Solved How do I manage BIOS content?


So, I guess all the system builders who's experienced the opposite, the hundreds of Google posts saying the same, the vendors who provides the BIOS saying the same are just imagining things and don't know what they're talking about :unsure:

Yeah, ok :D
All I stated, as well as Bree and glasskuter, is that in dozens, if not hundreds, of collective BIOS flashes, it has never happened to us. Is it a possibility? Sure it is. But to the people that are saying that it WILL happen, every time.....no, it won't happen every time.
 

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    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
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All I stated, as well as Bree and glasskuter, is that in dozens, if not hundreds, of collective BIOS flashes, it has never happened to us. Is it a possibility? Sure it is. But to the people that are saying that it WILL happen, every time.....no, it won't happen every time.
Well since you want to go there, Luckily for me, I've got more than just you, glasskutter, Bree, Try3, and this particular thread validating what I've said. I've pretty much got the whole internet on my side, as well as board vendors ;-)

BTW...

Movin on :cool:
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
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    PC/Desktop
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    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
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    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
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    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
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    Radeon VII
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    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
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    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
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    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
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    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
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    Cooler Master H500M
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    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
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    Logitech Craft
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
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    Intel i7-7700K
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    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
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    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
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    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
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    This is my backup system.
If this thread is about a BIOS reverting to default settings after a flashing: yes, it has happened to me several times when updating the BIOS in Lenovo computers.

In one such a case, the error "No operating system found" appeared. after the flashing. The cause was that the boot disk was MBR, the boot mode was legacy, CSM active, and "Auto", meaning that the computer could boot from either a MBR or GPT disk. But after the flashing, the boot mode reverted to the default "UEFI Only", which couldn´t boot from a MBR disk, only from a GPT one.
 

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Luckily for me, I've got more than just you, glasskutter, Bree, Try3, and this particular thread validating what I've said.
Drew,

You can delete me from your list.

You are wrong to say that Bioses "will" lose all customisations when they get updated.
You are wrong to say that your opinion has been "proven".
No matter how few people have reported experiencing Bioses not losing customisations when they get updated, those experiences demonstrate that the situation is not cut and dried. Different people have different experiences.

All the best,
Denis
 

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To everyone else, I just want to reiterate where my posts on BIOS resets arose from. This statement is simply not true
I am in complete agreement with @NavyLCDR. In 30 years the only time I have had a bios reset to default is when I reset it to default, never through a bios update.
Even if we gave into the "some BIOS updates don't reset" the above statement is still not true, because it indicates BIOS resets don't occur. They in fact do, as shown and stated throughout the PC community, except for a few members here.

And as noted, it's NOT just my opinion or my fact. Don't believe me research it for yourselves. And yes, in the world of anything can happen, I can't say 100 percent, but 99.9 is a reset. And again, if you've never changed any BIOS setting, there's nothing to "reset"

With that it is time to move on as this is becoming nothing more than a mine is bigger than yours argument.

Peace :cool:
 
