Win Update KB5034204 Windows 11 Cumulative Update Preview Build 22621.3085 (22H2) and 22631.3085 (23H2)


UPDATE 2/13:


 Microsoft Windows Update:

January 23, 2024 - KB5034204 (OS Builds 22621.3085 and 22631.3085) Preview​

UPDATED 2/27/24
IMPORTANT: New dates for the end of non-security updates for Windows 11, version 22H2


The new end date is June 24, 2025 for Windows 11, version 22H2 Enterprise, Education, IoT Enterprise, and Enterprise multi-session editions. Home, Pro, Pro Education, and Pro for Workstations editions of version 22H2 will receive non-security preview updates until June, 26, 2024.

After these dates, only cumulative monthly security updates will continue for the supported editions of Windows 11, version 22H2. The initial date communicated for this change was February 27, 2024. Based on user feedback, this date has been changed so more customers can take advantage of our continuous innovations.

For information about Windows update terminology, see the article about the types of Windows updates and the monthly quality update types. For an overview of Windows 11, version 23H2, see its update history page.

Note Follow @WindowsUpdate to find out when new content is published to the Windows release health dashboard.

Highlights​

  • This update addresses an issue that stops search from working on the Start menu for some users. The issue occurs because of a deadlock.
  • This update addresses an issue to make video calls more reliable.
  • This update addresses an issue that causes your device to stop responding. This is intermittent and occurs after you install a print support app.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects the File Explorer Gallery. It stops you from closing a tooltip.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects Bluetooth Low Energy (LE) Audio earbuds. They lose sound when you stream music.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects a Bluetooth phone call. It stops the audio from routing through the PC when you answer the call on your PC.

Improvements​

Note: To view the list of addressed issues, click or tap the OS name to expand the collapsible section.

Windows 11, version 23H2​

Important: Use EKB KB5027397 to update to Windows 11, version 23H2.

This non-security update includes quality improvements. Key changes include:

Windows 11, version 22H2​

This non-security update includes quality improvements. When you install this KB:
  • This update addresses an issue that affects certain types of 7-Zip files. They appear as empty in File Explorer.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects Wi-Fi Protected Access 3 (WPA3) in the Group Policy editor. HTML preview rendering fails.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI). A caching issue occurs. The issue causes CurrentTimeZone to change to the wrong value.
  • This update makes Windows more reliable during power transitions. This reduces the risk of a stop error.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects the OpenType font driver. On a certain architecture, the issue might affect how text renders for third-party applications.
  • The update addresses a known issue that affects the color font format for COLRv1. It now renders properly. Windows uses this format to display emoji with a 3D-like appearance.
  • This update addresses an issue that stops WMI from working. This occurs in certain scenarios with mobile device management (MDM) providers, such as Microsoft Intune.
  • This update addresses a known issue that affects BitLocker data-only encryption. A mobile device management (MDM) service, such as Microsoft Intune, might not get the right data. This occurs when you use the FixedDrivesEncryptionType or SystemDrivesEncryptionType policy settings in the BitLocker configuration service provider (CSP) node.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects Access Point Name (APN) profiles. It stops you from automatically configuring APN profiles for cellular enabled devices. This occurs when you run the “netsh mbn show readyinfo *” command.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects Trusted Platform Modules. On certain devices, they did not initialize correctly. Because of this, TPM-based scenarios stopped working.
  • This update includes quarterly changes to the Windows Kernel Vulnerable Driver Blocklist file, DriverSiPolicy.p7b. It adds to the list of drivers that are at risk for Bring Your Own Vulnerable Driver (BYOVD) attacks.
  • This update affects Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) Secure Boot systems. It adds a renewed signing certificate to the Secure Boot DB variable. You can now opt for this change.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects RemoteApp windows. In certain cases, they persist on client devices after you close them.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects a remote desktop client. It might connect to a wrong instance of a user's session. This occurs if a user has multiple sessions on the host.
  • This update addresses an issue that occurs when you change the keyboard language. The change fails to apply to RemoteApps in some scenarios.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects Windows Local Administrator Password Solution (LAPS) Post Authentication Actions (PAA). The actions occur at restart instead of at the end of the grace period.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects Active Directory. Bind requests to IPv6 addresses fail. This occurs when the requestor is not joined to a domain.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects the LocalUsersAndGroups CSP. It stops processing group memberships if it cannot find a group.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects Group Policy Folder Redirection in a multi-forest deployment. The issue stops you from choosing a group account from the target domain. Because of this, you cannot apply advanced folder redirection settings to that domain. This issue occurs when the target domain has a one-way trust with the domain of the admin user. This issue affects all Enhanced Security Admin Environment (ESAE), Hardened Forests (HF) or Privileged Access Management (PAM) deployments.
  • This update changes a setting in Active Directory Users & Computers. By default, the snap-in now uses a strong certificate mapping of X509IssuerSerialNumber. It does not use the weak mapping of x509IssuerSubject.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects the display of a smart card icon. The icon does not appear when you sign in. This occurs when there are multiple certificates on the smart card.
  • This update addresses an issue that causes your device to shut down after 60 seconds. This occurs when you use a smart card to authenticate on a remote system.
  • This update affects the Windows Backup app. It will no longer show on the user interface of enterprise-managed devices. To learn more, see KB5032038.
If you installed earlier updates, only the new updates contained in this package will be downloaded and installed on your device.

