Gmail machinations


jro11

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I spent 4 hours on this last night...
Background:
  • Google seems to be trying to eliminate user accounts that users are not using enough.
    • I have had some old accounts (over a year) questioned and then eliminated...
    • An account I have not used for maybe 2 months is now coming into question...
  • Google is impossible to contact.
  • Google used to want us to use two-step verification.
  • Now Google seems to want the equivalent of three-step verification.
  • I am using the moniker [email protected] to represent the real name of my account. I will refer to it as foobar@ from now on.
  • I believe Google is trying to get users to adopt one password, whether they like it or not.
Last night I tried to log into my foobar@. I did it two ways.
- Way#1: I entered gmail.com into the browser.
- Way#2: I went to gmail.com and tried to switch from the account it was displaying to foobar@

what happened next applies to both Way#1 and Way#2.

- When I input foobar@ I was asked for my password. I input my correct password and it was rejected.
- I did this two more times and was rejected.
- The third time I enabled [Forgot Password?] and changed the password.
- I tried again to get onto gmail using the second password and was rejected.
- I tried again...using the first password, and the second password and both times was rejected.

Why is it not possible to enable two Indent Lists on one email???

- Finally, I tried another tact. I went to another browser and found gmail activated for foobar@!
----- I delved into my user preferences to manually change my password. (this turned out to be very difficult--there was no straightforward way to change my password through my preferences.)
-----When I tried to change the password, Google asked for my password. It rejected my password.
-----I don't remember what I did next, only that I did things for about an hour, all to no avail!
----------What did happen was that eventually Google seemed to tentatively accept my password, forced me to verify (2-step), AND THEN WANTED ME TO ESTABLISH A THIRD METHOD OF VERIFICATION that I think it called a backup-something. I did not know what to give Google-I only have one cell phone. It was at this point that I quit.

Today
- I tried to log into foobar@ using the second password. Google accepted it in this manner.

verify.png
What is going on?
What does Google want from me?


 

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I don't have that problem. I have two gmail accounts with 2 different passwords. So I'm not quite sure. Have you tried clearing out your browser history? Use cCleaner and just clean it. . lol
 

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So I've done this a few dozen more times and gotten the same, but a different Google response. Ever wonder how to explain to someone what "the same but different" means?

a number of other questions Google might want to explain...
verify2.jpg
  • If Google can't verify the account belongs to me, why is it that if I click on the down arrow next to the email that Google has no problem accepting and switching to any of those email accounts (some of which use this very account as their 'secondary' account).
  • On the other hand, if I bring up one of those email accounts Google is willing to show me my email from, and try to add-user and then enable this email account it will respond as above. Apparently, this account, despite the fact it just (last night) allowed me to change its password, Google seems to have branded as a 'poison account'.
On another matter:
What does "Windows 11 Forum would like your permission to enable push notifications." mean, and does it have anything to do with this topic?
 
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So I've done this a few dozen more times and gotten the same, but a different Google response. Ever wonder how to explain to someone what "the same but different" means?View attachment 70159
yeah that is pretty weird
 

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The plot thickens...
As if to prove that what I'm saying is true...this came up on a browser window.verify3.png
I pasted the url into the screenshot.
 

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On another matter:
What does "Windows 11 Forum would like your permission to enable push notifications." mean, and does it have anything to do with this topic?
It has nothing to do with this topic.

A push notification is sent from a website. You need to give permission for the website to send you notifications and for your browser to pass them on. If enabled for Eleven Forum you're giving permission to get notifications like this one......

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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.

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    Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package.
    In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media.
    Upgraded to 25H2 by Enablement Package.

    Also running Insider Dev, and Canary builds and Windows 10 as native boot .vhdx.
  • My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

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    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine.
I just noticed...things are happening v e r y s l o w l y on this computer.

I'm about to take the computer apart and check to see if the "memory is seated" well. Is there any way I can tell, without taking the computer apart to see if there are serious memory problems? Through Task Manager, Belarc Advisor, anything???

The only things open now are this forum and Firefox (5 tab instances).
 

