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Could, or Should, Microsoft make a CLI-only/optional-DE edition of Windows?
it would be equivalent to running linux without a desktop environment installed. It would give some efficiencies to a headless server, but would work great for a test bed for Microsoft to determine what is the bare minimum needed to make a full OS and build from there - instead of trying to pare back decades of legacy code. Alternatively, if it could simply reboot into a CLI-only mode without having the desktop environment running.
It may even allow for wacky shenanigans like letting you install a linux DE through WSL or make a very basic single-app interface, or run a webpage or game directly with near zero overhead (like how Windows 95 could reboot to run NASCAR directly on DOS)
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
"Selene"
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard
Gigabyte A520I AC Mini ITX AM4
Memory
G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Dell OEM RX 5700
Monitor(s) Displays
LG 29UM69G-B 29.0" 1.5X Ultrawide 75 Hz Monitor
Screen Resolution
2560 x 1080
Hard Drives
Intel 660p 1.02 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
PSU
Corsair CX650M 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
Case
Thermaltake Suppressor F1
Keyboard
SteelSeries APEX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse
SteelSeries Rival 300 Wired Optical Mouse
Other Info
SteelSeries Arctis 5 7.1 Channel Headset
We already have Linux and I could not see Microsoft makind a cli interface anywhere near the utility and quality of Linux. Besides, if they did, they couldn't very well call it "Windows" anymore
OS
Windows 11 Pro x64
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY Photoshop/Audio/Game/tinker build
CPU
Intel i9 13900KS P/E cores 5.8/4.4 GHz, cache 5.0 GHz
Motherboard
Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero
Memory
96GB (2x48) G.skill Ripjaws 6800 MT/s
Graphics Card(s)
Asus ROG Strix 4070 Ti OC
Sound Card
Bowers & Wilkins 606 S3 speakers; Audiolabs 7000a integrated amp; Logan Martin Sub; Creative Pebble Pro Minimilist
Monitor(s) Displays
Eizo CG2730 ColorEdge, ViewSonic VP2768
Screen Resolution
2560 x 1440p x 2
Hard Drives
WDC SN850X 4TB nvme, SN850 1TB nvme, SK-Hynix 2 TB P41 nvme,. Sabrent USB-C DS-SC5B 5-bay docking station: 6TB WDC Black, 6TB Ironwolf Pro; 2x 2TB WDC Black HDD
PSU
850W Seasonic Vertex PX-850 ATX 3.0/PCI-E 5.0
Case
Fractal Design North XL Mesh, Black Walnut
Cooling
EKWB 360 Nucleus Dark AIO w/Phanteks T30-120 fans, 2 Noctua NF-A14 Chromax case fan, 1 T30-120 fan cooling memory
Keyboard
Keychron Q3 Max TKL with custom GMK Redsuns Red Samuri keycaps, TX Stabs
Mouse
Logitech G305 wireless gaming
Internet Speed
500 Mb/s down, 12 Mb/s up
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Defender, Macrium Reflect X ;-)
Other Info
Runs hot. LOL. SP: P116/E93/M93
Phangkey Amaterasu V2 Desk Mat
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
CPU
Apple M1
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Browser
Firefox
Administrator
Staff member
There is no point in doing this for a desktop; they already do it as a server.
OS
Windows 11 Workstation
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
CPU
Ryzen 9 5950X
Motherboard
Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
Memory
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
Sound Card
Sound BlasterX Katana
Monitor(s) Displays
3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
Hard Drives
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State
Drive
PSU
ASUS ROG THOR 850W 80 Plus Platinum
Case
ASUS ROG Strix Helios Midi-Tower ARGB Gaming Case
Cooling
ASUS ROG Strix LC Performance RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler - 360mm
Keyboard
Logi Ergo
Mouse
Logitech MX Vertical
Internet Speed
900/100 Mbps
Browser
Chrome
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Pro
Other Info
HP M281 Printer
Logitech Brio Stream webcam
Yeti X mic
Operating System
Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Surface Laptop
CPU
i7
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Guru
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it would be equivalent to running linux without a desktop environment installed. It would give some efficiencies to a headless server, but would work great for a test bed for Microsoft to determine what is the bare minimum needed to make a full OS and build from there - instead of trying to pare back decades of legacy code. Alternatively, if it could simply reboot into a CLI-only mode without having the desktop environment running.
Is MS wants to do that in-house, that's fine.
Windows does need rebuilt from the ground up. AND, it needs to have all the junk they add to it... optional.
OS
Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.4349 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard
Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 5002)
Memory
G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
Sound Card
Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U3011 30"
Screen Resolution
2560 x 1600
Hard Drives
2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
PSU
PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
Case
Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
Cooling
CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
Keyboard
Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
Mouse
Logitech Optical M-100
Internet Speed
300/300
Browser
Firefox (latest)
Antivirus
Bitdefender Internet Security
Other Info
Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
Operating System
Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Built by Ghot® (not in use)
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
Motherboard
ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
Memory
TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
Graphics card(s)
EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
Screen Resolution
up to 2048 x 1536
Hard Drives
WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
PSU
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
Case
Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
Cooling
ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
Mouse
Logitech Optical M-BT96a
Keyboard
Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
Internet Speed
300/300
Browser
Firefox 3.x ??
Antivirus
Symantec (Norton)
Other Info
Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
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Oh hey!
if it could run Debian through WSL it could be interesting to work with.
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
"Selene"
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard
Gigabyte A520I AC Mini ITX AM4
Memory
G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Dell OEM RX 5700
Monitor(s) Displays
LG 29UM69G-B 29.0" 1.5X Ultrawide 75 Hz Monitor
Screen Resolution
2560 x 1080
Hard Drives
Intel 660p 1.02 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
PSU
Corsair CX650M 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
Case
Thermaltake Suppressor F1
Keyboard
SteelSeries APEX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse
SteelSeries Rival 300 Wired Optical Mouse
Other Info
SteelSeries Arctis 5 7.1 Channel Headset