Windows 11 servicing stack update - 22621.3073 and 22631.3073​

This update makes quality improvements to the servicing stack, which is the component that installs Windows updates. Servicing stack updates (SSU) ensure that you have a robust and reliable servicing stack so that your devices can receive and install Microsoft updates.

Known issues in this update​

Applies toSymptomWorkaround
All usersWindows devices using more than one (1) monitor might experience issues with desktop icons moving unexpectedly between monitors or other icon alignment issues when attempting to use Copilot in Windows (in preview).This issue is addressed on the service-side for Windows 11, versions 22H2 and 23H2 on devices with updates released January 9, 2024, or later.

Note Managed devices in your environment that have been used or are currently being used in a multimonitor configuration will not yet have Copilot for Windows available.

How to get this update​

Before installing this update

Microsoft combines the latest servicing stack update (SSU) for your operating system with the latest cumulative update (LCU). For general information about SSUs, see Servicing stack updates and Servicing Stack Updates (SSU): Frequently Asked Questions.

Install this update

Release ChannelAvailableNext Step
Windows Update or Microsoft UpdateYesGo to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update. In the Optional updates available area, you’ll find the link to download and install the update.
Windows Update for BusinessNoNone. These changes will be included in the next security update to this channel.
Microsoft Update CatalogYesTo get the standalone package for this update, go to the Microsoft Update Catalog website.
Windows Server Update Services (WSUS)NoYou can import this update into WSUS manually. See the Microsoft Update Catalog for instructions.

If you want to remove the LCU

To remove the LCU after installing the combined SSU and LCU package, use the DISM/Remove-Package command line option with the LCU package name as the argument. You can find the package name by using this command: DISM /online /get-packages.

Running Windows Update Standalone Installer (wusa.exe) with the /uninstall switch on the combined package will not work because the combined package contains the SSU. You cannot remove the SSU from the system after installation.

File information

For a list of the files that are provided in this update, download the file information for cumulative update 5034204.

For a list of the files that are provided in the servicing stack update, download the file information for the SSU - versions 22621.3073 and 22631.3073.



 Source:



Check Windows Updates


Direct download links for KB5034204 MSU file from Microsoft Update Catalog:

Download KB5034204 MSU for Windows 11 v23H2 64-bit (x64) - 645.3 MB

Download KB5034204 MSU for Windows 11 v23H2 ARM64 - 768.4 MB


UUP Dump:

64-bit ISO download:

ARM64 ISO download:

 
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Tuesday patch will arrive tonight, right?
 

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    Huawei Matebook D15 Ryzen 5500U 8GB / 512 SSD, Windows 11 Home Single Language
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    Ryzen 5500U
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    Logitech K380, G15
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    Logi m350, Everest SM-620, Logitech G9, Lecoo WS210
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    Windows Security, (Alternative Eset)
Tomorrow, 10:00 AM PST. Oh yeah, maybe that's tonight in Turkey.
 

