Insider KB5011563 Windows 11 Insider Beta and Release Preview Build 22000.588 - March 15

Archigos · Mar 15, 2022

I went to update to this version via Windows Update and upon reboot I got a BSOD (green) saying it couldn’t find my boot device or something like that, don’t remember… I couldn’t boot into Macrium either, so I had to factory reinstall Win10, it forced upgrade to Win11 (couldn’t stop it)… download Macrium and finally was able to get to my backup… it’s now on 5% and taking its sweet time. I’ve been at this for just shy of three hours already.

AllenChicago · Mar 15, 2022

QUESTION:

If Microsoft knows so many problems exist in Windows-11, and has "fixes" for them, why put those fixes in the BETA version of Win-1ll? Why not make the Release/Stable version of Windows-11 sport these fixes also?

I thought by being in the BETA channel, I would get mostly NEW items, like we get in the EDGE insider channel.

Maybe I should change to the DEVELOPER channel for Windows-11, like I am with EDGE, in order to get enhancement and new features? Does Windows-11 Developer Channel get new enhancements and features, and is it relatively stable?? If so, I'll switch from Beta to Developer right now.

-Allen

jeffreywen · Mar 15, 2022

BrianInEngland said:
What's the registry hack? I probably did it but can't remember...

Please check with Windows store and defender, MS will ban them (apps) to update.

Bree · Mar 15, 2022

AllenChicago said:
Does Windows-11 Developer Channel get new enhancements and features....

Yes it does, but MS specifically say the Dev channel is experimental: "The Dev Channel receives builds that represent long lead work from our engineers with features and experiences that may never get released as we try out different concepts and get feedback. ... features included may change over time, be removed, or replaced in Insider builds or may never be released beyond Windows Insiders to general customers".

AllenChicago said:
and is it relatively stable??

Not particularly, until the current build a right-click on Start would crash Explorer.

Microsoft said:
Known issues
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[Taskbar]

If you right click on the Start icon in this build or press WIN + X, explorer.exe will likely crash. Please use CTRL + Shift + Esc for the time being if you use this menu to launch Task Manager.

KB5012432 Cumulative Update Windows 11 Insider Dev Build 22567.200 - March 7

UPDATE 3/9: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/windows-11-insider-dev-build-22572-1-ni_release-march-9.5111/ UPDATE 3/7: We are starting to roll out Cumulative Update Build 22567.200 (KB5012432). This update does not include anything new and is designed to test our servicing pipeline for builds in...

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putnamca · Mar 15, 2022

Apparently, they haven't fixed the issue that prints, "We fixed an issue that", repeatedly, a disturbingly needlessly high number of times, in a single document.

PurSpyk!! · Mar 15, 2022

clam1952 said:
Knackered Event viewer here it did eventually open after half an hour.......... doesn't get any quicker though, ages to actually open the logs after restarting it or rebooting the PC
Ran SFC and Dism no problems, I can live with this for the moment as I have an alternative event viewer which is working OK.

Ok, so this update did break something then?

putnamca · Mar 16, 2022

clam1952 said:
Knackered Event viewer here it did eventually open after half an hour.......... doesn't get any quicker though, ages to actually open the logs after restarting it or rebooting the PC
Ran SFC and Dism no problems, I can live with this for the moment as I have an alternative event viewer which is working OK.

Say, "aluminum" for me, just once. Please?

markw51 · Mar 16, 2022

AllenChicago said:
QUESTION:

If Microsoft knows so many problems exist in Windows-11, and has "fixes" for them, why put those fixes in the BETA version of Win-1ll? Why not make the Release/Stable version of Windows-11 sport these fixes also?

I thought by being in the BETA channel, I would get mostly NEW items, like we get in the EDGE insider channel.

Maybe I should change to the DEVELOPER channel for Windows-11, like I am with EDGE, in order to get enhancement and new features? Does Windows-11 Developer Channel get new enhancements and features, and is it relatively stable?? If so, I'll switch from Beta to Developer right now.

