Solved Is this a bug? File Explore: memory of image assoc 1st audio file viewed overrides images assoc subsequent files viewed.

RDG · Oct 3, 2024

The following images show what happens when viewing audio files. The image associated with an audio file shows in the Preview pane. When I open the folder for a different audio file, the image associated with the previous file continues to be displayed. No matter what folder or file I open, this same image will continue to be displayed. Closing and opening File Explorer erases that image and the correct image for the other file/folder can be seen, but then this image will remain in memory as was the case in the first instance. This was not a problem in Win7 however it was during the brief period I used my old computer after upgrading to Win10. I thought perhaps it had been caused by using various "fixes" to restore the function of old Explorer but I have not attempted those fixes with Win11. Apologies that this duplicates my previous post but I could not find a way to edit it. Thanks

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RDG · Oct 6, 2024

Not a bug. With Win7 I had likely used a Power Toy to enable playing audio and video file in File Explorer. When I discovered this was missing in Win11 (and Win10) I searched for a means to enable it. Installation of Windows Media Player Legacy was the solution for audio. Because this did not create problems in Win7, it had not occurred to me that it could. Unfortunately, it caused the problem I thought must be a Win11 bug. Removed Windows Media Player Legacy via Control Panel "Turn Windows features on or off".

dacrone · Oct 6, 2024

if you want that enabled, it may work with OldExplorer. this app is trusted, as it was developed by a regular here

GitHub - LesFerch/OldExplorer: Launch Windows 10 Explorer on Windows 11

Launch Windows 10 Explorer on Windows 11. Contribute to LesFerch/OldExplorer development by creating an account on GitHub.

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@LesFerch may know for sure if that will work on his explorer

RDG · Oct 6, 2024

@dacrone I think I used OldExplorer on my old PC which I upgraded to Win10. The name was similar, anyway. If it was that, then Windows Mediat Player Legacy cause the identical problem. I wish I still had the Power Toy, which is my best guess for the source. Power Toys provided some great utilities for Win7 and I briefly installed them on my new PC before reading they were not updated and monitored so not trustworthy. I don't recall if I searched to see if there was still a utility that would enable playing audio/video files in File Explorer, but if those in the know say not to use Power Toys then folks like me are at least smart enough to listen. Now, if I had that old Power Toy saved somewhere, I'm sure I would be tempted!

dacrone · Oct 6, 2024

there's oldnewexplorer, which is a product made by the same developer as startallback

OldNewExplorer 1.1.9

msfn.org

and there is oldexplorer that i mentioned. oldexplorer runs on the CLSID of the explorer shell with a ribbon. you can try it and if it works, it works. if not, no harm. it is its own exe, so it wont interfere with windows 11 explorer either way

RDG · Oct 6, 2024

@dacrone, if I give it a try I'll let you know how it goes. "oldnewexplorer? sounds more like what I used. I'm trying NOT to be tempted, but now you do have me wondering.

dacrone · Oct 6, 2024

no worries. just info for you. oldnewexplorer is no longer being updated as the developer has moved fully to StartAllBack

StartAllBack for Windows 11

Introducing StartAllBack: an app to fix all Windows 11 UI issues! Restore taskbar functionality - Drag and drop, different icon sizes, different screen sides, widgets, new icons, old flyouts, oh my! Restore context menus - Win32 menus were never this sexy! Fix Windows Explorer - Ribbon UI and Com...

msfn.org

OldExplorer is 100% functional and still being maintained.

RDG · Oct 6, 2024

Because of my false belief that the program I used in Win10 to recapture the start menu function of Win7 might be the cause of the problems, despite reading good things about StartAllBack, I decided to accept Win11 as it was. Can't say I love the look but at least it allowed use of folders in the start menu so that I could group apps, despite not being able to really customize it. Thanks for all the info. I really appreciate it.

LesFerch · Oct 7, 2024

dacrone said:
if you want that enabled, it may work with OldExplorer. this app is trusted, as it was developed by a regular here

Unfortunately, the problem persists regardless of which Explorer flavor is used. The issue is with the legacy WMP preview handler (wmprph.exe) and occurs on Windows 10 as well. Here's a discussion about it from 2018:

File Explorer Preview Pane and Music Media - displays same cover art for all artists

I couldn't find any fix or any similar preview handler that shows the album art and provides playback controls directly in the preview pane. All of the tools I tested, such PowerToys Peek, open a separate playback window.

