latest preview release checks hardware on WU update

Hi folks
If you try and update to the latest Windows preview version via WU it does a hard checking -- This VM won't update (my fault here) because it's looking for TPM V2 which I didn't include in the VM's config.




If using KVM on a machine that doesn't have a native TPM v2 then install the IBM emulated one then it all works agains. :


I'd imagine on Windows Hosts using HYPER-V there's probably an emulated possibility as well.

Note this VM is running on an old BIOS only NAS server - but the VM can have gpt (install the edmk support when creating the VM for UEFI) and sec boot so it will work fine. You can poodle fake the CPU topography as well -- dual XEON's might not "Officially" support W11 but they are more than powerful enough to run W11 VM's very fast. !!!! Use the drop down to select an appropriate CPU topography.

Cheers
jimbo

In that case, just download the ISO, mount it, run setup and then delete the file C:\$Windows.~BT\sources\appraiserres.dll to bypass compatibility check before proceeding. The folder is hidden, change settings to show hidden files to see it.

I suspect the next update will include this, although my laptop is TMP 2.0 compatible the processor isn’t. If the check flags the processor then it’ll be back to Windows 10 for me.

If you mean the next build, there is a good chance that you will be able to upgrade simply by deleting the file again. Just download the ISO, mount it and start Setup from there, don't rely on Windows Update.

jimbo45 said:

Hi folks
If you try and update to the latest Windows preview version via WU it does a hard checking -- This VM won't update (my fault here) because it's looking for TPM V2 which I didn't include in the VM's config.

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Good look. I'm sure this will be useful news for quite a few Windows 11 practitioners.

Windows Update does check compatibility. Download the latest Windows 11 ISO, mount it, run Setup and delete the file before proceeding (see earlier posts).

Then does this mean that maybe, possibly, probably at some point in the near future a new version update will come down the pike that will leave everyone that is running 11 on incompatible hardware out in the cold?

Hi folks
I don't like the idea "deleting files" from Windows install media just so the system installs. I'd suggest it's far better especially if using a VM to find a proper way of doing this -- using an Emulated TPM device and a supported" Virtual CPU set which works perfectly on HYPER-V and KVM/QEMU Hosts IMO is a far better and safer solution. I believe some people can also set this virtual hardware using VMWare too.

People have obviously different solutions for "Forcing a W11" install or upgrade but I still have reservations about mucking about with any Windows install files.

Of course if running on Native hardware - then if that's the only way -- but you can't guarantee it will work for the next upgrade -- the VM method will work long term - especially if you don't have the appropriate "Official hardware"

What might be interesting on a Windows system is to do a V2P conversion -- ("Virtual VM to physical") where the Real hardware won't officially run Windows 11. The TPM might be an issue as I don't think there's a Windows TPM emulator that runs outside of HYPER-V -- perhaps someone can clear that up.

Currently though while there are various checks in the upgrade processes it does seem that W11 can indeed run on "incompatible hardware" via V2P processes -- note though don't forget to add HOST SATA Windows drivers or the V2P process won't see any HDD's !!!!.

Cheers
jimbo

glasskuter said:

Then does this mean that maybe, possibly, probably at some point in the near future a new version update will come down the pike that will leave everyone that is running 11 on incompatible hardware out in the cold?

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Rather unlikely. In the mean time Windows 10 support ends 2025, so any old computer still running Windows 10 will get no more updates. The same computer running Windows 11 has a chance to keep getting updates past 2025. So I prefer to risk it.

glasskuter said:

Then does this mean that maybe, possibly, probably at some point in the near future a new version update will come down the pike that will leave everyone that is running 11 on incompatible hardware out in the cold?

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I have a feeling that will be the case when the next feature update/22H1 is released.
I’m glad I still have my Win 10 image.

I have mine too, so I will take my chances. I will keep running Windows 11.

glasskuter said:

Then does this mean that maybe, possibly, probably at some point in the near future a new version update will come down the pike that will leave everyone that is running 11 on incompatible hardware out in the cold?

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I see that pretty much as a given.

No sweat. As long as I have my Windows 10 SSD, I can swap anytime if anything bad happens to my Windows 11 system. I will just wait and see.