Solved Expired password on desktop without password


Megahertz

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At home I have a desktop without a password and as I'm the only user, on startup, it goes directly to the desktop.
Today, during startup, came up a blue screen advising that my password had expired and need to be change.
So I created a password and once Windows was running I launched settings and changed the password back to blank (no password).

This is the first time I see an expired password on a computer without a password
 
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Win 11 23h2 22631.4751
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Megahertz said:
This is the first time I see an expired on a computer without a password
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All accounts must have a password. If you think you have none, then it's just that you have been allowed to set it to be a blank password.

And all passwords, blank or otherwise, can be set to expire.

www.elevenforum.com

Enable or Disable Password Expiration in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable password expiration for an account in Windows 10 and Windows 11. When you enable password expiration for an account, the user will be forced to change their password the next time they sign in when it expires. A local account password will...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com
 

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As Brink confirmed, all computers has no Password Expiration by default so I don't know why my did.
www.elevenforum.com

Enable or Disable Password Expiration in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable password expiration for an account in Windows 10 and Windows 11. When you enable password expiration for an account, the user will be forced to change their password the next time they sign in when it expires. A local account password will...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

Anyway, using the link to Brink tutorial you provided I have just set
4 - Disable Password Expiration for Local Account(s)

Thanks @Bree
 
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On the Win11 home OS edition (your specs say that you use pro - is that the same machine?), you would not even have a GUI to set a password to "never expire" and by default, it expires after 6 weeks. That's my experience for years, if Brink says, "by default it is set to 'never expire'" I would be surprised.
So unless you actively set it to "never expire either using the GUI of the pro version or via cmd on the home version, it is perfectly normal that it expires. I have seen that on every private machine that I have set up so far.
 

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Comport Colin said:
On the Win11 home OS edition (your specs say that you use pro - is that the same machine?), you would not even have a GUI to set a password to "never expire" and by default, it expires after 6 weeks. That's my experience for years, if Brink says, "by default it is set to 'never expire'" I would be surprised.
So unless you actively set it to "never expire either using the GUI of the pro version or via cmd on the home version, it is perfectly normal that it expires. I have seen that on every private machine that I have set up so far.
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That is odd. I've seen the opposite on all my systems and VMs. Password expiration has always been disabled by default for me. 🤷‍♂️
 

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I am sure that the truth is: the account that you create when setting up the PC (during OOBE) will have the flag "password never expires", while any new local account you create afterwards won't but instead obeys the default machine account pw policy which is documented to be the default wherever you look and is set to expire after 42 days. So unless you tweak your machine or unless you work with the 1st (admin-) account and no other account, you will see expiring passwords.
 

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Comport Colin said:
I am sure that the truth is: the account that you create when setting up the PC (during OOBE) will have the flag "password never expires", while any new local account you create afterwards won't but instead obeys the default machine account pw policy which is documented to be the default wherever you look and is set to expire after 42 days. So unless you tweak your machine or unless you work with the 1st (admin-) account and no other account, you will see expiring passwords.
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My account was created during Win 11 install so password should never expire.

Who knows if some update has changed so password now will expire?
 

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    custom build
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    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
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    GA-Z170-HD3P
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    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
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    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
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    500 Mb/s
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    Firefox 64

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Asus Q550LF
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    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
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    1920 x 1080
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    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
No, this behavior is still the same as of w11 24H2. But anyhow, you know the solution.
 

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