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    Gigabyte B75M-D3H
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    8068 MB Usable Installed Memory
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    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
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    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
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    3 Displays
    Screen Resolution
    n/a
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    SSD and others (internal and external)
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    Keyboard
    External
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    Browser
    Chrome, Firefox, Tor, Brave, Opera, etc.
    Antivirus
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    Win10 & unfortunately OneDrive: Can't completely rid myself of this!!
A push notification is sent from a website. You need to give permission for the website to send you notifications and for your browser to pass them on. If enabled for Eleven Forum you're giving permission to get notifications like this one......
Enabled...


😜
 
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    16GB
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    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
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    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
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    laptop (small) and 1 or 2 external monitors
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    PSU
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    Cooling
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    Keyboard
    External!
    Mouse
    External
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    Browser
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    Antivirus
    WinDefender
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    Operating System
    Win10
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    self
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B75M-D3H
    Memory
    8068 MB Usable Installed Memory
    Graphics card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 Displays
    Screen Resolution
    n/a
    Hard Drives
    SSD and others (internal and external)
    Case
    Desktop
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    External
    Mouse
    External
    Browser
    Chrome, Firefox, Tor, Brave, Opera, etc.
    Antivirus
    Win Defender
    Other Info
    Win10 & unfortunately OneDrive: Can't completely rid myself of this!!

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    Windows 11 HomeAMD Athlon Silver 3050U8GBRadeon Graphics
    OS
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    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23-R9VY
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD (from April 2026: 250GB EVO 850)
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2, and 25H2 on 30th September 2025 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 25H2.

    UPDATE - 11 April 2026: due to mechanical deterioration this PC has been retired from active duty. The OS with all software and files has been migrated to my System Seven in 'Other systems' to carry on as my general purpose 'main machine'.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProIntel® Core™ i5-520M8GB(integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.

    In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.
    Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package.
    In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media.
    Upgraded to 25H2 by Enablement Package.

    Also running Insider Dev, and Canary builds and Windows 10 as native boot .vhdx.
  • My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine.
FWIW, I had big trouble letting my Outlook interwork with my gmail and the workaround I found is a little bizarre, I think. I disabled both pop and imap on my gmail and instead forward incoming email to a pop account in my Outlook and respond from that pop account. Makes me look like a VIP having a gmail filter LOL

Anyway, that has worked for a couple of years now, but if that stops working, I have to find another workaround :eek1:
 

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I'm not sure that that isn't what I was doing before I this catastrophe.
I had one email address in the profile
(to my knowledge one cannot run Outlook without a profile;
and one cannot run a Profile without at least one email account).
and the second email account had been instructed to send its emails to this one account.

Well, since I cannot access the second email account (except on the browsers that happen to have it up on gmail) I can no longer instruct it to do anything!
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro16GB2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    OS
    Win11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop (small) and 1 or 2 external monitors
    Screen Resolution
    -
    Hard Drives
    PC711 NVMe SK hynix 1TB 1.02 TB NVMe ANB2N582412102F0G_0001
    PSU
    -
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    fan
    Keyboard
    External!
    Mouse
    External
    Internet Speed
    -
    Browser
    Chrome (Chrome profiles), Firefox (Bookmark Search Plus2), Edge (History page), Opera (annoying)
    Antivirus
    WinDefender
    Other Info
    Win11 Home 23H2 22631.3447
  • At a glance

    Win108068 MB Usable Installed Memory2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Operating System
    Win10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    self
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B75M-D3H
    Memory
    8068 MB Usable Installed Memory
    Graphics card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 Displays
    Screen Resolution
    n/a
    Hard Drives
    SSD and others (internal and external)
    Case
    Desktop
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    External
    Mouse
    External
    Browser
    Chrome, Firefox, Tor, Brave, Opera, etc.
    Antivirus
    Win Defender
    Other Info
    Win10 & unfortunately OneDrive: Can't completely rid myself of this!!

