Solved Classic Outlook gets an official ‘death date’


they're releasing the ability to allow reading PST files. why only a half-measure... nobody knows (but its not a surprise with Microsoft)
It is a phased introduction of pst files. See first link in my post above.

Quote from the MS Roadmap page.
Outlook: First phase of PST support in new Outlook for Windows
The first phase PST (a.k.a. Outlook Data File) support in the new Outlook for Windows provides read-only access to Mail items within *.pst files. Users will be able to open *.pst files, read their emails within *.pst files, and search *.pst files for emails. All Calendar, Contacts, and Tasks data saved in the *.pst files are still there, but they cannot be accessed in this preview. Next releases will expand PST support capabilities.
 

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It is a phased introduction of pst files. See first link in my post above.

Quote from the MS Roadmap page.
yeah, i'm tracking. but i'll believe it when i see it. Microsoft changes their minds more than a 16yo girl picking out a prom dress.
 

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I checked the notifications in my M365 Business subscription and MS have much more information and proposed time frames. See the screen capture. For business and enterprise at least they're planning a full implementation of .pst files and functionality.

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Microsoft 365 Business Outllook pst notice.webp
 

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yeah, i'm tracking. but i'll believe it when i see it. Microsoft changes their minds more than a 16yo girl picking out a prom dress.
I agree, MS and their proposed timings for intro of new features etc. aren't usually very accurate.
 

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I just put a fresh copy of Office 2021 on my daughters Laptop...,
This 'Outlook (classic)' thing is normal now, right?
(I think we covered it before) :unsure:

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So rather than continue developing something that's pretty much tested, trusted and bug free they're going to start afresh. I wonder how long it would take for the new code to resemble the original.
 

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they want everything migrated to apps. good luck with that (to them). i foresee 3rd party software skyrocketing in sales within 5-7 years.
 

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If everything eventually gets migrated to web based app's and cloud storage we'll no longer need multi-terabytes of storage, we could dig out that old 50MB SCSI drive from our ATARI or BBC Micro days and still have loads of free space.
 

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If everything eventually gets migrated to web based app's and cloud storage we'll no longer need multi-terabytes of storage, we could dig out that old 50MB SCSI drive from our ATARI or BBC Micro days and still have loads of free space.
I keep all my data and photos in cloud OneDrive but I still mirror all data in real-time locally. There's no local space saving here.
 

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we could dig out that old 50MB SCSI drive from our ATARI or BBC Micro days and still have loads of free space.
Good thing I kept my SCSI Zip drive. I probably shouldn’t have used the disks for target practice though.
 

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Does this mean that there isn't really difference between the two retail versions of Office 2024? I think the "Business" version includes Outlook. If that is "Outlook Classic" than it doesn't matter. Outlook "New" is free, correct?
 

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I think the "Business" version includes Outlook. If that is "Outlook Classic" than it doesn't matter. Outlook "New" is free, correct?

I've got M365 Business. Outlook has the classic version with a toggle to change to 'New Outlook'. It took me a little while to adapt but I use 'New Outlook' which I now prefer.
 

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Outlook has the classic version with a toggle to change to 'New Outlook'.
I fired up Outlook 2024 LTSC, I can't get the damn toggle to show up!!! 🤷‍♂️
 

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I fired up Outlook 2024 LTSC, I can't get the damn toggle to show up!!! 🤷‍♂️
It is in the Registry on my desktop PC at Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\16.0\Outlook\Preferences - UseNewOutlook (REG_DWORD) set to 1

MS have a dedicated page about this. Scroll down to the "Use the registry to enable or disable the New Outlook toggle in Outlook Desktop" heading for more information.
 

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    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
    Motherboard
    Asus X1605VA bios 309
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    720p Webcam
    WiFi & USB to ethernet
I fired up Outlook 2024 LTSC, I can't get the damn toggle to show up!!! 🤷‍♂️
check page 1. i posted both reg keys that effect the toggle (both visibility and status).

Good thing I kept my SCSI Zip drive.
actually 1 method i use to store sensitive data lmao. mostly because very VERY few people actually have the drive to read them... and its offline
 

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    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
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    Operating System
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  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
One of the annoying things with MS is they have so many versions/builds/channels of Microsoft 365\Office\Windows it gets rather confusing which features work and which don't.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2Intel Core i9 13900KCorsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5...Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-...
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 3107
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
    Sound Card
    External DAC: Cambridge Audio DACMagic200M - Headphone Amp: Topping L50
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Panasonic MX950 Mini LED 55" TV 120hz
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Files)
    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    Seagate Expansion 16TB external - USB 3.2
    Seagate One Touch 18TB external HD - USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    Corsair iCue H150i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Incase Ergonomic USB (Microsoft clone)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    AMD Radeon Software & Drivers 26.1.1
    Hasleo Backup Suite
    Dashlane password manager
    Kensington Verimark fingerprint reader
    Logitech Brio 4K webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2Intel® Core™ i9-13900H32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel*Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
    Motherboard
    Asus X1605VA bios 309
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    720p Webcam
    WiFi & USB to ethernet
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