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    11 Pro 24H2 26100.2454
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    i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
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    LG E2442
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    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
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    i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz
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    Lenovo 3132
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    32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHz
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    Malwarebytes Premium and MS Defender, beautiful together

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Tuesday patch will arrive tonight, right?
That means this patch will be installed mandatorily. I hope they've fixed this problem since the preview, or Microsoft Community are going to be receiving a slew of questions about the error I mentioned from people with Xbox controllers.

Strangely enough, this update has been installed on my laptop and I have received no errors, but it's not connected to an Xbox controller.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Is this the event 201 , 202 error windows call home?

I disabled that. It's always the same thing that happens. Windows trying to reach a driver update site that won't connect.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WMI\Autologger\EventLog-System\{fcbb06bb-6a2a-46e3-abaa-246cb4e508b2}]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000
"EnableLevel"=dword:00000000
"LoggerName"="EventLog-System"
"MatchAnyKeyword"=hex(b):00,00,00,00,00,00,00,c0
"MatchAllKeyword"=hex(b):00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"EnableProperty"=dword:00000001
"Status"=dword:00000000
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Intel® Core™ i9-12900K Desktop Processor 16 (8P+8E)
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    Asus TUF Gaming Z790-PLUS WIFI D4
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    G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32gb (2x16gb) DDR4 3200mhz
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    BenQ EW3270U 31.5” 3840x2160 UHD 16:9 HDR LED 4K LG 27UK850-W 27'' 4K UHD IPS LED Monitor with HDR10
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    Samsung 990 with heatsink PRO PCIe 4.0 Gen 4 NVMe® SSD 1TB
    WD_BLACK SN850X NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 4.0
    Crucial T500 2TB Gen4
    Samsung 970 Evo M.2 2280 2tb Pcie Gen3. X4
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    Corsair AXi Series AX860i Digital 860W 80 PLUS PSU
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    Fractal Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case
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    Logi MX Keys
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    Logi M705
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    400 mbs
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    Firefox
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    Eset NOD32
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    Love fast boots

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    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
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    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
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    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
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    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
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    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gbps Download and 35 Mbps Upload
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    Google Chrome
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    Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
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    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Laptop 7 Copilot+ PC
    CPU
    Snapdragon X Elite (12 core) 3.42 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" HDR
    Screen Resolution
    2496 x 1664
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Internet Speed
    Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
TranslucentTB works with this update.
Disable File Explorer tabs, doesn't work starting with this update.

For anyone that used ViveTool to disable File Explorer tabs, you need to run these two commands to "enable" File Explorer tabs...

vivetool /enable /id:37634385,36354489
vivetool /enable /id:40729001,37634385

This has been updated...



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I wanna meet some MS employees in a dark alley somewhere.
I wanna "Personalize" them. Buahahahaha !!
Buahahaha 🤣 count me in with a dark alley, I'll hog tie them down for you and would love to get more than a few licks in myself.

Such a disheartening and unfortunate disaster with no tabs option functionality any longer. Doesn't seem to surprise me, one step forward five steps back.... Taken from the Google playbook
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell / Precision 3660 (Fixed Workstation)
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700 - 2.10 GHz
    Motherboard
    DELL 0MG0RG
    Memory
    64GB DDR5-4800 @2400 MHz - ECC
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro RTX 4000 =dGPU and Intel UHD Graphics 770 =iGPU
    Sound Card
    RealTek ALC256
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    2 x LG Ultragear 27" GSM5BB4
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 980 PRO 1TB
    PC801 NVMe SK hynix 512GB
    PSU
    Platinum 950
    Case
    SFF
    Cooling
    liquid cooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech k350
    Mouse
    Logitech m570
    Internet Speed
    1gb fiber
    Browser
    Chrome
I'll hog tie them down for you and would love to get more than a few licks in myself.


No kicking or hog-tying. Pummeling only.
We want them to "think" they have a chance. :D

Quoting Shakespeare during the pummeling is allowed...
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Microsoft, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”

Extra points if one of them is named: Horatio. :D




Seriously though, I think Microsoft is slowly but surely abandoning the home user.
We don't generate enough revenue for them, and some of us are not tech savvy.
And... MS is probably assuming we'll be happy with smart phones and smart TVs.

With corporations, MS gets deep wallets and IT tech support.
Much easier and much more profitable, from MS's point of view.
 
