Insider KB5008918 CU Windows 11 Insider Preview Dev Build 22509.1011 - Dec. 3


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UPDATE 12/8: Windows 11 Insider Preview Dev Build 22518 (rs_prerelease) - Dec. 8

UPDATE 12/3: We are starting to roll out Cumulative Update Build 22509.1011 (KB5008918). This update does not include anything new and is designed to test our servicing pipeline for builds in the Dev Channel.

Some Insiders may encounter an error (an 800F0823 error is shown under update history) trying to install this Cumulative Update. A subsequent retry of installing this Cumulative Update is expected to complete successfully.



Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22509 to the Dev Channel.

TL;DR

  • This build includes a set of improvements that make browsing the web in Microsoft Edge with Narrator easier.
  • This build includes a good set of improvements including new layout options for Start, clock and date will now show on secondary monitors, and Settings changes.

What’s new in Build 22509

Browsing the web in Microsoft Edge with Narrator is now easier

We have been working on a collection of improvements to web browsing with Microsoft Edge and Narrator. Specifically, typing in edit fields should now be faster, when navigating around the web more useful information is provided, and lastly you will have a more consistent navigation experience with Narrator.

Narrator Home in Windows 11.
Narrator Home in Windows 11.

We have made it easier to type in edit fields, such as the address bar, because Narrator scan mode will now turn off faster. Specifically, if you press Ctrl + L to jump to the address bar, you should be able to start typing immediately because scan mode will turn off sooner. This improvement will also help when filling in form fields such as typing your name and address in different edit boxes. In addition to making it easier to type into edit fields, we have also made it easier to delete in edit fields. Narrator will now read the character that the cursor position is at after a character has been deleted. In other words, if the cursor is on the “h” of “hello” and you press delete, Narrator will speak “e”.

You will also get more contextual information when navigating around the web. For example, required radio buttons and edit fields will now be read out as required, and more information about lists including list levels and accurate list indices will now be read out.

In addition to getting more information read out, you will have a more consistent navigation experience with Narrator. This includes improvements in heading navigation, a more consistent scan mode navigation experience where scan mode is less likely to loop between items, and a more consistent hyperlink reading experience when navigating forwards and backwards.

Thank you for all the feedback on the Narrator with Edge experience that you have sent in. These improvements were made based on your feedback. Please continue to send us feedback with Windows + F.

NOTE: Microsoft Edge version 97.0.4683.0 or higher is required to take advantage of these improvements on Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22509 and higher.

Changes and Improvements

  • Starting in this build, you can right-click on Start to quickly access Start settings and choose the “More pins” or “More recommendations” layout option to show an extra row of either pins or recommendations, respectively.

You can now configure Start to show more pins or more recommendations based on your preference.
You can now configure Start to show more pins or more recommendations based on your preference.
  • When a secondary monitor is connected, your clock and date will now also be displayed on the taskbars of the secondary monitor or monitors for glanceability. [We are beginning to roll this change out, so it isn’t available to all Insiders just yet as we plan to monitor feedback and see how it lands before pushing it out to everyone.]
  • For apps that send notifications for calls, reminders, or alarms that leverage Windows notifications in the OS, 3 high priority notifications will now be shown as stacked and shown at the same time. This means at any given time, you might see up to 4 notifications at the same time – 3 high priority notifications and one normal priority notification. [We are beginning to roll this change out, so it isn’t available to all Insiders just yet as we plan to monitor feedback and see how it lands before pushing it out to everyone.]
  • As part of our ongoing effort to bring over settings from Control Panel into the Settings app:
    • We have moved the advanced sharing settings (such as Network discovery, File and printer sharing, and public folder sharing) to a new page in Settings app under Advanced Network Settings.

