how is it possible to use android apps on non-supported window 11 devices


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is it possible to use android apps on non-supported Windows 11 devices .
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Yoi can install an android emulator like bluestacks or Nox.
 

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I heard Microsoft made some new changes in Windows 10 and 11, which enables its users to install android apps on windows without any emulators.
 

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This is still a work in progress, you have the option of running android apps via the "your Phone" app available on the store if not already available, this will allow you to run an emulation of your phone in windows 10 or 11, and run some apps from the desktop.

The Subsystem for android which is a built in emulator for windows 11 is still in late Beta so you would need to be running a DEV build until it is released, with all the related risks.
I use the Your Phone method for running some apps that do dot have a native windows app and it is usable - It's also nice to have Phone generated notifications etc on the PC

There is, as far as I know, not any planned release date for the "Subsystem for android" but it will hopefully be available with the first major Windows 11 update if not sooner
 

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This is still a work in progress, you have the option of running android apps via the "your Phone" app available on the store if not already available, this will allow you to run an emulation of your phone in windows 10 or 11, and run some apps from the desktop.

The Subsystem for android which is a built in emulator for windows 11 is still in late Beta so you would need to be running a DEV build until it is released, with all the related risks.
I use the Your Phone method for running some apps that do dot have a native windows app and it is usable - It's also nice to have Phone generated notifications etc on the PC

There is, as far as I know, not any planned release date for the "Subsystem for android" but it will hopefully be available with the first major Windows 11 update if not sooner
The problem is this is only available to US users - I dont know if just installing a US version of Windows is enough, or if you would need say a VPN to fool it into thinking you are US based or something like that.

I do get irritated by MS's parochial attitude on these initiatives. I cannot see any reason why they need to restrict it to 1 country, or at least widen audience in weaks not months.

Also, the apps you can actually use are a subset of the Amazon android store apps. I have a kindle, and I "hacked" it so it could run google apps like any android tablet.

I do not know if you can sideload apps without more investigation.

I guess, as always, we still cannot expect google and MS to cooperate.
 

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I have an android phone (actually I have three that are still "usable" ), and I also have a number of Android Tablets Two 10" and two 7"

I tend to take a phone and a Tablet with me when out, the 7" is more useful for some trips but I use the 10" as a replacement for a small laptop as I have attached cases with KB and Trackpad, my Laptop is a bit large at 17" screen for quick trips but is a good desktop replacement for longer trips.

I have a number of Wildlife ID guides on the tablets which eases the load from not carrying the Books with me when traveling, my main usage for android on the PC is that there are a lot of household control and security apps that only provide an android or IOS app for using the hardware.

The your phone app allows me to access the android control apps on a bigger screen, although I did use a game player app for a while LD Player that was an emulator that worked fullscreen or windowed as need and worked well, - unfortunately I had some issues with it after windows updates so swapped back to Your Phone.

to be completely honest I have my phone in a wireless charging desktop stand on my desk, so I do not need to have the phone duplicated on to the PC screen, but it can be easier to see and type on on the PC keyboard and 32" 4K Screen :wink:
 

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The problem is this is only available to US users - I dont know if just installing a US version of Windows is enough, or if you would need say a VPN to fool it into thinking you are US based or something like that.

I do get irritated by MS's parochial attitude on these initiatives. I cannot see any reason why they need to restrict it to 1 country, or at least widen audience in weaks not months.

Also, the apps you can actually use are a subset of the Amazon android store apps. I have a kindle, and I "hacked" it so it could run google apps like any android tablet.

I do not know if you can sideload apps without more investigation.

I guess, as always, we still cannot expect google and MS to cooperate.
Hi there
I can understand a "limited" roll out first.

It's not always as easy to fix for universal roll out as that by simply offerring it to all insiders or whatever even if it seems to make more sense and yield wider testing. There may still be those legal copyright and intellectual property rights issues - especially with regard to Android which is essentially a Google proprietary App even if based on Linux whereas any pure linux distro is totally 100% open source or at worst still has GNU public license. Irritating I know but for the moment just grit your teeth and use a VPN for those cases where you want to try this stuff out.

The last think Ms wants to get embroiled in is in lengthy often pointless battles in US Courtrooms with armies of high paid lawyers.

Cheers
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There are workarounds for all the above mentioned "issues".

I run WSA in Windows 11 with Google Play installed on a PC running a i7-2600K CPU, no TPM support in Finland. :winkt:
 

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There are workarounds for all the above mentioned "issues".

I run WSA in Windows 11 with Google Play installed on a PC running a i7-2600K CPU, no TPM support in Finland. :winkt:
can you share the settings?
 

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    Hard Drives
    WDC WD2500BPVT-75JJ5T0
    Keyboard
    Standard PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse
    PS/2 Compatible Mouse
    Internet Speed
    8mb
    Browser
    ms edge
    Antivirus
    windows defender
    Other Info
    http://u.pc.cd/TPRotalK

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro build 10.0.25151.1000 (Dev Channel)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WSA: Installed
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
    VBS: Enabled
    HVCI: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech G710+
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inc
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 @ 2.80GHz 57 °C Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0K0DNP (CPU 1)
    Memory
    4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1366x768@40Hz) Intel HD Graphics 3000 (Dell)
    Sound Card
    High Definition Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD2500BPVT-75JJ5T0
    Keyboard
    Standard PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse
    PS/2 Compatible Mouse
    Internet Speed
    8mb
    Browser
    ms edge
    Antivirus
    windows defender
    Other Info
    http://u.pc.cd/TPRotalK

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro build 10.0.25151.1000 (Dev Channel)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WSA: Installed
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
    VBS: Enabled
    HVCI: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech G710+
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card

gbkjhy

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inc
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 @ 2.80GHz 57 °C Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0K0DNP (CPU 1)
    Memory
    4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1366x768@40Hz) Intel HD Graphics 3000 (Dell)
    Sound Card
    High Definition Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD2500BPVT-75JJ5T0
    Keyboard
    Standard PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse
    PS/2 Compatible Mouse
    Internet Speed
    8mb
    Browser
    ms edge
    Antivirus
    windows defender
    Other Info
    http://u.pc.cd/TPRotalK

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro build 10.0.25151.1000 (Dev Channel)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WSA: Installed
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
    VBS: Enabled
    HVCI: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech G710+
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card

gbkjhy

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inc
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 @ 2.80GHz 57 °C Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0K0DNP (CPU 1)
    Memory
    4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1366x768@40Hz) Intel HD Graphics 3000 (Dell)
    Sound Card
    High Definition Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD2500BPVT-75JJ5T0
    Keyboard
    Standard PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse
    PS/2 Compatible Mouse
    Internet Speed
    8mb
    Browser
    ms edge
    Antivirus
    windows defender
    Other Info
    http://u.pc.cd/TPRotalK
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