I think my problem is a Hard Drive? Thoughts?


CalypsoArt

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Recently, when working and saving to an internal m.2 DATA drive (D) my machine will hang. Most times when I try to reboot it hangs. Shutting down and restarting again. it usually halts with the message of a bad shutdown and suggests going into the BIOS. I go in, then exit, and the machine again starts normally. However, I notice sometimes problems with accessing the D drive. (no problems with other disks) I'm now trying to copy the files on this disk to an external backup. I can do it for a while, but often if I try to copy a large amount the copy function hangs the D drive becomes inaccessible and Explorer hangs. However, I can keep workings on other things. Could this be a Heat problem? The machine runs usually is running between 50-70c degrees.

I feel like this copying problem is an intermittent D drive, the same when Startup trying to access it and failing. Usually, If I shut down and walk away for a good while, when I start again it works till explorer hangs with a file transfer to D. Assuming I'm right, could this be some sort of corruption and a Windows format of the drive would salvage it? Or is this a deteriorating drive that should be replaced? I haven't gone into this machine (or any other) since I built it a couple yeas ago, and with liquid cooling I'm loathe to disassemble it again. Of course, If that's the only option...

Disk management shows:
Disk 0 (D) 1TB Healthy (Basic Data partition)
Disk 1 (C) 1TB Windows. Everything Healthy.
Disk 2 (E) 500 GB Healthy (Basic Data partition)

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I'm kind of curious which slot you have the NVMe drives in? You typed Disk 0 is D: while Disk 1 is C:. I'm going to have to assume Disk 0 should be slot M2_1 while Disk 1 should be M2_2. While looking at the manual/tech specs for that board they appear to be mixed as far as which slot is which. M2_1 should be the front slot and is supported by the Processor and uses Processor lanes. M2_2 should be the back slot and is supported by the Chipset lanes. However depending on which part of the tech specs one is reading they appear different.

It's possible the M2 slot on the back side of the motherboard may be getting too hot. You can use a utility like CPUID Hardware monitor to view the temps of the drives to see if one is getting too hot.

It's sometimes hard to tell how the motherboards identify which Disk #/position the drives are in but IMO the boot drive should be in the slot associated with the CPU, while the secondary(data) drive should be in the slot supported by the Chipset.
 

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I'm kind of curious which slot you have the NVMe drives in? You typed Disk 0 is D: while Disk 1 is C:. I'm going to have to assume Disk 0 should be slot M2_1 while Disk 1 should be M2_2. While looking at the manual/tech specs for that board they appear to be mixed as far as which slot is which. M2_1 should be the front slot and is supported by the Processor and uses Processor lanes. M2_2 should be the back slot and is supported by the Chipset lanes. However depending on which part of the tech specs one is reading they appear different.

It's possible the M2 slot on the back side of the motherboard may be getting too hot. You can use a utility like CPUID Hardware monitor to view the temps of the drives to see if one is getting too hot.

It's sometimes hard to tell how the motherboards identify which Disk #/position the drives are in but IMO the boot drive should be in the slot associated with the CPU, while the secondary(data) drive should be in the slot supported by the Chipset.
Thanks for the reply. If I remember correctly, I put in another Drive soon after the build, however it's now set up as is because I did not want to take the mobo out to access the lower slot which already had a drive. Still, the machine worked fine as is till recently. Also, all the drives in the machine are m.2

I am using Coretemp to read the processor temps listed above in my post, but I have no software giving me drive temps. I'll look into CPUID and see what it says. Thanks again.
 

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Also, all the drives in the machine are m.2
There are only 2 M.2 slots on this motherboard yet your stats show 3 drives? Disk 0, Disk 1 and Disk 2.
 

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Disk 0 should always ideally be C: afaik
 

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Disk 0 should always ideally be C: afaik
It does not matter. The numbering is just a logical ordering for Windows but has no influence on what drive is used for what purpose.
 

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Disk 0 should always ideally be C: afaik
It depends. On a motherboard with a SATA drive connected it will typically be Disk 0 even though it might also have M.2 drives connected. If NO Sata drives are connected then the M.2 drives will show as Disk 0, Disk 1, etc. The other question is which M.2 drive will show as Disk 0 and how is that order determined?
 

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Disk 0 should always ideally be C: afaik
Not necessarily, and it depends on how the BIOS enumerates them. With my Gigabyte board, the first NVME was Drive 0, until I put a SATA SSD in, that became Drive 0 and the NVME became Drive 1. The SATA ports get enumerated first on my board.
 

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