Solved How do I keep the Win 10 the desktop icons/layout appearance when upgrading to Win 11


rzn6jw

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My wife's PC is running Win 10 Pro and I want to upgrade it to Win 11 Pro. Here's the headache: she has her favorite background installed and numerous app/folder/document icons scattered all across the desktop, top to bottom, left to right. No rhyme or reason to me but she knows where every icon she needs is located and not have to hunt for it.

She will not upgrade to Win 11 unless she can have the same desktop she has in Win 10.

My project, should I undertake it, is finding software, or some other way, to keep her current desktop appearance on upgrade. I know I can upgrade and keep all her documents and apps, but how can I keep her desktop so I can migrate it to Win 11 and have it appear that nothing has changed?

The Win 10 forum suggested 'Fences' but I don't want to group her icons, just restore her original desktop.
 
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Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3570

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The Win 10 forum suggested 'Fences' but I don't want to group her icons, just restore her original desktop.
You don’t have to group icons with fences, it will ask if you want to, but just say no on install/setup, that you will create your own fences, and just don't. It can also just remember where everything is when a snapshot is taken. If you’re simply upgrading, nothing should change anyway. But please don’t hold me to that. There is probably simpler free software that can remember your settings, I just don’t know what it is. If Stardock still sells lifetime licenses, Fences4 is quite cheap.

I love fences, and I would predict that if your wife tried a few fences on her desktop, she would also.
Wait until others chime into your question, they will have other methods, possibly.
 

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ReIcon, DesktopOK, Iconoid (ReIcon has portable version)
Install the app, backup and save the desktop positions, upgrade to 11. If positions are moved, restore the backup file using the app.

If she's that picky about her icon positions you can always take a screenshot of her desktop and save it.. Then after the upgrade verify everything is in the wanted spot.
 

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keep her current desktop appearance on upgrade.
f she's that picky about her icon positions you can always take a screenshot of her desktop and save it.. Then after the upgrade verify everything is in the wanted spot.
You just took the words out of my mouth young Lady.

You can also take a screen shot of the desktop without the Icons showing and save the background picture to a separate
drive. you can then replace the background with the one she likes.

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I wonder whether this utility would help? MIDIOX

I've never tried it. I sort my icons, and don't rely on them being in random locations.

I once worked with a very organized (more likely compulsive) guy who had dozens of icons in random locations on his desktop. His tasks were fairly complex, and he relied heavily on having quick access to the applications. I was tempted to do a sort, but I never succumbed to the temptation. He probably would have quit the job. ;-)
 

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Great. Think I will give Fences a try and Relcon or DesktopOK as a backup.

Thanks again.
 

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Great. Think I will give Fences a try and Relcon or DesktopOK as a backup.

Thanks again.
There is a process to save a backup for fences that you can use if you reinstall or for unexpected complications. If you give me a short time I will place it in here for you. It involves storing the backup (snapshot) folder and a registry key backup. very simple I would guess, you seem to know as much to handle it.
 

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    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
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    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
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    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
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    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
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After installing Fences4:

To save a snapshot:

- Right click on your desktop select "View" then select "Configure Fences"


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- When Fences4 opens, go down to "Layout & Snapping"
- Click on “Take Snapshot”
If you rename a snapshot (right click on snapshot), it will not be removed if you select Fences4 to save a daily snapshot. Fences4 keeps a set amount of snapshots. I disable this feature as I like to manually take snapshots.

002.png



Backing up Snapshots: (After you're happy with the layout)

Snapshots are stored in C:\Users\YOUR USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Stardock\Fences\Backups\
(You will need to replace YOUR USERNAME with your user account name on your PC)

- Copy the "backups" folder and store it somewhere for future use.

- Open Regedit
- Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Stardock\Fences
- Right click on fences and "export" the key to the same place as the backups folder you saved (or somewhere).

003.png

Redo this backup process if you ever make future changes. it is just a better process and pretty much ensures a positive result if you ever reinstall Windows.

If you ever reinstall Windows, & after reloading Fences 4:
- Replace the contents of the backed up Snaspshot folder, into the newly installed Snapshots folder. (C:\Users\YOUR USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Stardock\Fences\Backups\)
- Click (or right click) and run the exported registry key.
- Reboot
- (might not be needed) Open Fences4, go to Fences4 "Layout & Snapping" (as above)
- Right click on the desktop snapshot you want to recover (you can name these when you take a snapshot)
- Select "Restore Snapsahot"

004.png


You can set Fences4 to take regular snapshots and keep a certain amount in the backups folder. Then, you only need to restore a snapshot that you need to if something goes wrong. (Like you auto organizing the icons for your wife 😛)

I believe that I haven't left anything out.
Cheers @rzn6jw
 
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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Full Tower
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
One of the things I like about Fences4, is the ability to create a fence that automatically stores any new icons or files that go to my desktop. I can then move those to any fence or drive that I want to.
There are quite a few automatic options, like creating fences that will automatically store certain file types into a fence when they go to your desktop (which can then be moved at my own leisure).. etc etc
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Full Tower
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.

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