Solved Let's compare backup systems.


If you're trying to tell me you can create and restore a terabyte-sized backup using Macrium in less then ten minutes, I'd really be interested in knowing how it's done.
I don't know about Macrium because frankly I don't care, but both the 2TB WD Black SN850 and my 2TB Samsung 980 Pro will write ~1040 GB of data in 10 minutes. These are five year-old NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSDs by now.
 

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    i7 13650HX
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    2TB SSD internal
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I still have a 2TB Samsung 980 Pro sitting on the shelf in a sealed, unopened box. Hmmm... I wonder if I should sell it. :cool:
 

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DIY, ASUS, and DELL
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Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
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ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
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128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
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NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
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Crystal Sound (onboard)
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single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
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A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

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Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

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LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
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SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
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ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
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Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
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all kinds.
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all kinds
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360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
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FIREFOX
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KASPERSKY (no apologies)
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Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
I still have a 2TB Samsung 980 Pro sitting on the shelf in a sealed, unopened box. Hmmm... I wonder if I should sell it. :cool:
$450 and only 1 left, so you can pretty much name your price. :cool:

 

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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.9168)Intel® Core™ i9-13900KS 3.20GHz128GB DDR5-5200 Kingston Fury Beast RGBZotac Trinity NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 4090 24GB ...
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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.9168)
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    PC/Desktop
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    CLX Intel Battlebox Ultimate (RA)
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    Intel® Core™ i9-13900KS 3.20GHz
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    ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero WIFI - ATX
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    128GB DDR5-5200 Kingston Fury Beast RGB
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    Zotac Trinity NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6X
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    Realtek USB Audio
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    Dell G3223Q 32" 4K Ultra HD
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    3840x2160 @144hz
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    2TB x 2 Samsung 990 Pro 2280 NVMe M.2 SSD's
    2TB x 1 Samsung 980 Pro 2280 NVMe M.2 SSD
    4 TB x 1 My Passport Ultra External USB
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    1200W Corsair HX Ser HX1200 80+ Platinum
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    Lian Li / Der Bauer 011DXL ROG
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    Phanteks Glacier One 360 RGB AIO LC
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    Logitech K330 Wireless
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    Logitech M310 Wireless
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    1GB Fiber : 945/57
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    Brave
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    Defender - HitmanPro.Alert
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I have about 8 sticks of Corsair 32Gb Ram sticks DDR4.
 

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    Realtec
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    Alienware
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    Very Quiet And Fast
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USB SSDs are getting quite cheap now and will last a long time. 120GB drives for about £35 from Verbatim for example.
 

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    BIOS CT_BI_AMI_LX15PRO_AB8139_A-004
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    SSD 2TB
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    30 Mbps
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    Brave
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    Webroot SecureAnywhere Complete beta
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    2GB
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    Brave
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    Webroot
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My fundamental rule is that any backup set I make must let me to install a clean system from scratch, without losing any data, by recreating everything. Bonus points for preserving settings of frequently used programs. From top of my head, these are the most important things I do when thinking about backups.

- Separate backup frequencies and retention periods according to the data. Work documents got a daily backup but family photos only a weekly copy, if not less (they change much less often).
- For every single program I use I create a backup of the installer or a clean .rar file for portables. This set of installers is backed up from time to time.
- Most files get backed up in .rar files, except multimedia which gets copied right away (poor compression) and the installer of WinRar obviously is not in .rar.
- My first backup drive is an internal spinner which contain the most up-to-date copies of everything.
- The second device is a external hard disk that gets updated daily or so.
- A third copy of some files is uploaded to my account on Mega though FTP. This is also encrypted before uploading.
- This whole process is fully automated, everything is backed up even without my intervention. Manual, ad-hoc extra backups are of course possible for emergencies.
- My backup program of choice (Cobian Reflector here) runs under a dedicated user account as a service. This account has read access to everything that needs to be copied, and is the only account (besides admins) with write access to the backup drives, thus getting UAC protection.
- Retention periods go from a month to a year for infrequently updated copies.
- I still do full backups of everything, as I personally don't like too much the extra complexity of differentials or incrementals. Maybe some day.......

I try to implement the pull model as much as possible, which is hardly at all possible within a single computer, but I think using a dedicated account goes lot of the way. Otherwise I like the backups to be unattended and fully automatic, with a notification when a backup failed for any reason. I also cycle the copies from the most local thing (just a dedicated internal disk) to an external one, then to a cloud drive out there, each with different frequencies.


For example, suppose I delete something important and synch happened so effectively I have no backup.

Wht OneDrive does by default is a sync, also called a mirror, which is NOT meant for a backup purpose, precisely for the reason you name: mistakes on the live data also happen in the "backup". This system only serves for hardware failure if you lose access to your drive, but the real intention of OneDrive is to distribute your files among many systems.

For backup purposes it's better to implement a rotation of a few copies at least.


I also do a backup validation which is a single line command in a Linux subsystem for Windows

I wonder what single command can verify that your backups are working as intended? At most I imagine that it can verify integrity, but what do you exactly do here?
 

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Your backup is only as good as your rescue USB! I use Macruim Reflect paid version and Rescuezilla (linux) to ensure my backup works when I go to use it. Macruim and every other windows based product depend on the Windows operating system WinPE, WinRE drivers and backup vendors. Rescuezilla uses Linux to backup and restore your Windows and Linux environment. You backup and restore with the same USB based program it's not fancy it will clone and regular backups are by partion. You get to pick which ones. It's a GUI interface that gas the option to be loaded into ram for better performance. You don't need to know Linux to use it but it would be more usefull to have some knowledge. It includes a complete rescue environment with WiFi, browser, terminal, disks, files, Gparted. It's free and doesn't get updated that often but I consider that an advantage. It works, I've used it to restore both Windows and Linux.

Microsoft why is it that I have to massage every Windows PE/RE based rescue disk to work on my Asus, Intel Nuc? When I can take my one Rescuezilla USB and restore everthing with no changes? What does that say about your current device driver methodolgy?
 
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    Asus Rog Strix G16
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    Intel® Core™ Ultra 9 Processor 275HX 2.7 GHz
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    AsusteK Computer
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    NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 5060 Laptop GPU
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    Boot: Samsung 9100 NVME 2 TB Microsoft Storage Controller: Standard NVM Express Driver: Microsoft 6/21/2006. No SATA/AHCI on my motherboard or in bios
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    Google Chrome
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    Intel
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    Dell U27
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