Image software


For troubleshooting, backup/restore and Windows 11 installation all you need is a couple of USB flash drives with Ventoy installed and the appropriate ISOs. One USB in MBR for Legacy BIOS booting and one in GPT for UEFI booting. You can then copy additional drivers and utilities in each USB.
In the vast majority of cases, just a single USB flash drive will already be enough. The last time when I used MBR for booting on one of my own laptops was over a whole decade ago.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
As a Computer Technician I need both to serve current and older systems. Also most refurbished computers are Legacy BIOS. Even if they also support UEFI boot, many have a Legacy BIOS installation.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5472), 24H2 (4484)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.4484)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
I came here to post a Query similar to the OP but decided to jump in on this one. I've had Acronis and currently am using an outdated/unsupported license of Macrium 7. I don't know if I paid for it ot if it's the free version. I also have and intend to keep current MSFT Office 365. I recently purchased a new computer with W11 (big mistake but that's another story). Anyway, I do want tp protect my digital stuff.

I have several HDDs (another mistake) and am in the process of consolidating and removing the bloat. I'm considering upgrading Macrium to the latest current version. I haven't considered cost or if there's a break for current licensed users. I've read that annti-virus software is largely unnecessary because native Windows AV has gotten prretty good and i'm wondering if the same holds true for backup software. But I need to make a decision because my backups are monthly to be performed at the first of the month.

Not sure where I'm going with all this but I'll continue to monitor this thread.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Device name CyberPowerPC
    CPU
    13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-13400F 2.50 GHz
    Memory
    32.0 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Gforce RTX 4060
    Hard Drives
    2 TB ADATA Legend 800 Gold SSD and several HDDs
    PSU
    650W
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Windows 11 23H2 10.0.26100 Build 26100
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home 22H2 19045.4123
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer_Desktop
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz 3.60 GHz
    Memory
    32.0 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Gforce GTX 745
    Sound Card
    ONN24
    Hard Drives
    Many
    Keyboard
    JLAB supports 2 computers/monitors
    Mouse
    Acer wired USB
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Only what W10 installed
    Other Info
    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Well many still use V7 quite happily. If it ain't broke don't fix it is a reasonable philosophy here.

You can still download V8 free version, still supported to end of this year but no fearure updates. Search this forum for a link.

There are many good free alternatives e.g. Hasleo Backup, Aomei backupper, Easeus Todo.

They are all pretty similar in GUI and reliability.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
I disagree - to a point.

I agree that a snapshot is NOT a backup. However, a backup that is taken that is based upon a snapshot is perfectly reliable.

Before a snapshot is taken, Windows stops all data from being written to the ACTIVE filesystem and flushes any writes that are in flight to give you a consistent point in time. Only then is the snapshot taken and the backup is then in turn based upon the contents of the snapshot which remain consistent and do not change during the entire duration of the backup.

I'm giving the highly simplified version here, because there is actually a lot more involved. For databases, mail servers, etc., those types of programs are VSS aware and take special actions when VSS is preparing to take a snapshot so that those applications can guarantee consistency down to the individual transaction, but that's a complicated topic that we don't need to go into here.

So, while a snapshot is not a backup by itself, a snapshot can allow you to create a reliable, consistent snapshot.

Please be aware that I am making the assumption that everything is working properly. As with everything else, things can break. But then again, things can break even if you are doing a backup where the OS is not even running. Nothing is perfect :-)
Commercial servers etc -- have loads of logs. If backup or recovery is needed then the logs are just "replayed". Pretty well all commercial systems that use large (or even huge) databases from SAP HANA to any sort of MySQL servers and multi-user distributed databases use this type of approach. VSS isn't of much help in these sorts of cases.

I doubt whether VSS on a multi volume distributed database would even be possible-- at least not without adding a huge amount of complexity. Of course multi-site operation is done as well so an operator can switch to the alternate very quickly in the case of any hardware error. In the case of a data error or a hack this is much harder to decide to switch systems because the data error / hack might have been replicated on all the systems.

Replaying logs is the usual commercial approach for data recovery.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,10,11 Linux (Fedora 42&43 pre-release,Arch Linux)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
    Screen Resolution
    4KUHD X 2
Remember you can put portable apps on Ventoy. Disk Genius ISO would not boot from Ventoy but once Ventoy has booted, you can run apps like Disk Genius
I recently discovered Disk Genius would not work with Ventoy. It has something do do with creating the ISO file. The bootable flash made from within Disk Genius does boot and works fine. Any further thoughts on making an ISO file?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro Version 24H2 (build 26100.4351)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo 30BFS44D00 ThinkStation P520
    CPU
    3.70 gigahertz Intel Xeon W-2135
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 1036 NO DPK
Just save the DiskGenius folder onto the Ventoy partition and it will run fine after you boot the Ventoy USB.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.4484
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Just save the DiskGenius folder onto the Ventoy partition and it will run fine after you boot the Ventoy USB.
When you make the bootable flash, it has several folders and not a single ISO file (15 items). It also has a folder called EFI. I copied everything to the Ventoy drive, and now plan to reboot for testing. Thank you for your assist.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro Version 24H2 (build 26100.4351)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo 30BFS44D00 ThinkStation P520
    CPU
    3.70 gigahertz Intel Xeon W-2135
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 1036 NO DPK
@Digidoc

I knew a guy that was one of the three that started the company... Digidoc. :-)


And here's ten points for filling out your computer specs.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.4652 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 5002)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
When you make the bootable flash, it has several folders and not a single ISO file (15 items). It also has a folder called EFI. I copied everything to the Ventoy drive, and now plan to reboot for testing. Thank you for your assist.
To continue: Ventoy boots and sees the single payload of Disk Genius. It also sees the EFI file inside the folder. But here it fails. Something else needs edited. Perhaps the EFI parameters? I am lost here and need further help. (Note, I also have mild dementia and cannot always think clearly. Please forgive me). Do you have further ideas?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro Version 24H2 (build 26100.4351)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo 30BFS44D00 ThinkStation P520
    CPU
    3.70 gigahertz Intel Xeon W-2135
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 1036 NO DPK
Why not boot Sergei Strelec WinPE or other WinPE and run Disc Genius from there?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5472), 24H2 (4484)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.4484)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Why not boot Sergei Strelec WinPE or other WinPE and run Disc Genius from there?
I was fast deciding that very thing. I just discovered Hiren's with 11PE includes Disk Genius as one of the tools already installed. It is ver 5. Thanks for the suggestion.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro Version 24H2 (build 26100.4351)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo 30BFS44D00 ThinkStation P520
    CPU
    3.70 gigahertz Intel Xeon W-2135
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 1036 NO DPK
Can someone plz recommend a good imaging s/w which is easy to use? I have acronis but find it to be a little slow.

Thx
try MultiDrive, it's a free tool, quite easy to use, backup in .raw and .zip formats. but be aware it does sector-by-sector backup, so it takes some time. You can pause and resume it later.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1265U 1.80 GHz
    Memory
    32.0 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    128 MB Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
Boot into Ventoy, launch any ISO and then run DiskGenius.exe from The DG folder you copied from your C drive.

I have tested this. It works.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.4484
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot

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