    • We’ve made some updates to the device specific pages under Printers & Scanners in Settings to show more information about your printer or scanner directly in Settings when available.
    • Some of the entry points for network and devices settings in Control Panel will now redirect to the corresponding pages in Settings.
  • Added a new option to the Installed Apps page in Settings to sort the list from Name (Z to A), and accordingly, updated the previous “Alphabetically” option to now be called Name (A to Z).
  • We’ll now remember if you turn on Bluetooth or Wi-Fi while in airplane mode. Next time you use airplane mode, the radios will reflect your preference and stay on to make it easier to keep listening to headphones and remain connected while travelling.
  • Windows Sandbox now supports reboot inside of its virtualized environment (for example, if you were to click the Restart option under the Power button in Start).

Fixes

[Taskbar]
  • The Start, Search, Task View, Widgets, and Chat icons in the Taskbar should no longer be unexpectedly large when the system scaling is set to 125%.
  • Pressing the Windows key plus (the number corresponding to an app icon’s position in the Taskbar) should cycle now through the app’s windows if you repeatedly press the number instead of stopping at the last window.
  • When Narrator focus is set to the Task View button and the Desktops flyout appears, Narrator will now let you know information about the Desktops.
  • Fixed an explorer.exe crash some Insiders were experiencing in recent flights related to updating badges in the Taskbar.
[Input]
  • Handwriting should be working again now when the language is set to Chinese.
  • Mitigated an issue related to the mouse that was causing some Insiders to experience a bugcheck during hibernation sometimes in recent flights (making it appear as if the computer had rebooted).
  • Updated the Chinese Simplified IME candidates to be center aligned with the candidate window height has been customized.
  • Fixed touch keyboard invocation in PowerShell so it should work now.
[Windowing]
  • Hovering your mouse back and forth between different desktops in Task View will no longer result in the displayed thumbnails and content area unexpectedly shrinking.
  • CompactOverlay should be working again in this build (aka the option that some apps use to create a small always on top window).
  • Fixed a race condition that was causing explorer.exe to crash sometimes when closing a snap group of 3 or more windows in Task View.
  • Removed the unexpected tilt animation when clicking down on a corner of the New Desktop button.
  • Made a tweak to address an underlying issue that was causing the context menu to animation down to the mouse instead of away from the mouse when right clicking a Desktop in Task View.
  • Fixed a high hitting DWM crash in recent flights.
[Settings]
  • Fixed some overlapping text for certain languages on the Installed Apps page in Settings.
  • Clicking the Uninstall button when using the Installed Apps page in grid view will now show a confirmation dialog.
  • Changed the new ms-settings:installed-apps URI to now be ms-settings:appsfeatures, to address scenarios where existing links expect the latter to lead to the list of installed apps, for example, when selecting the App Settings option after right clicking a UWP app in Start.
[Other]
  • Fixed an issue that was causing some Insiders to see error 0x8007001f when trying to upgrade to recent Dev Channel builds.
  • Fixed an issue where some PCs are unable to install new builds, or other updates with an error code 0x80070002.
  • Fixed an issue causing some devices to roll back with error code 0xc1900101-0x4001c when installing new builds.
  • Did some work to help address an issue leading to the Wi-Fi connection getting lost after resuming from sleep.
NOTE: Some fixes noted here in Insider Preview builds from the active development branch may make their way into the servicing updates for the released version of Windows 11 that became generally available on October 5th.

Known issues

[General]
  • Users updating from Builds 22000.xxx, or earlier, to newer Dev Channel builds using the latest Dev Channel ISO, may receive the following warning message: The build you are trying to install is Flight Signed. To continue installing, enable flight signing. If you receive this message, press the Enable button, reboot the PC, and retry the update.
[Start]
  • In some cases, you might be unable to enter text when using Search from Start or the Taskbar. If you experience the issue, press WIN + R on the keyboard to launch the Run dialog box, then close it.
[Taskbar]
  • The Taskbar will sometimes flicker when switching input methods.
[Search]
  • After clicking the Search icon on the Taskbar, the Search panel may not open. If this occurs, restart the “Windows Explorer” process, and open the search panel again.

For developers

You can download the latest Windows Insider SDK at aka.ms/windowsinsidersdk.

SDK NuGet packages are now also flighting at NuGet Gallery | WindowsSDK which include:
These NuGet packages provide more granular access to the SDK and better integrate in CI/CD pipelines.