-Allen

Why don't you read about it and make your own mind up? It's widely known that DEV is the EXPERIMENTAL branch of Windows with any features not guaranteed to make it to release and has an expiration date. The fixes are put into BETA/RP whereas DEV is for MS to try stuff before deciding whether to release said features to BETA/RP.

CornishRattler · Mar 16, 2022

AllenChicago said:
QUESTION:

If Microsoft knows so many problems exist in Windows-11, and has "fixes" for them, why put those fixes in the BETA version of Win-1ll? Why not make the Release/Stable version of Windows-11 sport these fixes also?

I thought by being in the BETA channel, I would get mostly NEW items, like we get in the EDGE insider channel.

Maybe I should change to the DEVELOPER channel for Windows-11, like I am with EDGE, in order to get enhancement and new features? Does Windows-11 Developer Channel get new enhancements and features, and is it relatively stable?? If so, I'll switch from Beta to Developer right now.

-Allen

As said you kinda need to read up on what the different insider channels mean. If you are frustrated with being on BETA, switch to DEV but be prepared for a whole new level of frustration on some builds. DEV is a testing platform and nothing more, it's not there for getting the latest and greatest, unless you're really into emojis that is

BrianInEngland · Mar 16, 2022

PurSpyk!! said:
Now event viewer refuses to open after updating to this version

I've had Event viewer problems since yesterday on two PCs, see this post Unexplained problem!

It's not to do with the update as the problems started before then, it seems to be linked to the Ant-Malware update yesterday.

BrianInEngland · Mar 16, 2022

clam1952 said:
Knackered Event viewer here it did eventually open after half an hour.......... doesn't get any quicker though, ages to actually open the logs after restarting it or rebooting the PC
Ran SFC and Dism no problems, I can live with this for the moment as I have an alternative event viewer which is working OK.

See my post here Unexplained problem!

clam1952 · Mar 16, 2022

BrianInEngland said:
See my post here Unexplained problem!

As now all back to normal, It looks like the Defender definition update(s) rather than the platform update as that's the only thing that has changed.
It also happened on my Win10 PCs, all had the Platform update 4.18.2202.4 on the 15th plus same definition 1.361.36.0. After today's definition update 1.361.81.0 all seems to be back to normal on all PCs, both 10 and 11.
Wild guess that if it wasn't the platform update, MS released definition updates for the previous platform in error?

My first thought was the AMD chipset update, however as two of the affected PCs were Intel, I ruled that out.

BrianInEngland · Mar 16, 2022

clam1952 said:
As now all back to normal, It looks like the Defender definition update(s) rather than the platform update as that's the only thing that has changed.
It also happened on my Win10 PCs, all had the Platform update 4.18.2202.4 on the 15th plus same definition 1.361.36.0. After today's definition update 1.361.81.0 all seems to be back to normal on all PCs, both 10 and 11.
Wild guess that if it wasn't the platform update, MS released definition updates for the previous platform in error?

My first thought was the AMD chipset update, however as two of the affected PCs were Intel, I ruled that out.

Not fixed for me, I have the 1.361.81.0 definition updates but still can't open Event viewer or Perfmon after a reboot. IN fact I have 1.161.89.0 now

krzysiek · Mar 16, 2022

has something changed after this update?

Josey Wales · Mar 16, 2022

Bree said:
Yes it does, but MS specifically say the Dev channel is experimental: "The Dev Channel receives builds that represent long lead work from our engineers with features and experiences that may never get released as we try out different concepts and get feedback. ... features included may change over time, be removed, or replaced in Insider builds or may never be released beyond Windows Insiders to general customers".

Not particularly, until the current build a right-click on Start would crash Explorer.

KB5012432 Cumulative Update Windows 11 Insider Dev Build 22567.200 - March 7

UPDATE 3/9: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/windows-11-insider-dev-build-22572-1-ni_release-march-9.5111/ UPDATE 3/7: We are starting to roll out Cumulative Update Build 22567.200 (KB5012432). This update does not include anything new and is designed to test our servicing pipeline for builds in...