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    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.2454 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2
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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
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    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
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    Logitech Optical M-100
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    Firefox (latest)
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    Bitdefender Internet Security
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
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    Onboard
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    up to 2048 x 1536
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    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

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    Windows 11
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    Ryzen 3900x
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    Gigabyte Aorus Master x570 rel 1.0
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    32GB (2x16) @ 3600 MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX
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    Gigabyte Windforce RTX 2080
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    No separate sound card.
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    Dell U2718Q
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    3840x2160
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    1TB WD-Black SN850; 1TB Samsung Sata 850 Evo; 4 TB WD Blue Sata SA510 2.5''; 4TB Samsung Sata SSD 870 EVO 2.5".
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    Lian Li PC-8FIB
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    CPU: Noctua NH-U12A; Case: BeQuiet + Lian Li fans.
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    Edge (Chromium)
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    Eset Internet Security
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    Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite X1E-80-100
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    16 GB LPDDR5
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    512 GB eUFS
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    840 Mb/s (Wifi)
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    Edge Chromium
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    Eset Internet Security
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    NPU Qualcomm Hexagon
@Ghot
Thank you all for all this input and discussion regarding Fe and tabs. Just realized after spending nearly all day yesterday fixing explorer with the new updates using the switcher registry tweaks that the main reason why I want individual FE with no tabs is the darn issue with restarting Windows and having all folders load back up. I'm on the latest 23h2 on Windows 11 Pro, is this not an issue for you guys any longer? If you have multiple tabs open on an explorer window, when you restart the computer only the first tab reloads and any other separate FE windows first tab.

Furthermore, I realized after the October or November updates that explorer was not opening multiple instances or processes even when you choose the option for it to open in a new window process or have the settings for instances active. I know this for a fact because there is only one PID shown for all explorer windows. I recall previously that each new instance that was opened had its own PID. Also if memory serves me correctly, on the earlier versions of win 11 a year or two ago, you would know that a separate process and instance was actually active because you wouldn't be able to merge and drag a tab from one explorer window to merge with another process if it were actually a separate process, only like kind processes would be compatible and merge.

Am I off my rocker and tripping here...?
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell / Precision 3660 (Fixed Workstation)
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700 - 2.10 GHz
    Motherboard
    DELL 0MG0RG
    Memory
    64GB DDR5-4800 @2400 MHz - ECC
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    NVIDIA Quadro RTX 4000 =dGPU and Intel UHD Graphics 770 =iGPU
    Sound Card
    RealTek ALC256
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    2 x LG Ultragear 27" GSM5BB4
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
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    Samsung SSD 980 PRO 1TB
    PC801 NVMe SK hynix 512GB
    PSU
    Platinum 950
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    SFF
    Cooling
    liquid cooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech k350
    Mouse
    Logitech m570
    Internet Speed
    1gb fiber
    Browser
    Chrome
@Ghot
Thank you all for all this input and discussion regarding Fe and tabs. Just realized after spending nearly all day yesterday fixing explorer with the new updates using the switcher registry tweaks that the main reason why I want individual FE with no tabs is the darn issue with restarting Windows and having all folders load back up. I'm on the latest 23h2 on Windows 11 Pro, is this not an issue for you guys any longer? If you have multiple tabs open on an explorer window, when you restart the computer only the first tab reloads and any other separate FE windows first tab.

Furthermore, I realized after the October or November updates that explorer was not opening multiple instances or processes even when you choose the option for it to open in a new window process or have the settings for instances active. I know this for a fact because there is only one PID shown for all explorer windows. I recall previously that each new instance that was opened had its own PID. Also if memory serves me correctly, on the earlier versions of win 11 a year or two ago, you would know that a separate process and instance was actually active because you wouldn't be able to merge and drag a tab from one explorer window to merge with another process if it were actually a separate process, only like kind processes would be compatible and merge.

