Solved How to select new default programs when the "More Apps" link is Greyed Out


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I'm not a fan of Microsoft's reworked Paint program, so I downloaded Paint Classic as an alternative.
It seems to work exactly like the old Paint program, so I'm happy about that.
However, I can't figure out a way to make it the default program to open jpg files.
When I hover on a jpg file and click "Open with", Paint Classic is not on the list.
I then click on "Choose another App" which brings a pop-up of alternatives.
Paint Classic is not on that list either, and the "More Apps" link is greyed out.
Win 11 has at least six ways to change default programs - I had the same issue with each of them.
So is there a way to force the Paint Classic program to be the default for jpg's under these circumstances?
 

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I also tried Settings>Apps>Default Apps where you can set defaults for applications.
Neither the app Classic Paint or the file mspaint1.exe will show up on the list so you could set defaults on it.
 

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    32 GB
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right click on the file you want to open, select "open with" then maybe "more options" if needed, when you find the app you want set it as default
 

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When I hover on a jpg file and click "Open with", Paint Classic is not on the list.
I then click on "Choose another App" which brings a pop-up of alternatives.
Paint Classic is not on that list either, and the "More Apps" link is greyed out.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ProDesk 600 G4 MT
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz [6 Cores]
    Motherboard
    HP 83EC - KBC Version 07.D4.00
    Memory
    64 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Synaptics HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" LG
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    (2) 1 TB
    Internet Speed
    25 Mb/s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Laptop 17-cp3005dx
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7430U with Radeon Graphics, 2.3 Ghz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    HP 8D6B ver. 5908
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon Graphics (integrated in mother board)
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Internal Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    USB Attached SCSI (USAS) Mass Storage Device (1 TB)
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Just to check, can you open Paint Classic and open the file from there
 

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Alienware M18 R1
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    13th Gen Core i9 13900HX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 @4800MHz 2x16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 4090HX 16GB
    Sound Card
    Nvidia HD / Realtek ALC3254
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18" QHD+
    Screen Resolution
    25660 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    C: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    D: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    Case
    Dark Metallic Moon
    Keyboard
    Alienware M Series per-key AlienFX RGB
    Mouse
    Alienware AW610M
    Browser
    Chrome and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Norton
    Other Info
    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
    Killer Killer AX1690 Wi-Fi Network Adaptor Wi-Fi 6E
    Bluetooth 5.2
    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware Area 51m R2
    CPU
    10th Gen i-9 10900 K
    Memory
    32Gb Dual Channel DDR4 @ 8843MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2080 Super
    Sound Card
    Nvidia
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Hard Drive C: Samsung 2TB SSD PM981a NVMe
    Hard Drive D:Samsung 2TB SSD 970 EVO Plus
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    Norton
Yes, I'm able to do that.
Just can't make it the default like I want...
 

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    Windows 11
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    Intel Core i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz [6 Cores]
    Motherboard
    HP 83EC - KBC Version 07.D4.00
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    64 Gb
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Synaptics HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" LG
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    (2) 1 TB
    Internet Speed
    25 Mb/s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Laptop 17-cp3005dx
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7430U with Radeon Graphics, 2.3 Ghz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    HP 8D6B ver. 5908
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon Graphics (integrated in mother board)
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Internal Display
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    1920x1080 60 Hz
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    USB Attached SCSI (USAS) Mass Storage Device (1 TB)
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If I go to Settings>Apps>Apps & Features --------- Classic Paint is on that list.
But all I can do from there is uninstall it...
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
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    HP ProDesk 600 G4 MT
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz [6 Cores]
    Motherboard
    HP 83EC - KBC Version 07.D4.00
    Memory
    64 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Synaptics HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" LG
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    (2) 1 TB
    Internet Speed
    25 Mb/s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Laptop 17-cp3005dx
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7430U with Radeon Graphics, 2.3 Ghz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    HP 8D6B ver. 5908
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon Graphics (integrated in mother board)
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Internal Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    USB Attached SCSI (USAS) Mass Storage Device (1 TB)
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    Defender
I tried restarting my PC to see if that would make it show on "the list" (after just downloading the program).
Didn't make any difference.
I also tried looking for the program in the Microsoft Store -- it's not there.
Probably because Microsoft doesn't want to enable us to easily use retired versions of their software...
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ProDesk 600 G4 MT
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz [6 Cores]
    Motherboard
    HP 83EC - KBC Version 07.D4.00
    Memory
    64 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Synaptics HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" LG
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    (2) 1 TB
    Internet Speed
    25 Mb/s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Laptop 17-cp3005dx
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7430U with Radeon Graphics, 2.3 Ghz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    HP 8D6B ver. 5908
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon Graphics (integrated in mother board)
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Internal Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    USB Attached SCSI (USAS) Mass Storage Device (1 TB)
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender
In Googling possible solutions, I looked for articles that discussed doing reg edits to add programs on "the list".
I found a few things but nothing that seemed instructive enough that I felt comfortable trying it...
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ProDesk 600 G4 MT
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz [6 Cores]
    Motherboard
    HP 83EC - KBC Version 07.D4.00
    Memory
    64 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Synaptics HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" LG
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    (2) 1 TB
    Internet Speed
    25 Mb/s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Laptop 17-cp3005dx
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7430U with Radeon Graphics, 2.3 Ghz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    HP 8D6B ver. 5908
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon Graphics (integrated in mother board)
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Internal Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    USB Attached SCSI (USAS) Mass Storage Device (1 TB)
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender
I ended up figuring out how to solve this myself, thanks to Fix #6 on this webpage:

thegeekpage.com

Fix File Type Association Error in Windows 10 / 11

File Type Association is a relationship between a set of the same types of files and an application, such that this particular type of file will be opened with
thegeekpage.com thegeekpage.com

The instruction I entered at the Command Prompt was:

ftype jpegfile="C:\Windows\System32\mspaint1.exe" "%1"

It shows up on "the list" as merely "Paint", but it has the classic icon.
The current MS Paint is also on the list with the current icon.
I was a little worried that I would have to enter the ftype command every time I logged in.
But when I shut down and restarted, everything was still there.
Passing this info along in case it helps someone else along the way...
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ProDesk 600 G4 MT
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz [6 Cores]
    Motherboard
    HP 83EC - KBC Version 07.D4.00
    Memory
    64 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Synaptics HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" LG
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    (2) 1 TB
    Internet Speed
    25 Mb/s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Laptop 17-cp3005dx
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7430U with Radeon Graphics, 2.3 Ghz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    HP 8D6B ver. 5908
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon Graphics (integrated in mother board)
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Internal Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    USB Attached SCSI (USAS) Mass Storage Device (1 TB)
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender
Just for completeness, I previously used regedit to try to change the file association list for jpg's

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\

Under the jpg folder, I added a new dword with the next letter in the list and the program I wanted to add..
This did not work, but I didn't remove this registry change...
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ProDesk 600 G4 MT
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz [6 Cores]
    Motherboard
    HP 83EC - KBC Version 07.D4.00
    Memory
    64 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Synaptics HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" LG
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    (2) 1 TB
    Internet Speed
    25 Mb/s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Laptop 17-cp3005dx
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7430U with Radeon Graphics, 2.3 Ghz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    HP 8D6B ver. 5908
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon Graphics (integrated in mother board)
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Internal Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    USB Attached SCSI (USAS) Mass Storage Device (1 TB)
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender
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