Windows boot manager? If yes then please follow jphughan’s post on the subject.

I use their USB boot medis which is easier for me.

Ok. Thanks for the help.

HuntyFtw · Jan 5, 2023

glasskuter said:
I am with Bastet, I boot to my Macrium rescue media using the f12 boot menu. It gives me the option to choose my recovery media usb drive to boot from.
This boot menu can be accessed using whichever key your manufacturer has assigned to reach this boot menu. (F key, del, esc)

If I choose to not have boot menu option while still having Macrium RE present, can I access it via F12?

HuntyFtw · Jan 5, 2023

Bree said:
That's odd. I get both boot options on all my machines after the 22H2 upgrade with bootmenupolicy still set as Standard.
Check that your msconfig General tab is set the same as mine.

View attachment 49102

Used to work well with normal startup for me before.

glasskuter · Jan 5, 2023

HuntyFtw said:
not have boot menu option while still having Macrium RE present, can I access it via F12

Only if you have usb enabled as a boot option in bios. All bios are different so I can not give exact directions. You can go to Acer and enter your serial number. User manuals are available for download. They give you step by step instructions for working in the bios for your exact system.

Macrium is not set to appear in my boot menu. If I have my recovery media usb drive plugged in and use my f12 boot menu, the drive will appear as a bootable option. Can't remember exactly what it says but under "UEFI boot" I believe it's something like USB-ESD, but yours may be different. Before you will see the f12 boot menu, it has to be turned on in bios. By default it is turned off. This was on the Acer forum.

To enable the F12 Boot Menu:

Restart the computer.
Press the F2 key to enter computer's BIOS Setup during Power-On Self-Test, or POST, process while the Acer logo is being displayed.
Press the Right Arrow key to select Main
Select F12 Boot Menu
Press the Enter key
Select Enabled
Press the Enter key
Press the F10 key and then press the Enter key to save the changes and restart the computer.

Note: Not all Acer notebooks or netbooks have the F12 Boot Menu feature. Computers that do not have the F12 Boot Menu feature will not be able to enable the feature within the BIOS.

fixer · Jan 5, 2023

Check the timeout settings on the msconfig boot tab. Give it 10 secs at least.

SIW2 · Jan 5, 2023

HuntyFtw said:
If I choose to not have boot menu option while still having Macrium RE present, can I access it via F12?

Ther are many ways to access a bootable wim .

One way is to rename macrium boot.wim to winre.wim

then use it to replace the original winre.wim in your recovery\winre folder

another way is to add your own bcd entry pointing at the macrium boot.wim and sdi file using a scankey code

NavyLCDR · Jan 5, 2023

The first thing to do is to see if there is an entry for Macrium in the BCD.

In a command prompt with admin privileges run:
bcdedit

Please copy and paste the results here.

SIW2 · Jan 5, 2023

Code:

@echo off
bcdedit -enum -v >bcdinfo.txt
echo.
echo OSGUID                                    Description >bcd2.txt
echo.
for /f "tokens=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 delims= " %%i in (bcdinfo.txt) do (
IF /I "%%i"=="Identifier" set /p=%%j<nul >>bcd2.txt
IF /I "%%i"=="description" echo     %%j %%k %%l %%m %%n %%o>>bcd2.txt
)
notepad bcd2.txt
pause

cereberus · Jan 5, 2023

Have you tried changing to a legacy boot menu yet?

HuntyFtw · Jan 6, 2023

NavyLCDR said:
The first thing to do is to see if there is an entry for Macrium in the BCD.

In a command prompt with admin privileges run:
bcdedit

Please copy and paste the results here.

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {0a033216-3cbc-11ed-aa7a-f47b096f242c}
displayorder {current}
{e75c4c71-891f-11ed-ab1e-00155dc97da9}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 11

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \WINDOWS\system32\winload.efi
description Windows 11
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {0a033219-3cbc-11ed-aa7a-f47b096f242c}
displaymessageoverride Recovery
recoveryenabled Yes
isolatedcontext Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \WINDOWS
resumeobject {0a033216-3cbc-11ed-aa7a-f47b096f242c}
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard
hypervisorlaunchtype Auto

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {e75c4c71-891f-11ed-ab1e-00155dc97da9}
device ramdisk=[C:]\boot\macrium\WinREFiles\media\sources\boot.wim,{ramdiskoptions}
path \windows\system32\boot\winload.efi
description Macrium Reflect System Recovery
osdevice ramdisk=[C:]\boot\macrium\WinREFiles\media\sources\boot.wim,{ramdiskoptions}
systemroot \Windows
nx OptIn
detecthal Yes
winpe Yes

HuntyFtw · Jan 6, 2023

cereberus said:
Have you tried changing to a legacy boot menu yet?

Legacy one works fine. I want the modern one to work though.

cereberus · Jan 6, 2023

HuntyFtw said:
Legacy one works fine. I want the modern one to work though.

Then you have a graphics driver issue not a bcd issue.

You may need to inject graphics driver into macrium boot.wim file.

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