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I could not use RC in this build.

Superfly · Mar 16, 2022

Archigos said:
I went to update to this version via Windows Update and upon reboot I got a BSOD (green) saying it couldn’t find my boot device or something like that, don’t remember… I couldn’t boot into Macrium either, so I had to factory reinstall Win10, it forced upgrade to Win11 (couldn’t stop it)… download Macrium and finally was able to get to my backup… it’s now on 5% and taking its sweet time. I’ve been at this for just shy of three hours already.

When you get that just set bios to defaults... Windows messes with the EFI boot

Anyway had a look for the cab on UUP (I'm not on Insider) - couldn't find it - but no worries if you have an issue with this update , I'll pass.

Zardoc · Mar 16, 2022

Superfly said:
When you get that just set bios to defaults... Windows messes with the EFI boot

Anyway had a look for the cab on UUP (I'm not on Insider) - couldn't find it - but no worries if you have an issue with this update , I'll pass.

Doesn't seem stable so far.

AllenChicago · Mar 16, 2022

Bree said:
Yes it does, but MS specifically say the Dev channel is experimental: "The Dev Channel receives builds that represent long lead work from our engineers with features and experiences that may never get released as we try out different concepts and get feedback. ... features included may change over time, be removed, or replaced in Insider builds or may never be released beyond Windows Insiders to general customers".

Not particularly, until the current build a right-click on Start would crash Explorer.

KB5012432 Cumulative Update Windows 11 Insider Dev Build 22567.200 - March 7

UPDATE 3/9: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/windows-11-insider-dev-build-22572-1-ni_release-march-9.5111/ UPDATE 3/7: We are starting to roll out Cumulative Update Build 22567.200 (KB5012432). This update does not include anything new and is designed to test our servicing pipeline for builds in...

www.elevenforum.com

Thankyou for patiently explaining that problems with the Windows-11 Developer channel are more risky than problems that occur in the Developer Channel of the Edge browser.

When I have a problem with Edge Developer version, it's not a big deal. But the weekly updates bring enhancements to the feature set. It never crashes on me.

I'll read up some more on experiences people are having with Windows-11 Developer version. Crashes of the O.S. that you speak of, sound very unpleasant.

Thanks again for the information and explanation.

-Allen in Chicago

AllenChicago · Mar 16, 2022

markw51 said:
Why don't you read about it and make your own mind up? It's widely known that DEV is the EXPERIMENTAL branch of Windows with any features not guaranteed to make it to release and has an expiration date. The fixes are put into BETA/RP whereas DEV is for MS to try stuff before deciding whether to release said features to BETA/RP.

Are you suggesting that it is inappropriate for individual members of this forum to pose a generalized question to forum members....to seek their opinion on the overall usage stability of Windows-11 Developer version?

AllenChicago · Mar 16, 2022

CornishRattler said:
As said you kinda need to read up on what the different insider channels mean. If you are frustrated with being on BETA, switch to DEV but be prepared for a whole new level of frustration on some builds. DEV is a testing platform and nothing more, it's not there for getting the latest and greatest, unless you're really into emojis that is

My "frustration" with Beta is derived from Windows-11 Beta not seeming to be any more "advanced" (with new features under the hood) than the Release Version of Windows-11 that's on my wife's computer. I keep hers up-to-date and cleaned up (ccleaner, driver updates, etc.), and see no difference between her Win-11 and my Beta Win-11.

My only concern regarding switching to Windows-11 Developer channel, is what Microsoft says about converting back to Beta or Release. That a "clean install" would be needed. I use Macrium Reflect to image my drive occasionally, but have never had to use it to do a "clean reinstall".

Thankyou for the feedback. Time to go do a little more reading up on people's experiences. Their experiences/opinions mean 1000 times more to me than the corporate explanations. This forum is/has been awesome in that regard. :clap:

-Allen

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