RDG · Oct 7, 2024

@LesFerch, thanks for checking it out. I had a feeling it wouldn't work. Maybe someone will develop a new Power Toy providing that that function that will work in Win11 (& 10). It was also handy for viewing doorbell camera footage I had saved. I must say that I'm happy with the incredible speed of programs and browsers in Win11 on my ThinkCenter which makes the losses more bearable. I haven't completely adjusted to the absence, however. Today I opened a folder with an mp3 file in it and stared at it, puzzled for a minute, trying to make sense of what to do with it and realized I was "missing" the play button in the Preview Pane!

dacrone · Oct 7, 2024

not what you wanted, but an option for you - QuickLook is like macOS.. press spacebar to preview/play files without launching their associated app(s)

GitHub - QL-Win/QuickLook: Bring macOS “Quick Look” feature to Windows

Bring macOS “Quick Look” feature to Windows. Contribute to QL-Win/QuickLook development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

Files UWP Explorer does still play media files in the preview pane, if you're interested

GitHub - gave92/files-uwp: "More than just a rewrite of Windows Explorer"

"More than just a rewrite of Windows Explorer". Contribute to gave92/files-uwp development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

^i'd use the classic installer (exe), not the store installer

RDG · Oct 7, 2024

@dacrone Do you think Win/QuickLook would work with Win11? I see this comment about downloading from the Microsoft Store (Windows 10 users only, no preview in open/save-dialogs available). Not sure what that means.

dacrone · Oct 7, 2024

quicklook definitely works on win 11. im running it and have been for years. it just sits in the system tray and you click any file and press space bar to load it/preview it

RDG · Oct 7, 2024

@dacrone That sounds awesome. I'm going to give it a try. I'm sure it will take me some time to get the hang of it as I'm not a mac user. Thanks!

RDG · Oct 7, 2024

@dacrone IT WORKS! I am thrilled. Thank you so much! And you, too @LesFerch. I'm so grateful for this community and the help it provides.

dacrone · Oct 7, 2024

awesome. glad it does what you need!

RDG · Oct 7, 2024

@dacrone Win/QuickLook also is SO, SO much better than Adobe Acrobat for viewing PDFs. I just couldn't justify buying any of the Adobe products I once had through my employer as I really do very little with it now other than produce pdf's for ease of sharing with others and I can do that with MS Word. Adobe Acrobat is a real pain and I can now happily delete it!

dacrone · Oct 7, 2024

What are good PDF editors, besides Adobe Acrobat Pro?

This is a PDF supplied by someone else so I couldn't recreate it from scratch if I understand what you are saying since there would be no point for a PDF editor if one was doing it from scratch anyways. https://www.snapfiles.com/get/pdfreplacer.html...

www.elevenforum.com

good. i also posted links to some free pdf tools here. acrobat isnt necessary for any pdf task really. its more of just an all-in-one convenience these days

dacrone · Oct 7, 2024

also fyi:

Directory Opus

Directory Opus - GPSoftware

Directory Opus - the world's best file manager

www.gpsoft.com.au

and

xplorer2 (took me a bit to figure out how to configure it to properly look like win10 file explorer at first)

xplorer² file manager for 64 bit Windows OS (7/8/10, Vista and XP 64)

Special native 64 bit build of the xplorer² file manager for 64 bit windows, integrating with 64 bit shell and namespace extensions

www.zabkat.com

both have the functionality you wanted. neither are free though. ~$30, but have free trials if you're interested.

RDG · Oct 7, 2024

@dacrone I really worked hard customizing the Win10 start menu to make it tolerable but the popup to power off or restart was hard for me to see and use and drove me crazy. Win11's start menu may not be customizable in the way I would have wished, but grouping my apps in folders has made it useable and I've adjusted to it. It's good enough and I really like the placement of the power button. Now, with Win/Quicklook I'm also happy with File Explorer. Indeed, I'm just plain happy with my computer and Win11 thanks to help and guidance I've received. It was not an easy transition from my old ThinkPad and Win7 but it sure is an improvement and with Win/Quicklook, I'm able to work with with files with ease once again.

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