Insider KB5008918 CU Windows 11 Insider Preview Dev Build 22509.1011 - Dec. 3


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UPDATE 12/8: Windows 11 Insider Preview Dev Build 22518 (rs_prerelease) - Dec. 8

UPDATE 12/3: We are starting to roll out Cumulative Update Build 22509.1011 (KB5008918). This update does not include anything new and is designed to test our servicing pipeline for builds in the Dev Channel.

Some Insiders may encounter an error (an 800F0823 error is shown under update history) trying to install this Cumulative Update. A subsequent retry of installing this Cumulative Update is expected to complete successfully.



Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22509 to the Dev Channel.

TL;DR

  • This build includes a set of improvements that make browsing the web in Microsoft Edge with Narrator easier.
  • This build includes a good set of improvements including new layout options for Start, clock and date will now show on secondary monitors, and Settings changes.

What’s new in Build 22509

Browsing the web in Microsoft Edge with Narrator is now easier

We have been working on a collection of improvements to web browsing with Microsoft Edge and Narrator. Specifically, typing in edit fields should now be faster, when navigating around the web more useful information is provided, and lastly you will have a more consistent navigation experience with Narrator.

Narrator Home in Windows 11.
Narrator Home in Windows 11.

We have made it easier to type in edit fields, such as the address bar, because Narrator scan mode will now turn off faster. Specifically, if you press Ctrl + L to jump to the address bar, you should be able to start typing immediately because scan mode will turn off sooner. This improvement will also help when filling in form fields such as typing your name and address in different edit boxes. In addition to making it easier to type into edit fields, we have also made it easier to delete in edit fields. Narrator will now read the character that the cursor position is at after a character has been deleted. In other words, if the cursor is on the “h” of “hello” and you press delete, Narrator will speak “e”.

You will also get more contextual information when navigating around the web. For example, required radio buttons and edit fields will now be read out as required, and more information about lists including list levels and accurate list indices will now be read out.

In addition to getting more information read out, you will have a more consistent navigation experience with Narrator. This includes improvements in heading navigation, a more consistent scan mode navigation experience where scan mode is less likely to loop between items, and a more consistent hyperlink reading experience when navigating forwards and backwards.

Thank you for all the feedback on the Narrator with Edge experience that you have sent in. These improvements were made based on your feedback. Please continue to send us feedback with Windows + F.

NOTE: Microsoft Edge version 97.0.4683.0 or higher is required to take advantage of these improvements on Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22509 and higher.

Changes and Improvements

  • Starting in this build, you can right-click on Start to quickly access Start settings and choose the “More pins” or “More recommendations” layout option to show an extra row of either pins or recommendations, respectively.

You can now configure Start to show more pins or more recommendations based on your preference.
You can now configure Start to show more pins or more recommendations based on your preference.
  • When a secondary monitor is connected, your clock and date will now also be displayed on the taskbars of the secondary monitor or monitors for glanceability. [We are beginning to roll this change out, so it isn’t available to all Insiders just yet as we plan to monitor feedback and see how it lands before pushing it out to everyone.]
  • For apps that send notifications for calls, reminders, or alarms that leverage Windows notifications in the OS, 3 high priority notifications will now be shown as stacked and shown at the same time. This means at any given time, you might see up to 4 notifications at the same time – 3 high priority notifications and one normal priority notification. [We are beginning to roll this change out, so it isn’t available to all Insiders just yet as we plan to monitor feedback and see how it lands before pushing it out to everyone.]
  • As part of our ongoing effort to bring over settings from Control Panel into the Settings app:
    • We have moved the advanced sharing settings (such as Network discovery, File and printer sharing, and public folder sharing) to a new page in Settings app under Advanced Network Settings.

    • We’ve made some updates to the device specific pages under Printers & Scanners in Settings to show more information about your printer or scanner directly in Settings when available.
    • Some of the entry points for network and devices settings in Control Panel will now redirect to the corresponding pages in Settings.
  • Added a new option to the Installed Apps page in Settings to sort the list from Name (Z to A), and accordingly, updated the previous “Alphabetically” option to now be called Name (A to Z).
  • We’ll now remember if you turn on Bluetooth or Wi-Fi while in airplane mode. Next time you use airplane mode, the radios will reflect your preference and stay on to make it easier to keep listening to headphones and remain connected while travelling.
  • Windows Sandbox now supports reboot inside of its virtualized environment (for example, if you were to click the Restart option under the Power button in Start).