About the Dev Channel

We have moved the Dev Channel back to receiving builds from our active development branch (RS_PRERELEASE). These builds are from the earliest stage in a new development cycle with the latest work-in-progress code from our engineers. These aren’t always stable builds, and sometimes you will see issues that block key activities or require workarounds while flighting in the Dev Channel. It is important to make sure you read the known issues listed in our blog posts as we document many of these issues with each flight.

These builds are also not matched to a specific release. New features and OS improvements from these builds could show up in future Windows releases when they’re ready, and we may deliver them as full OS updates or servicing releases.

Build numbers are higher in the Dev Channel than the Windows 11 preview builds in the Beta and Release Preview Channels. You will not be able to switch from the Dev Channel to the Beta or Release Preview Channels without doing a clean install back to the released version of Windows 11 currently.

Are you not seeing any of the features listed for this build? Check your Windows Insider Settings to make sure you’re in the Dev Channel. Submit feedback here to let us know if things weren’t working the way you expected.

The desktop watermark you see at the lower right corner of your desktop is normal for these pre-release builds.

Important Insider Links

Thanks,
Amanda & Brandon


Source: Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22509


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hello enjoy finally solved error Win Update 0xc1900101 with this latest release :) everything went well :)
 

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Set default web browser for your account in build 22509. :)

 

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    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
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    Custom self build
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    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
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    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
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    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
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    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
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    Intel Wi-Fi 7 BE200 (2x2) and Bluetooth 5.4
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    Chrome and Edge
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    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
No 2nd clock appearing on my 2nd screen as of yet, It says that it will roll it out to some insiders, Feedback hub says it will be released to all on the latest dev channel but i dont have it, Anyone else bothered with it?
 

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    NZXT h510
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    CM HYPER 212 RGB
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    Razer Ornata Chroma
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    Steelseries Rival 710
And today is when I find out if Edge grabs Firefox by the throat and chokes him to death.

For explanation, I did something (no, I can't figure out what I did) to make Edge take a backseat to Firefox when searching the web from Search in the Start Menu.

Now, with this update, I'm pretty sure Edge will kick Firefox to the curb. We'll see . . .
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 22631.2861
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Motherboard
    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
    Memory
    16384 MBytes
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
    Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
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    HP
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    HP
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    Standard
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    Logitech Wave K350
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
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    500 mbps
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    Firefox
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    Windows Defender
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    That's all Folks!
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    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
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    HP
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    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
    Motherboard
    Intel
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    16 GB
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x
    Hard Drives
    SSD (512 GB)
    HDD (1 TB)
    Seagate
    PSU
    Intel i7 10th Generation
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    HP/Intel?
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
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    50 mbps
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    Firefox 90.2
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    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Headphone/Microphone Combo
    SuperSpeed USB Type-A (4 on front)
    HP 3-in-One Card Readr
    SuperSpeed USB Type-C
    DVD Writer
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe Microsoft said there won't be any December updates.
Looks like I stand corrected. :geek:
 

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    Windows 11 23H2 22631.2861
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    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
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    16384 MBytes
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    1920 x 1080
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    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
    Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
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    HP
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    Logitech M705
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    Windows Defender
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    That's all Folks!
  • Operating System
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    HP
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    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
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    Intel
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Built-in
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    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
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    1920 x
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    SSD (512 GB)
    HDD (1 TB)
    Seagate
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    Intel i7 10th Generation
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    HP
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    HP/Intel?
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps
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    Firefox 90.2
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    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Headphone/Microphone Combo
    SuperSpeed USB Type-A (4 on front)
    HP 3-in-One Card Readr
    SuperSpeed USB Type-C
    DVD Writer
And today is when I find out if Edge grabs Firefox by the throat and chokes him to death.

For explanation, I did something (no, I can't figure out what I did) to make Edge take a backseat to Firefox when searching the web from Search in the Start Menu.

