Insider KB5040557 Windows 11 Insider Dev build 26120.1340 (24H2) - Aug. 5

Mooly · Aug 6, 2024

I tried the Restore Health options for the component store and like others found it reports as repairable, and then all OK. The Restore Health option downloaded tons and tons of files (around 5 to 6 Gb worth via Windows Update) and spent around 20 minutes installing them but the same issues remain.

Also reported was an error that the source files could not be found.

Ironically a pop up notification said 'Microsoft would like your perspective' but when I click it I was taken the Feedback Hub where the message 'The survey could not be found' greeted me.

I really don't know what to make of it all. Is the build (and the previous one) really broken in some way (because operationally it all seems fine) or is it just errors reported in things that are not really broken?

rseiler · Aug 6, 2024

In case it matters to anyone, making an Enterprise ISO is live today, when it wasn't yesterday (for me at least), so that's in progress now as it appears to be the only way past Install error - 0x80073713.

I did try the WU recovery option I mentioned earlier, and that sure would have been slick, since it does about a 3.5GB repair download of the build you're trying to get to (not the one that you're on) and then asks you to reboot. Unfortunately, that resulted in a WU error of Install error - 0xc1900101.

fg2001gf11F · Aug 6, 2024

Mooly said:
Ironically a pop up notification said 'Microsoft would like your perspective' but when I click it I was taken the Feedback Hub where the message 'The survey could not be found' greeted me.

I got that popup notification several times in different machines, and always ended up with the same message:
"The survey could not be found"

Mooly · Aug 6, 2024

So not just me then

That's good...

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OK, I have question please everybody. Having played and messed around with this build (and the previous build because of these various issues) I've restored back with Macrium to just before all this latest trouble and reapplied the update. I'll take a new image at this point.

I would like to try and 'repair' this if possible but what is the best way?

Should I use one of the the options in Settings:

or should I make an ISO or bootable USB from UUP dump and use that in some way... reinstall? or use DISM and point to the ISO.

I want to keep EVERYTHING as it is now really if possible and see if a repair works. Which would be best option?

And I've backups if it all goes pear shaped.

I'll look in again tomorrow

fg2001gf11F · Aug 6, 2024

Mooly said:
So not just me then That's good...

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OK, I have question please everybody. Having played and messed around with this build (and the previous build because of these various issues) I've restored back with Macrium to just before all this latest trouble and reapplied the update. I'll take a new image at this point.

I would like to try and 'repair' this if possible but what is the best way?

Should I use one of the the options in Settings:

or should I make an ISO or bootable USB from UUP dump and use that in some way... reinstall? or use DISM and point to the ISO.

I want to keep EVERYTHING as it is now really if possible and see if a repair works. Which would be best option?

And I've backups if it all goes pear shaped.

I'll look in again tomorrow

This is similar to an update/repair in place, and let you keep all your installed Apps and programs.
You can try that, if it does not work you can go with the ISO.

The "Reset your PC" does not preserve your Apps and installed programs, not a good choice in my opinion.

JGToy · Aug 6, 2024

This one just got installed, and I didn't even saw it coming...

Only noticed when the computer was rebooting!

JGToy · Aug 6, 2024

Incredible how large Windows ISO has become!

fg2001gf11F · Aug 6, 2024

JGToy said:
Incredible how large Windows ISO has become!

View attachment 103334

Yes, that is because they don't set either of these 2 parameters in the ConvertConfig.ini anymore.
If you change those to 1, the size will be much smaller.

I tried that last week with the previous Build 26120.1330, you can see below how much it reduced the sizes.

rseiler · Aug 6, 2024

sananda said:
so i decided to do an inplace upgrade with the iso.

I truly can't catch a break with this build. Made the ISO, mounted it, but am told that it can't proceed because of the Secure PC requirement. Is there a current workaround for that for upgrades? I normally use the "Skip_TPM_Check_on_Dynamic_Update" script, which used to work, but that's apparently only now for Windows Update (though Setup didn't complain about TPM, so maybe it still has some effect). I also tried the appraiserres.dll trick.

fg2001gf11F · Aug 6, 2024

rseiler said:
I truly can't catch a break with this build. Made the ISO, mounted it, but am told that it can't proceed because of the Secure PC requirement. Is there a current workaround for that for upgrades? I normally use the "Skip_TPM_Check_on_Dynamic_Update" script, which used to work, but that's apparently only now for Windows Update (though Setup didn't complain about TPM, so maybe it still has some effect). I also tried the appraiserres.dll trick.

Take a look at the links below, not sure if these still work when using the ISO?
They used to bypass all the checks for the requirements.

setup.exe /product server
or
setupprep.exe /product server

https://hardforum.com/threads/product-server-to-bypass-win11-restrictions.2031054/

Microsoft has patched the 'product server' trick for TPM check bypass

The recently discovered setup.exe /product server command that one could use to skip TPM and CPU restrictions in Windows 11 no longer works. After the

winaero.com

rseiler · Aug 6, 2024

@fg2001gf11F That was definitely worth a try despite the article not mentioning Secure PC, which is my problem in this case (not TPM).