Fixes

[Taskbar]
  • The Start, Search, Task View, Widgets, and Chat icons in the Taskbar should no longer be unexpectedly large when the system scaling is set to 125%.
  • Pressing the Windows key plus (the number corresponding to an app icon’s position in the Taskbar) should cycle now through the app’s windows if you repeatedly press the number instead of stopping at the last window.
  • When Narrator focus is set to the Task View button and the Desktops flyout appears, Narrator will now let you know information about the Desktops.
  • Fixed an explorer.exe crash some Insiders were experiencing in recent flights related to updating badges in the Taskbar.
[Input]
  • Handwriting should be working again now when the language is set to Chinese.
  • Mitigated an issue related to the mouse that was causing some Insiders to experience a bugcheck during hibernation sometimes in recent flights (making it appear as if the computer had rebooted).
  • Updated the Chinese Simplified IME candidates to be center aligned with the candidate window height has been customized.
  • Fixed touch keyboard invocation in PowerShell so it should work now.
[Windowing]
  • Hovering your mouse back and forth between different desktops in Task View will no longer result in the displayed thumbnails and content area unexpectedly shrinking.
  • CompactOverlay should be working again in this build (aka the option that some apps use to create a small always on top window).
  • Fixed a race condition that was causing explorer.exe to crash sometimes when closing a snap group of 3 or more windows in Task View.
  • Removed the unexpected tilt animation when clicking down on a corner of the New Desktop button.
  • Made a tweak to address an underlying issue that was causing the context menu to animation down to the mouse instead of away from the mouse when right clicking a Desktop in Task View.
  • Fixed a high hitting DWM crash in recent flights.
[Settings]
  • Fixed some overlapping text for certain languages on the Installed Apps page in Settings.
  • Clicking the Uninstall button when using the Installed Apps page in grid view will now show a confirmation dialog.
  • Changed the new ms-settings:installed-apps URI to now be ms-settings:appsfeatures, to address scenarios where existing links expect the latter to lead to the list of installed apps, for example, when selecting the App Settings option after right clicking a UWP app in Start.
[Other]
  • Fixed an issue that was causing some Insiders to see error 0x8007001f when trying to upgrade to recent Dev Channel builds.
  • Fixed an issue where some PCs are unable to install new builds, or other updates with an error code 0x80070002.
  • Fixed an issue causing some devices to roll back with error code 0xc1900101-0x4001c when installing new builds.
  • Did some work to help address an issue leading to the Wi-Fi connection getting lost after resuming from sleep.
NOTE: Some fixes noted here in Insider Preview builds from the active development branch may make their way into the servicing updates for the released version of Windows 11 that became generally available on October 5th.

Known issues

[General]
  • Users updating from Builds 22000.xxx, or earlier, to newer Dev Channel builds using the latest Dev Channel ISO, may receive the following warning message: The build you are trying to install is Flight Signed. To continue installing, enable flight signing. If you receive this message, press the Enable button, reboot the PC, and retry the update.
[Start]
  • In some cases, you might be unable to enter text when using Search from Start or the Taskbar. If you experience the issue, press WIN + R on the keyboard to launch the Run dialog box, then close it.
[Taskbar]
  • The Taskbar will sometimes flicker when switching input methods.
[Search]
  • After clicking the Search icon on the Taskbar, the Search panel may not open. If this occurs, restart the “Windows Explorer” process, and open the search panel again.

For developers

You can download the latest Windows Insider SDK at aka.ms/windowsinsidersdk.

SDK NuGet packages are now also flighting at NuGet Gallery | WindowsSDK which include:
These NuGet packages provide more granular access to the SDK and better integrate in CI/CD pipelines.

About the Dev Channel

We have moved the Dev Channel back to receiving builds from our active development branch (RS_PRERELEASE). These builds are from the earliest stage in a new development cycle with the latest work-in-progress code from our engineers. These aren’t always stable builds, and sometimes you will see issues that block key activities or require workarounds while flighting in the Dev Channel. It is important to make sure you read the known issues listed in our blog posts as we document many of these issues with each flight.