Now, with this update, I'm pretty sure Edge will kick Firefox to the curb. We'll see . . .
Well, well, well . . . Links to web sites from Search still open in Firefox! Wheeeeeeeeeeee!
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 22631.2861
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Motherboard
    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
    Memory
    16384 MBytes
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
    Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
    PSU
    HP
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    Standard
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    500 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's all Folks!
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
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    HP
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    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
    Motherboard
    Intel
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    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x
    Hard Drives
    SSD (512 GB)
    HDD (1 TB)
    Seagate
    PSU
    Intel i7 10th Generation
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    HP/Intel?
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox 90.2
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Headphone/Microphone Combo
    SuperSpeed USB Type-A (4 on front)
    HP 3-in-One Card Readr
    SuperSpeed USB Type-C
    DVD Writer

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
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    PC/Desktop
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    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
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    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
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    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
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    2560x1440
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    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
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    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
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    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
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    Corsair Hydro H115i
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    Logitech wireless K800
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    1 Gbps Download and 35 Mbps Upload
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    Google Chrome
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    Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
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    Laptop
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    HP Spectre x360 2in1 14-eu0098nr (2024)
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 7 155H 4.8 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Intel Arc
    Sound Card
    Poly Studio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" 2.8K OLED multitouch
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800
    Hard Drives
    2 TB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
    Internet Speed
    Intel Wi-Fi 7 BE200 (2x2) and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving--of those who celebrate it, of course...! If you missed it somehow, let me know, and I'll email you a small slice of gnawed Turkey...:wink:

Installed 22509 with no problem--as upgrade through WU. I need/want to be able to adjust the size of the start menu--as in reduce the width by half on the screen--no can do, of course. Still no action on repositioning the taskbar--and several other things covered in the hub for the last several builds. Microsoft just seems oblivious to the Hub these days. Still cannot seem to get the desktop icon cache to work for my desktop icons (shortcuts), but Desktop OK is running fine for the purpose--still it would be nice to know what Microsoft's intentions are as to the desktop environment. No problem with media player except it seems buggy (of course.) I disable Widgets--have done so from day 1--just don't need it--seems like junk/clutter--MS trying to push Edge, again. With Widgets disabled I've never had a problem making Firefox x64 DE my default for everything--never see Edge at all--which I prefer.

The thing about the desktop environment concerns--like positioning the taskbar--is that while Microsoft has acknowledged via the Hub that a couple of thousand people have asked for Win10 taskbar flexibility to be restored to the Win11 taskbar--they don't seem to be in any hurry to fix it. Their response to the Hub collection concerning was really no response at all, imo. Didn't say a word about fixing it--didn't say they weren't. It's all so clear, isn't it?...:wink:
 

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    a cherry-picked assembly
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    AMD R9 3900X
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    x570 Aorus Master Rev 1.0, bios F38
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    4x 8GB 3733Mhz @ 1.35v
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    AMD RX-6900 XT
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    Creative Labs G6 USB External Sound device, Gaming DAC, Sound Card & Earphone AMP.. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, btw. Totally changed my opinion of external USB sound. I like!...;)
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    Philips 43" Momentum DisplayHDR 1000-certified
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    3840x2160
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    Boot: Samsung 980 Pro PCIe4 2TB NVMe| 980 Pro 500GB NVMe| ST4000DM004 S3 4TB| 8 TB Toshiba X300 S3| LG MultiDrive DVD writer
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    Corsair HX-850
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    Antec 302
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    Air courtesy Noctua
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    Non-mechanical (mechanicals are too small for my hands)
    Mouse
    Razer Basilisk V2 20k DPI
    Internet Speed
    ~450Mbps down and up!
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    Firefox x64 DE
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Sweet, trouble-free system! How I love this 6900XT! Exceeds my expectations by quite a bit, btw.
Both Dev channel PCs got through GUI update on their own, and both finished the post-GUI update likewise in 5 minutes or less. Totally painless this time. Glad of it: too busy to troubleshoot much right now...
--Ed--
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo X380 Yoga
    CPU
    i7-8650U (8th Gen/Kaby Lake)
    Motherboard
    20LH000MUS (U3E1)
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620
    Sound Card
    Integrated Conexant SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    FlexView Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 1 TB PCIe x3 NVMe SSD
    external 5TB Seagate USB-C attached HDD
    PSU
    Lenovo integrated 65W power brick
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop
    Keyboard
    Integrated Lenovo ThinkPad keyboard
    Mouse
    touchscreen, touchpad
    Internet Speed
    GbE (Spectrum/Charter)
    Browser
    all of em
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Purchased early 2019 as Windows Insider test PC
I just saw this, in the end I had to clean install using the extended menu from Rufus, where exactly is the BTSources folder? ......for future reference
C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\