And it got past that check to be sure -- but has a slightly detracting quality:

https://imgur.com/Envaz4T

fg2001gf11F · Aug 6, 2024

rseiler said:
@fg2001gf11F That was definitely worth a try despite the article not mentioning Secure PC, which is my problem in this case (not TPM).

And it got past that check to be sure -- but has a slightly detracting quality:

https://imgur.com/Envaz4T

Did you change the option to not check for updates?

It used to popup a different message, like this below.

rseiler · Aug 6, 2024

@fg2001gf11F Yes, I always deselect that because I don't like waiting for it.

It makes some sense that MS would force not keeping anything when changing editions (not that this would have really installed Server, but Setup thinks that it is, I guess), so it's surprising that it ever let you.

fg2001gf11F · Aug 6, 2024

rseiler said:
@fg2001gf11F Yes, I always deselect that because I don't like waiting for it.

It makes some sense that MS would force not keeping anything when changing editions (not that this would have really installed Server, but Setup thinks that it is, I guess), so it's surprising that it ever let you.

That is not the logic, the /product server parameter was only bypassing the checks for hardware requirements, it was still installing the client that is on the ISO.
I just tried it here and it worked for me with these options.
I did not let it check for updates, by changing the option I showed above.

JGToy · Aug 6, 2024

fg2001gf11F said:
Yes, that is because they don't set either of these 2 parameters in the ConvertConfig.ini anymore.
If you change those to 1, the size will be much smaller.

View attachment 103352

View attachment 103348

I tried that last week with the previous Build 26120.1330, you can see below how much it reduced the sizes.

View attachment 103350

I never tried those options... I will do it on next ISO creation.

Thanks for reembarks!

rseiler · Aug 6, 2024

fg2001gf11F said:
That is not the logic, the /product server parameter was only bypassing the checks for hardware requirements, it was still installing the client that is on the ISO.
I just tried it here and it worked for me with these options.
I did not let it check for updates, by changing the option I showed above.

It does have "Windows Server" in the title bar, and while I knew that Server couldn't be installed I didn't know what else was different.

It's really interesting that it works for you. But there's some variable between us.

Maybe it's the edition? I'm Enterprise, you're likely not.

Maybe you tried it from the same build as the ISO? I'm on an older build than the ISO. Not sure why that would matter, but it could.

I assume it was with the current ISO though, because if it was for 23H2 or something, things could have changed.

fg2001gf11F · Aug 7, 2024

rseiler said:
It does have "Windows Server" in the title bar, and while I knew that Server couldn't be installed I didn't know what else was different.

It's really interesting that it works for you. But there's some variable between us.

Maybe it's the edition? I'm Enterprise, you're likely not.

Maybe you tried it from the same build as the ISO? I'm on an older build than the ISO. Not sure why that would matter, but it could.

I assume it was with the current ISO though, because if it was for 23H2 or something, things could have changed.

Yes, in my case that I just tried, the ISO and the system have the exact same Build 26120.1340 Pro.

Many other users have used this same method to bypass the requirements. Looks like it is still working.

Anyway, you should get a machine that meets the requirements for windows 11. MS is tightening the checks.

Good luck!

Mooly · Aug 7, 2024

fg2001gf11F said:
This is similar to an update/repair in place, and let you keep all your installed Apps and programs.
You can try that, if it does not work you can go with the ISO.

Thanks. I'll have a play later on today all being well.

rseiler · Aug 7, 2024

fg2001gf11F said:
This is similar to an update/repair in place, and let you keep all your installed Apps and programs.
You can try that, if it does not work you can go with the ISO.

View attachment 103323

The "Reset your PC" does not preserve your Apps and installed programs, not a good choice in my opinion.

I found something about that too earlier. For reasons unknown, it didn't work (Install error - 0xc1900101) but more interesting is how it leaves your system afterwards, and that's a bit of a mystery.

So, before using it, WIU had this: Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Insider Preview (10.0.26120.1340)
After: Windows 11 Insider Preview 10.0.26120.1340 (ge_release_svc_betaflt_upr)

Now, that second thing is appropriate for the recovery, as it's something closer to an image, but I don't know why after the recovery attempt is made it leaves WU primed for that same thing. No doubt there's some tweak to the Registry that would get things back to looking for the CU, but it's anyone's guess what that is.

I assume when the next build comes out that will take precedence in WU and be what appears, but it would be just my luck if it didn't.

Mooly · Aug 7, 2024

Mooly said:
Thanks. I'll have a play later on today all being well.

Well that went better than I might ever have imagined tbh. It took a while, around 40 minutes I guess but the result seems good. Everything as it was apart from custom font and icon sizes, however as well as notes of the settings used I also had a reg file I made of the Windows Metrics from back when I started on the Dev build. A couple of seconds to apply that and all seems good.

This is what got installed using the recovery option:

And lots to clean up afterwards:

I'm not sure if this is a new partition of some sort or whether it has just been altered and is near its space limit. There was certainly no red anywhere before but I can't say for sure if it is a new 'partition' of some sort. Anyone know the answer to that?