These builds are also not matched to a specific release. New features and OS improvements from these builds could show up in future Windows releases when they’re ready, and we may deliver them as full OS updates or servicing releases.

Build numbers are higher in the Dev Channel than the Windows 11 preview builds in the Beta and Release Preview Channels. You will not be able to switch from the Dev Channel to the Beta or Release Preview Channels without doing a clean install back to the released version of Windows 11 currently.

Are you not seeing any of the features listed for this build? Check your Windows Insider Settings to make sure you’re in the Dev Channel. Submit feedback here to let us know if things weren’t working the way you expected.

The desktop watermark you see at the lower right corner of your desktop is normal for these pre-release builds.

Important Insider Links

Thanks,
Amanda & Brandon


Source: Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22509


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These two sites suggest that the Evaluation Copy Desktop watermark goes away by itself after a few days.
Is this true or false?


False. It wasn't on them to start with due it not being as experimental as they were in win 10, Now they have moved back to the way it used to be with the DEV builds being more experimental than they were at first so they added the watermark back, It doesn't go away.
Im not sure if any of those will work, I haven't tried personally, Aint a big deal for me but can see why people would want it removed, I just haven't looked into it. If either of those work post back please :)
 

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Personally -- just personally -- I wouldn't touch that download with a twenty-foot pole. Just sayin'.

It's the same download being offered on two sites, but one of them just redirects to the other. Hmmmm.
 

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Personally -- just personally -- I wouldn't touch that download with a twenty-foot pole. Just sayin'.

It's the same download being offered on two sites, but one of them just redirects to the other. Hmmmm.
Same here, Dan. Besides, the notification is just there and doesn't bother me at all.
 

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    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
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    That's all Folks!
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    Logitech M705
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    Logitech Wave K350
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    Firefox 90.2
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    Windows Defender
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    SuperSpeed USB Type-A (4 on front)
    HP 3-in-One Card Readr
    SuperSpeed USB Type-C
    DVD Writer
Personally -- just personally -- I wouldn't touch that download with a twenty-foot pole. Just sayin'.

It's the same download being offered on two sites, but one of them just redirects to the other. Hmmmm.
Shall i take one for the team? xD
 

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    ASUS 4k HDR, Two 1080p Benq and Samsung
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Only iff you've got a just-now image and a tested bootable restore flash.

Good luck! :crossed:crossed:crossed
 

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    i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
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    Lenovo 3132
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    32GBDDR4 @ 2666MHz
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    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
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    LG E2442
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
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    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB NVMe SSD, 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
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    Lenovo SFF
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    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
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    LogiTech M510 wireless
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    Fast (for fixed wireless!)
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    Chrome, sometimes Firefox
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    Malwarebytes Premium & Defender (working together beautifully!)
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    Lenovo 3132
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    32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHz
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    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
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    Realtek High Definition Audio onboard
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    LG FULL HD (1920x1080@59Hz)
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    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
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    Chrome
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    Malwarebytes Premium and MS Defender, beautiful together
It's just an overlay painter.
It doesn't change any system files.
It's compiled by Tihiy from StartIsBack
(It's probably against some EULA rules, though!)
 

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    ASUS VivoBook

Universal Watermark Disabler is well known and used by many.​


I used to use it all the time myself but as new dev builds are coming more frequent i stopped caring...i don't spend a lot of time just staring at my desktop so it doesnt really bother me.
 

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Watermark doesn't bother me at all, especially we get a new build every week, on average, and so a new Watermark. A funny story about the Watermark--on a fairly well-known semi-technical site, this company was advertising and selling el-cheapo versions of Windows 10 pro. I followed the link for fun, and the screenshots for the OS you were buying all had the tell-tale Windows-Insider watermarks still present!...:wink:

Fun fact of the day: Today I deleted another 8.5 GBs of erroneous log files that had accumulated in C:\Windows\Temp in just a day or so. ) See my previous post in this thread for the details.
 