It's a hidden folder created by Windows during an upgrade, either set "show hidden files & folders" in explorer or just paste that into the address bar to get there.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
update
Screenshot 2021-12-03 052131.png
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Insider Canary Ver 24H2( OS Build :26200.5001
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build Aswin😂😂👍
    CPU
    i9-9900 8C/16T Coffee Lake
    Motherboard
    MSI-B360 Gaming Pro Carbon-ATX(update bios 2D2(2021) to 2D0 (2022)
    Memory
    (2 x 8 GB) 16 GB DDR-4 @3000 Mhz Patriot Viper
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidea GTX-1060 6 GB Galax : hdmi 2.0b and Dp.14
    Sound Card
    Speaker(Realtek audio)(standby) and Lg Speaker build in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Monitors LG TV 43 inch 43NANO75TPA,(4K,60 Hz,WCG,HLG,HDR10+): Hdmi 2.0b x3
    Screen Resolution
    Desktop mode 4096 x 2160/60 Hz Active Signal Mode 4096 x 2160/60 Hz,HDR Enable: Destop Mode 4096x2160/60Hz Active Signal Mode 4096 x2160/60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    1.M2.Nvme SSD Gen 3 x4,1 TB KYO Utimate K350 (OS) with heat sink 2.M2.Nvme SSD gen 3 x 4-512 GB KYO ULTIMATE K350 with heat Sink 3. SSD SATA 500 GB WD 4.SSD SATA120 GB Kingston....5. HDD 1TB Seagate
    PSU
    650 w + 80 bronze Gamemax
    Case
    Aigo DarkFlash phantom ATX(with 8 RGB Fans(4 Front+ 2 Rear (exhaust)+ 2 bottom side) DR 12) Tempered glass -Full Tower.
    Cooling
    AIO gamemax(CPU liquid cooler) L240 RGB-Top side(exhaust)
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    logitech
    Internet Speed
    Cable LAN CAT 6 E(25 meters) ,TP-link switch adapter 5 ports 1000/1000 Mbps Download 184 Mbps Upload 98 Mbps, Intel® I219-V Gigabit LAN controller
    Browser
    edge stable
    Antivirus
    MS defender A/V
    Other Info
    This PC on second floor, GPON ONT (optic network terminal ISP term) on ist floor
    2021
    add 2 fans 120 mm in bottom side😊👍.oct
    2022
    Replace TP link switch adapter 100/100 to 1000/1000 may
    2023 jan
    detected 1 Ram 3200 Mhz Hyper X kingston problem -> replace both with patriot DDR4 3000 Mhz from ex i7-9700😁
    2023 jan
    update bios 2D2(2021) --->> 2D0 (2022)
    2023 March
    Change storage : SSD SATA ------>>>>M2.NVme SSD (OS)
    2023 April
    Change storage for OS Nvme 512GB ---->>> 1TB
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro Canary Ver 24H2 OS build :26200.5001
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Nitro AN515-54
    CPU
    Intel core i5-9300H CPU@2.4 GHz 4C/8T Coffee Lake
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer CFL , Model Octavia_CFS , Bios Version V1.33( 11/17/2020)
    Memory
    DDR4 16 GB 2 x 8 GB, 2666 Mhz Sk Hynix- Jedec 11 : CL : 20-19-19-43-61/1.2 V
    Graphics card(s)
    1. Intel graphic UHD 630 2. Nvidea Geforce GTX 1650 , 4 GB
    Sound Card
    1.Realtek Version 6.0.8929.1 2. NVIDIA Version 4.39.0.0 ( Virtual Audio Device ( Wave Extensible) (WDM)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1.M2.Nvme SSD gen 3 x 4-512 GB(OS) XPG SX8200 Pro with Heatsink 2. M2. SATA 240 GB 3. HDD 1 TB
    PSU
    Acer
    Case
    Acer
    Cooling
    Double Cooling Fans
    Mouse
    Optical mouse(FO)
    Keyboard
    1.Acer 2.Votre(wired)
    Internet Speed
    1. Cable Lan Cat 6E (25 meters) 2. Intel Wireless-AC 9560 160 Mhz 3. Realtek Gaming GBe Family cont (RJ45). TP-link switch adapter 1000/1000 Mbps Download : 187 Mbps Upload : 87 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge Stable
    Antivirus
    MS A/V
    Other Info
    This Laptop on second Floor , GPON ONT(optic network terminal ISP term ) on 1st Floor
    2022
    1. Upgraded from Windows 11 Home to Pro------May
    2. Replace TP link switch adapter 100/100 to 1000/1000→→→May
    2023
    3.Repale Storage(OS) from SATA to NVME---->> Feb
    4. ugrade ram 12 GB to 16 GB------>>>>April

