Could, or Should, Microsoft make a CLI-only/optional-DE edition of Windows?


Futurdreamz

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it would be equivalent to running linux without a desktop environment installed. It would give some efficiencies to a headless server, but would work great for a test bed for Microsoft to determine what is the bare minimum needed to make a full OS and build from there - instead of trying to pare back decades of legacy code. Alternatively, if it could simply reboot into a CLI-only mode without having the desktop environment running.

It may even allow for wacky shenanigans like letting you install a linux DE through WSL or make a very basic single-app interface, or run a webpage or game directly with near zero overhead (like how Windows 95 could reboot to run NASCAR directly on DOS)
 

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We already have Linux and I could not see Microsoft makind a cli interface anywhere near the utility and quality of Linux. Besides, if they did, they couldn't very well call it "Windows" anymore 😉
 

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There is no point in doing this for a desktop; they already do it as a server.
 

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it would be equivalent to running linux without a desktop environment installed. It would give some efficiencies to a headless server, but would work great for a test bed for Microsoft to determine what is the bare minimum needed to make a full OS and build from there - instead of trying to pare back decades of legacy code. Alternatively, if it could simply reboot into a CLI-only mode without having the desktop environment running.



Is MS wants to do that in-house, that's fine.
Windows does need rebuilt from the ground up. AND, it needs to have all the junk they add to it... optional.
 

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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
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Oh hey!
if it could run Debian through WSL it could be interesting to work with.
 

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