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro16GB2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    OS
    Win11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop (small) and 1 or 2 external monitors
    Screen Resolution
    -
    Hard Drives
    PC711 NVMe SK hynix 1TB 1.02 TB NVMe ANB2N582412102F0G_0001
    PSU
    -
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    fan
    Keyboard
    External!
    Mouse
    External
    Internet Speed
    -
    Browser
    Chrome (Chrome profiles), Firefox (Bookmark Search Plus2), Edge (History page), Opera (annoying)
    Antivirus
    WinDefender
    Other Info
    Win11 Home 23H2 22631.3447
  • At a glance

    Win108068 MB Usable Installed Memory2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Operating System
    Win10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    self
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B75M-D3H
    Memory
    8068 MB Usable Installed Memory
    Graphics card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 Displays
    Screen Resolution
    n/a
    Hard Drives
    SSD and others (internal and external)
    Case
    Desktop
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    External
    Mouse
    External
    Browser
    Chrome, Firefox, Tor, Brave, Opera, etc.
    Antivirus
    Win Defender
    Other Info
    Win10 & unfortunately OneDrive: Can't completely rid myself of this!!

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro16GB2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    OS
    Win11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop (small) and 1 or 2 external monitors
    Screen Resolution
    -
    Hard Drives
    PC711 NVMe SK hynix 1TB 1.02 TB NVMe ANB2N582412102F0G_0001
    PSU
    -
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    fan
    Keyboard
    External!
    Mouse
    External
    Internet Speed
    -
    Browser
    Chrome (Chrome profiles), Firefox (Bookmark Search Plus2), Edge (History page), Opera (annoying)
    Antivirus
    WinDefender
    Other Info
    Win11 Home 23H2 22631.3447
  • At a glance

    Win108068 MB Usable Installed Memory2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Operating System
    Win10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    self
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B75M-D3H
    Memory
    8068 MB Usable Installed Memory
    Graphics card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 Displays
    Screen Resolution
    n/a
    Hard Drives
    SSD and others (internal and external)
    Case
    Desktop
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    External
    Mouse
    External
    Browser
    Chrome, Firefox, Tor, Brave, Opera, etc.
    Antivirus
    Win Defender
    Other Info
    Win10 & unfortunately OneDrive: Can't completely rid myself of this!!
I spent 4 hours on this last night...
Just my opinion, but I find Google to be a joke. I refuse to use it for anything and block it any way I can. Unfortunately though, I do watch youtube.
I also find Google to be the most intrusive company. I honestly believe they are quite evil.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built 2013
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    ROG SupremeFX Formula 8-Channel High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Touch Screen Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list. OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / Mx Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    2000/500Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
    TP-Link BE9300 WiFi 7 Bluetooth 5.4 (Archer TBE550E)
    TP-Link TX201 V1 2.5GB Lan

    Grandstream HT812 - VoIP
    ASUS DSL-AX82U - Mesh
    ASUS RT-AC68U - Mesh
    ASUS RT-BE88U Router

    Brother MFC-L2880DW Printer

    I’m on a horse.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655 (Wifes)13th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-1340P Process...16GB LPDDR5-52001x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655 (Wifes)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7 14IRL8 - Type 82YL
    CPU
    13th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-1340P Processor(Core™ i5-1340P)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5-5200
    Graphics card(s)
    1x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512 GB SSD PCIe
    Mouse
    Logiteck MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    2000/500
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.


    Wireless Network: Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 AX; Bluetooth® 5.1 or above
    Ports: 1x 1 Novo button; 2 in 1 Audio Combo jack; Micro SD Card Reader; HDMI 1.4b; 2 x USB Type-C (TBT4)
    USB 3.2 Gen 2 DP 1.4a
    PD 3.0); 1 x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type A
    Camera
    1x 1080P FHD IR/RGB Hybrid with Privacy Shutter and Dual Array Microphone
    Graphics
    1x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Monitor
    14" WUXGA
    Form Factor
    Convertible Notebook
  • Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655 (Wifes)

    Yoga 7 2-in-1 14IML9 - Type 83DJ

    Processor: Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 155H Processor(Core™ Ultra 7 155H)