Am I off my rocker and tripping here...?
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention about the alt tab or Windows tab to scroll through open windows productivity shortcuts. You can't even utilize that with multiple tabs open and will only show the current File explorer tab you are on in the taskbar or other productivity shortcut keys I mentioned being used. This is pretty ludicrous and counterproductive. *#*# you MS
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell / Precision 3660 (Fixed Workstation)
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700 - 2.10 GHz
    Motherboard
    DELL 0MG0RG
    Memory
    64GB DDR5-4800 @2400 MHz - ECC
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro RTX 4000 =dGPU and Intel UHD Graphics 770 =iGPU
    Sound Card
    RealTek ALC256
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x LG Ultragear 27" GSM5BB4
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 980 PRO 1TB
    PC801 NVMe SK hynix 512GB
    PSU
    Platinum 950
    Case
    SFF
    Cooling
    liquid cooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech k350
    Mouse
    Logitech m570
    Internet Speed
    1gb fiber
    Browser
    Chrome
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention about the alt tab or Windows tab to scroll through open windows productivity shortcuts. You can't even utilize that with multiple tabs open and will only show the current File explorer tab you are on in the taskbar or other productivity shortcut keys I mentioned being used. This is pretty ludicrous and counterproductive. *#*# you MS



I type with three fingers and have to look at the keys.
I don't use productivity shortcuts. Well, I used to use alt + tab when playing a game full screen.
And very rarely... alt + F4 if a game locked up.
Once every decade or so... if FE breaks and I can't get into the START menu... ctrl + ESC, to open the START Menu.

I have very simple computer needs. Three keyboard shortcuts, and I'm a happy camper. :-)

I even disabled the Windows key.
 
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    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
I type with three fingers and have to look at the keys.
I don't use productivity shortcuts. Well, I used to use alt + tab when playing a game full screen.
And very rarely... alt + F4 if a game locked up.
Once every decade or so... if FE breaks and I can't get into the START menu... ctrl + ESC, to open the START Menu.

I have very simple computer needs. Three keyboard shortcuts, and I'm a happy camper. :-)

I even disabled the Windows key. :cool:
I played Diablo II for 15 years, about 14-18 hours a day.
In Diablo II, the alt key showed the items on the ground that the monsters dropped.

With eight players in the game, you definitely don't want to bump the Windows key by accident,
and have someone else pick up that high rune, or other awesome item. LOL



I mean, let's be serious. You got to have your priorities straight. :D
lol, yea, i got you. but it is just mind-boggling to think, they got "tabs" right on Edge YEARS ago, yet on FE they don't. When you go to the taskbar and hover over Edge, it will show you all open, individual, tab preview thumbnails (even if grouped) that you can choose and go to directly, yet, FE will not show you all open folders (if tabbed) that are available to go to and instead only reflect the most recent tab you had open on that FE window. heck you wouldn't even know if you have 20 tabs open in a FE which is completely asinine!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell / Precision 3660 (Fixed Workstation)
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700 - 2.10 GHz
    Motherboard
    DELL 0MG0RG
    Memory
    64GB DDR5-4800 @2400 MHz - ECC
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro RTX 4000 =dGPU and Intel UHD Graphics 770 =iGPU
    Sound Card
    RealTek ALC256
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x LG Ultragear 27" GSM5BB4
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 980 PRO 1TB
    PC801 NVMe SK hynix 512GB
    PSU
    Platinum 950
    Case
    SFF
    Cooling
    liquid cooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech k350
    Mouse
    Logitech m570
    Internet Speed
    1gb fiber
    Browser
    Chrome
lol, yea, i got you. but it is just mind-boggling to think, they got "tabs" right on Edge YEARS ago, yet on FE they don't. When you go to the taskbar and hover over Edge, it will show you all open, individual, tab preview thumbnails (even if grouped) that you can choose and go to directly, yet, FE will not show you all open folders (if tabbed) that are available to go to and instead only reflect the most recent tab you had open on that FE window. heck you wouldn't even know if you have 20 tabs open in a FE which is completely asinine!



I don't see the need for tabs, in anything but a browser.
Then again, I never really worked a desk job.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.2454 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
That's what I thought at first but now I'm used to tabs and use them for quick transfer of files, for more I still use Total Commander
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 Pro and Insider Dev
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brewed
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 7900x
    Motherboard
    ASROCK b650 PRO RS
    Memory
    2x8GB Kingston 6000MHz, Cl 32 @ 6200MHz Cl30
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Rx 6600XT Gaming OC 8G Pro
    Sound Card
    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Kingston KC3000. 1TBSamsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB, Lexar NVMe 2 TB, Silicon Power M.2 SATA 500GB
    PSU
    Seasonic 750W
    Case
    Custom Raidmax
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360mm
    Internet Speed
    20/19 mbps

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