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
For the past 3 dev builds there has been a white line 3/4 along the top of the taskbar, anyone else seeing this? I've not seen any reference to it as a bug at all.
TIA
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 Canary
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware M15 Ryzen Edition R6
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
    1 x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
For the past 3 dev builds there has been a white line 3/4 along the top of the taskbar, anyone else seeing this? I've not seen any reference to it as a bug at all.
TIA
Yes, I have the line as well.
Screenshot 2021-12-03 065825.jpg
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SFG14-72
    CPU
    i7-155h
    Motherboard
    Coral_MTH
    Memory
    LPDDR5X 32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Arc Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SamsungATNA40YK 11-0
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe Gen 4 M.2 SSD
    Keyboard
    Generic
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11Home(26090.1)24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Predator Triton PT516-51S
    CPU
    i7-11800H
    Motherboard
    Countryman_TLS
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    RTX 3070
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NE160QDM-NY1
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600
    Hard Drives
    WD PC SN810 512GB
    Browser
    Edge, Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
Well...this is boring... :zany:
1638533507925.png
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
Yes, I have the line as well.
View attachment 15212
Yeah i have this too, Can't remember who it was but they defended this to the hilt, Saying its not a problem and its a design choice, Even though it only happens on ONE of my two monitors xD
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    10700k@5.2
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Gaming X Z490
    Memory
    Viper Steelseries 32gb@ 3600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte 2070 Super 8GB, +200 core + 600 memory
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 4k HDR, Two 1080p Benq and Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160/2560x1440/1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Adata XPG SX8200 PRO 1tb
    Samsung EVO 870 500GB
    PSU
    Corsair RX 650
    Case
    NZXT h510
    Cooling
    CM HYPER 212 RGB
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata Chroma
    Mouse
    Steelseries Rival 710
Yeah i have this too, Can't remember who it was but they defended this to the hilt, Saying its not a problem and its a design choice, Even though it only happens on ONE of my two monitors xD
I don't know if it will work but stupid little issues like this can sometimes be fixed if you do a proper shutdown. Won't hurt to try.

shutdown.exe /s /t 05
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro & 🐥.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X509DA (FP5)
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX Vega 10 Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe 1.3
    Internet Speed
    25 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    25 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
I don't know if it will work but stupid little issues like this can sometimes be fixed if you do a proper shutdown. Won't hurt to try.

shutdown.exe /s /t 05
I tried that last night but il give it another go!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    10700k@5.2
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Gaming X Z490
    Memory
    Viper Steelseries 32gb@ 3600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte 2070 Super 8GB, +200 core + 600 memory
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 4k HDR, Two 1080p Benq and Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160/2560x1440/1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Adata XPG SX8200 PRO 1tb
    Samsung EVO 870 500GB
    PSU
    Corsair RX 650
    Case
    NZXT h510
    Cooling
    CM HYPER 212 RGB
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata Chroma
    Mouse
    Steelseries Rival 710
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