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    Razer Basilisk V2 20k DPI
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    Defender
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    Sweet, trouble-free system! How I love this 6900XT! Exceeds my expectations by quite a bit, btw.
 

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Updated with no problems, but after update, the top buttons on my razer deathader mouse stopped working. They refuse to work when sett as media button - next/previous.
 

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Am I the only person who likes notepad as it was as it is simple and just works. I use notepad++ now and then for its column based editing but for simple text files, notepad was fine as is.

I do not see any point in a workover as it does not provide any real improvements of any note. We now have a new app that probably has bugs introduced whereas the old version was probably as bug free as is humanly possible.

The term "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" comes to mind.

Surely there are far more things to change rather than a mostly pointless update to notepad?
 

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    I7
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    Yep, Laptop has one.
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    16 GB
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    Integrated Intel Iris XE
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    Realtek built in
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    N/A
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    1920x1080
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    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
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    Yep, got one
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    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
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    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
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    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
AkelPad is what I use. It's a tabbed editor. And you can customize it to your liking and needs with numerous plugins.
I've been using it for years. You can install it or run it standalone (portable).


I use AkelPad daily. Here is a screenshot of what I am currently doing and all the tabs I have open doing numerous jobs.

AkelPad Screenshot.png

Once you have it set to your liking, you can save it, as everything is stored in a single folder. No Registry is needed.
 
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    Stigg's Build
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    Intel Core i9-10900X
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    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
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    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
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    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
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    Realtek ALC1220
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    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    PSU
    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata V2
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
    CPU
    Core i7-8750H
    Motherboard
    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    N/A
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Keyboard
    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
AkelPad is what I use. It's a tabbed editor. And you can customize it to your liking and needs with numerous plugins.
I've been using it for years. You can install it or run it standalone (portable).


I use AkelPad daily. Here is a screenshot of what I am currently doing and all the tabs I have open doing numerous jobs.

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Once you have it set to your liking, you can save it, as everything is stored in a single folder. No Registry is needed.
Does it autosave even unsaved content even when you did not save it and can resume it should the system crash or rebooted, etc and continue where you left off? That is one feature that Notepad++ has over Notepad other than drag and drop which Notepad does not have.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
    Internet Speed
    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender that came with Windows
The other issue that Microsoft has not yet fixed is since a few weeks ago, if you did a new install or even a repair install, Web Media Extensions in Microsoft Store would not download and update while for people who already had the update before installed on a existing system won't have the problem as Web Media Extensions was something from August 10, 2021. This is a issue reported by many in Feedback Hub.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
    Internet Speed
    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender that came with Windows
UPDATE:

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gbps Download and 35 Mbps Upload
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Spectre x360 2in1 14-eu0098nr (2024)
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 7 155H 4.8 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Intel Arc
    Sound Card
    Poly Studio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" 2.8K OLED multitouch
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800
    Hard Drives
    2 TB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
    Internet Speed
    Intel Wi-Fi 7 BE200 (2x2) and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
The other issue that Microsoft has not yet fixed is since a few weeks ago, if you did a new install or even a repair install, Web Media Extensions in Microsoft Store would not download and update while for people who already had the update before installed on a existing system won't have the problem as Web Media Extensions was something from August 10, 2021. This is a issue reported by many in Feedback Hub.
yes you right..till build 22518.1000 still like that
 