    Memory: 32GB LPD5X-7467

    Hard Drive: 1 TB SSD PCIe

    Wireless Network: 1x Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 AX; Bluetooth® 5.1 or above

    Ports: 1 x HDMI 2.1 TMDS; 1 x Novo Button; 1 x Combo Audio Jack
    2 x USB-C (USB 4.0)
    1 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1

    Camera: 1080P FHD IR Hybrid with Dual Microphone

    Graphics: Intel® Arc™ Graphics

    Monitor: 14" 2.8K

    ...Where's my horse?
antspants
Does your email address end with @gmail.com?
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro16GB2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    OS
    Win11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop (small) and 1 or 2 external monitors
    Screen Resolution
    -
    Hard Drives
    PC711 NVMe SK hynix 1TB 1.02 TB NVMe ANB2N582412102F0G_0001
    PSU
    -
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    fan
    Keyboard
    External!
    Mouse
    External
    Internet Speed
    -
    Browser
    Chrome (Chrome profiles), Firefox (Bookmark Search Plus2), Edge (History page), Opera (annoying)
    Antivirus
    WinDefender
    Other Info
    Win11 Home 23H2 22631.3447
  • At a glance

    Win108068 MB Usable Installed Memory2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Operating System
    Win10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    self
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B75M-D3H
    Memory
    8068 MB Usable Installed Memory
    Graphics card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 Displays
    Screen Resolution
    n/a
    Hard Drives
    SSD and others (internal and external)
    Case
    Desktop
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    External
    Mouse
    External
    Browser
    Chrome, Firefox, Tor, Brave, Opera, etc.
    Antivirus
    Win Defender
    Other Info
    Win10 & unfortunately OneDrive: Can't completely rid myself of this!!
antspants
Does your email address end with @gmail.com?
Not if my life depended on it.
I have a hotmail.com and a couple of outlook.com addresses. Outside of that I have a server and host a handful of my own (friends & families) domains of which I have email addresses for. In total I probably have about 20 email addresses.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built 2013
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    ROG SupremeFX Formula 8-Channel High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Touch Screen Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list. OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / Mx Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    2000/500Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
    TP-Link BE9300 WiFi 7 Bluetooth 5.4 (Archer TBE550E)
    TP-Link TX201 V1 2.5GB Lan

    Grandstream HT812 - VoIP
    ASUS DSL-AX82U - Mesh
    ASUS RT-AC68U - Mesh
    ASUS RT-BE88U Router

    Brother MFC-L2880DW Printer

    I’m on a horse.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655 (Wifes)13th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-1340P Process...16GB LPDDR5-52001x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655 (Wifes)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7 14IRL8 - Type 82YL
    CPU
    13th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-1340P Processor(Core™ i5-1340P)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5-5200
    Graphics card(s)
    1x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512 GB SSD PCIe
    Mouse
    Logiteck MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    2000/500
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.


    Wireless Network: Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 AX; Bluetooth® 5.1 or above
    Ports: 1x 1 Novo button; 2 in 1 Audio Combo jack; Micro SD Card Reader; HDMI 1.4b; 2 x USB Type-C (TBT4)
    USB 3.2 Gen 2 DP 1.4a
    PD 3.0); 1 x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type A
    Camera
    1x 1080P FHD IR/RGB Hybrid with Privacy Shutter and Dual Array Microphone
    Graphics
    1x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Monitor
    14" WUXGA
    Form Factor
    Convertible Notebook
  • Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655 (Wifes)

    Yoga 7 2-in-1 14IML9 - Type 83DJ

    Processor: Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 155H Processor(Core™ Ultra 7 155H)

    Memory: 32GB LPD5X-7467

    Hard Drive: 1 TB SSD PCIe

    Wireless Network: 1x Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 AX; Bluetooth® 5.1 or above

    Ports: 1 x HDMI 2.1 TMDS; 1 x Novo Button; 1 x Combo Audio Jack
    2 x USB-C (USB 4.0)
    1 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1

    Camera: 1080P FHD IR Hybrid with Dual Microphone

    Graphics: Intel® Arc™ Graphics

    Monitor: 14" 2.8K

    ...Where's my horse?

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