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    Intel i9-9900K
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    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
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    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
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    Radeon VII
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    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
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    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
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    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
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    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
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    Cooler Master H500M
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    Logitech Craft
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    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
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    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
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    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
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    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
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    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
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    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
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    Corsair H100i
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
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    Logitech MK 710
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
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    This is my backup system.
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    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3374 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
My ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Pro WiFi and Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro WiFi MoBd systems both always require resetting Bios parameters after a Bios update. ASUS Bios update resets memory speed to 2666 MHZ and resetting Bios DOCP to Profile 1 restores DDR4-3200 MHZ, while the Gigabyte system resets memory speed to 2133 MHZ vice 3000 MHZ after I reset Bios memory setting to Profile 1. Other tweaks have to be redone, like turning off RGB LED lighting, setting Initial Display, etc.
On the ASUS, F-12 does save a Bios screenshot to USB drive. When I go to save and exit the Bios, there is a screen that shows each change I made to the BIOS, which would be a good time to take a screenshot that might serve the original posters question if his PC Bios has similar function.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2428
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    Ryzen 7 5800X
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    ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Pro WiFi
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    32 GB Crucial 3200 MHz
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    Nvidia GTX 3060 Ti
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    none
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    LG 29UB55 B 29 inch
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    2560 x 1080
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    Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB NVMe SSD
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    Seasonic Focus GM650
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    Fractal Design Define 7 Compact
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    RO Calla_RN
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    Built in
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    SK hynix Gold P31 NVMe 1 TB
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    built in
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    included
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    Logitech M310 wireless
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    Logitech K520 wireless
    Internet Speed
    354 Mbps
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    Brave
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    Malwarebytes Pro and BitDefender with exceptions and allowed lists. They have been running together for years.
I'm still working on my Plan B, How do I protect myself and recover from a BIOS update that didn't turn out well? I am at the homeowner level of expertise and am a long time Dell user. The good news is that I think I found a starting point in my quest. Dell has invested in a BIOS recovery process that has a lot of promise. I'll start with the initial doc and see if it does what I want. :unsure:
How to Recover the BIOS on a Dell Computer or Tablet

How to Recover the BIOS on a Dell Computer or Tablet | Dell US

Summary: This article provides information about what is BIOS recovery and how to recover the BIOS on select Dell computers or tablets. The BIOS recovery feature helps recover the computer from a Power On Self-Test (POST) or a boot failure that is caused by a corrupt BIOS
 

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    Integrated
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    Dell S2421HS
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    1920 x 1080
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    460W
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I believe we're all right in our own perspective cases.
it is time to move on as this is becoming nothing more than a mine is bigger than yours argument
Great advise. (And mine better not be bigger. Last time I looked I didn't have the equipment to even be in the contest);-)
Happy Memorial Day Everyone, and to those of you who have served, thank you. God Bess the USA.
 
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    500w
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    Dell factory
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    Logitech wireless
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    Logitech wired
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    still not telling
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    Firefox
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    Defender+MWB Premium

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
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    PC/Desktop
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    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
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    Cooler Master H500M
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    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
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    Logitech Craft
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
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    Microsoft Edge Chromium
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    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
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    Win 10 Pro 22H2 (build 19045.2130)
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
    Sound Card
    Onboard (Creative Sound Blaster certified ZxRi)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2415 (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 710
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    This is my backup system.
I'm going to mark this as solved after reviewing the Dell documentation about BIOS recovery and the status of my desktops. That makes more sense for me at my level and mitigates some of the 'bad BIOS load' risk.
Thank you all for your expertise and advice.
Dick
 

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    Windows 11 PRO 23H2
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8950
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    I5-12400
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    32GB
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1630
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell S2421HS
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    [1]1TB NVMe, [2] 1TB Samsung SATA SSDs, [1] 2TB Samsung SATA SSD
    PSU
    460W
    Case
    MiniTower
    Cooling
    Air
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Elecomm trackball
    Internet Speed
    1G
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Build 22631.3296
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    Windows 11 PRO 23H2
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    Laptop
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    Dell VOSTRO 5630
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    13th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-1340P
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    16G
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    Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
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    onboard
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    16", FHD+
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    1920x1200
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    512 GB, M.2, PCIe NVMe
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    65W
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    Laptop
    Cooling
    air
    Mouse
    Logitech trackball
    Keyboard
    onboard
    Internet Speed
    1G
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Build 22631.3296
I'm going to mark this as solved after reviewing the Dell documentation about BIOS recovery and the status of my desktops. That makes more sense for me at my level and mitigates some of the 'bad BIOS load' risk.
Thank you all for your expertise and advice.
Dick

Thanks. And yeah, when unsure and getting mixed information, it's always best to go by what the vendor says.

Peace :cool:
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro 22H2 (build 19045.2130)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
    Sound Card
    Onboard (Creative Sound Blaster certified ZxRi)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2415 (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 710
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    This is my backup system.

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