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Insider Canary ver 24H2( OS Build :26058.1400)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build Aswin😂😂👍
    CPU
    i9-9900 8C/16T Coffee Lake
    Motherboard
    MSI-B360 Gaming Pro Carbon-ATX(update bios 2D2(2021) to 2D0 (2022)
    Memory
    (2 x 8 GB) 16 GB DDR-4 @3000 Mhz Patriot Viper
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidea GTX-1060 6 GB Galax : hdmi 2.0b and Dp.14
    Sound Card
    Speaker(Realtek audio)(standby) and Lg Speaker build in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Monitors LG TV 43 inch 43NANO75TPA,(4K,60 Hz,WCG,HLG,HDR10+): Hdmi 2.0b x3
    Screen Resolution
    Desktop mode 4096 x 2160/60 Hz Active Signal Mode 4096 x 2160/60 Hz,HDR Enable: Destop Mode 4096x2160/60Hz Active Signal Mode 4096 x2160/60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    1.M2.Nvme SSD Gen 3 x4,1 TB KYO Utimate K350 (OS) with heat sink 2.M2.Nvme SSD gen 3 x 4-512 GB KYO ULTIMATE K350 with heat Sink 3. SSD SATA 500 GB WD 4.SSD SATA120 GB Kingston....5. HDD 1TB Seagate
    PSU
    650 w + 80 bronze Gamemax
    Case
    Aigo DarkFlash phantom ATX(with 8 RGB Fans(4 Front+ 2 Rear (exhaust)+ 2 bottom side) DR 12) Tempered glass -Full Tower.
    Cooling
    AIO gamemax(CPU liquid cooler) L240 RGB-Top side(exhaust)
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    logitech
    Internet Speed
    Cable LAN CAT 6 E(25 meters) ,TP-link switch adapter 5 ports 1000/1000 Mbps Download 184 Mbps Upload 98 Mbps, Intel® I219-V Gigabit LAN controller
    Browser
    edge stable
    Antivirus
    MS defender A/V
    Other Info
    This PC on second floor, GPON ONT (optic network terminal ISP term) on ist floor
    2021
    add 2 fans 120 mm in bottom side😊👍.oct
    2022
    Replace TP link switch adapter 100/100 to 1000/1000 may
    2023 jan
    detected 1 Ram 3200 Mhz Hyper X kingston problem -> replace both with patriot DDR4 3000 Mhz from ex i7-9700😁
    2023 jan
    update bios 2D2(2021) --->> 2D0 (2022)
    2023 March
    Change storage : SSD SATA ------>>>>M2.NVme SSD (OS)
    2023 April
    Change storage for OS Nvme 512GB ---->>> 1TB
  • Operating System
    Windows 11Insider canary Ver 24H2 OS build :26058.1100
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Nitro AN515-54
    CPU
    Intel core i5-9300H CPU@2.4 GHz 4C/8T Coffee Lake
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer CFL , Model Octavia_CFS , Bios Version V1.33( 11/17/2020)
    Memory
    DDR4 16 GB 2 x 8 GB, 2666 Mhz Sk Hynix- Jedec 11 : CL : 20-19-19-43-61/1.2 V
    Graphics card(s)
    1. Intel graphic UHD 630 2. Nvidea Geforce GTX 1650 , 4 GB
    Sound Card
    1.Realtek Version 6.0.8929.1 2. NVIDIA Version 4.39.0.0 ( Virtual Audio Device ( Wave Extensible) (WDM)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1.M2.Nvme SSD gen 3 x 4-512 GB(OS) XPG SX8200 Pro with Heatsink 2. M2. SATA 240 GB 3. HDD 1 TB
    PSU
    Acer
    Case
    Acer
    Cooling
    Double Cooling Fans
    Mouse
    Optical mouse(FO)
    Keyboard
    1.Acer 2.Votre(wired)
    Internet Speed
    1. Cable Lan Cat 6E (25 meters) 2. Intel Wireless-AC 9560 160 Mhz 3. Realtek Gaming GBe Family cont (RJ45). TP-link switch adapter 1000/1000 Mbps Download : 187 Mbps Upload : 87 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge Stable
    Antivirus
    MS A/V
    Other Info
    This Laptop on second Floor , GPON ONT(optic network terminal ISP term ) on 1st Floor
    2022
    1. Upgraded from Windows 11 Home to Pro------May
    2. Replace TP link switch adapter 100/100 to 1000/1000→→→May
    2023
    3.Repale Storage(OS) from SATA to NVME---->> Feb
    4. ugrade ram 12 GB to 16 GB------>>>>April
yes you right..till build 22518.1000 still like that
Wonder when it really started happening as I have dev channel running under Hyper-V on Beta channel and until I did a repair install without keeping existing data, the problem didn't exist and a clean wipe and fresh install had the same problem while I noticed on the Beta side, the last time this was updated was August 10, 2021 so maybe dev channel is using a different version but it seems like no one complained about it on feedback hub until the last month or so and I assume they are all new clean installs or repair installs without the apps and data.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
    Internet Speed
    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender that came with Windows

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