LibreOffice: The Future of Open Standards and the Importance of ODF



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Open standards don’t make headlines. Instead, they work quietly behind the scenes to define how information is created, shared and stored. However, as digital ecosystems become more complex and centralised, open standards are becoming increasingly important.

One of the best examples is the Open Document Format (ODF), the native format of LibreOffice documents.

Open standards in the evolving digital world

The current digital environment is characterised by certain trends, such as cloud platforms, subscription software, artificial intelligence-based tools, and tightly integrated ecosystems. While these tools are powerful, they also increase the lock-in effect exerted by Big Tech.

Open standards act as a counterbalance. They provide shared rules that anyone can implement to maintain system interoperability and user control. When a format is open, no single company can decide how information is stored or who has access to it.

With ever-increasing data volumes and documents being transformed into long-term digital archives, this independence is becoming critical.

ODF was designed with one simple goal: to enable users to read and edit documents on any platform and with any software at any time. This goal is still absolutely valid today.

Because ODF is openly specified and standardised, it allows for the coexistence of multiple tools. LibreOffice and other editors can all work with the same files. Even proprietary software can support ODF without facing legal barriers.

Looking to the future, this aspect is more important than ever. Documents are now inputs for automated workflows, archives for public documents and sources for analysis with artificial intelligence tools, not just files on a desktop. Open formats enable these uses without any constraints.

Government, politics and long-term access

The future of ODF looks particularly secure in the public sector.

Governments are responsible for documents that must remain accessible for decades. Using proprietary formats carries risks in this context: companies change strategy, products are withdrawn from the market (Windows 10 docet), and licences evolve. Open standards reduce this risk.

Since digital sovereignty and transparency are political priorities, ODF is perfectly aligned with these objectives, as it enables public institutions to choose their software freely and maintain consistent access to all data.

ODF in the era of cloud computing and artificial intelligence

Contrary to popular belief, standard and open document formats remain highly relevant in an era of cloud computing and artificial intelligence.

Cloud platforms store documents in the format chosen by the user. If the format is open, users can move, analyse, edit and reuse data across different systems. The XML-based structure of ODF files makes processing documents at the development level easier, which is a key aspect of automation and AI-based workflows.

Since artificial intelligence tools rely heavily on existing documents for training, summarisation and decision support, transparent formats offer a practical advantage as well as a philosophical one.

Future challenges

Open standards are not without their challenges. They require ongoing governance (responsibility of ODF Technical Committee), consistent implementation across tools (which is lacking, because of the strategy of proprietary and open core software, which are pushing users towards proprietary formats against the user’s own interests) and widespread adoption (which has not yet been achieved for the aforementioned reason). Users favour default choices, which are often proprietary, for convenience and lack of expertise.

The future of ODF, and of open standards more generally, depends on continued support from institutions, developers, and users who value openness, even when it is less visible.

Why the future favours open standards

The long-term trend is clear. As digital systems become more powerful, the cost of lock-in grows with them. Open standards offer a way to share innovation without giving up control.

ODF may not be flashy, but it represents a lasting idea: that documents belong to the people who create them rather than the software they use. In the future of open standards, this idea will be more important than ever.


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Still does not make LibreOffice a real substitute for MS Office in business world!
 

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MS Office is a proprietary US company product. Geopolitical changes are making that increasingly problematic.
 
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My main office software is Corel WordPerfect Office, which I still use, but it is no longer supported. The last version was 2021, but I have used it since 1988, and know its "ins and outs." I also initially tried OpenOffice, but a couple of years ago, I moved from it to LibreOffice. I find it to do all that I need when I have occasion to deal with .docx files, which WP usually scrambles in the conversion of formatting, styles, etc.

I think .odt files have a future for the reasons mentioned in the article.

Just my two cents. Others may differ.

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Still does not make LibreOffice a real substitute for MS Office in business world!
Word supports the ODT standard and Excel supports the ODS standard so it's not really so much about the software you're using but the document format you're using. Of course, one would hope that those document formats were truly compatible amongst the products that use them.
 

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The ODF format has been occsionally promoted as 'the natural choice' for years by the Open Document Foundation/LibreOffice ever since LibreOffice was created as a 'forked version' of OpenOffice, but, to me, none of these occasional promation efforts have made more than a relatively minimal impact in real world usage, even in the Linux world, in which LibreOffice is treated as an almost universal solution. Certainly there has been nowhere near the destructive impact that the launch of the original MSOffice apllications and their document formats had on formally dominant descktop PC applications, such as Wordperfect, Lotus123 and DBase.

Microsoft's file formats still remain dominant because of global accessibility, despite not being open source. This is, in part, because Micrsoft has provided sufficient information about the formats to allow alternative software/online office services to be equipped with the abillity to both use and produce largely compatible MSOffice files.; All of the 'competing' options, including LibreOffice, OpenOffice, Google Docs, OnlyOffice etc., etc, actively promote their ability to read and produce (largely) MSOffice compatible documents.. On the other hand, apart from LibreOffice, the other wannabe competitors rarely, if ever, actively promote their capability to produce ODF documents. Not unsurprisingly, Microsoft, also rarely acknowledges the ODF formats despite being fully capaable of reading/writing documents in those formats using MSOffice applications. Presumaably, in their case, that is because not all of the formating/customisation features that are possibe when using the native MSOffice formats can be directly applied in ODF documents.
 

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Still does not make LibreOffice a real substitute for MS Office in business world!
5 years ago I suggested my company to replace MO with LO, they laughed at me. 1 year ago they replaced MO with LO. Thus far, there are zero issues. Nobody uses super extra MO scripts, besides MO, no longer exists, it is just MS365 or Copilot365, obsolete online :poop:.
 

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5 years ago I suggested my company to replace MO with LO, they laughed at me. 1 year ago they replaced MO with LO. Thus far, there are zero issues. Nobody uses super extra MO scripts, besides MO, no longer exists, it is just MS365 or Copilot365, obsolete online :poop:.
Not my experience - reports with detailed formatting with images are NOT 100% compatible with multiple clients, and Excell even more so when using complex macros.
 

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Not my experience - reports with detailed formatting with images are NOT 100% compatible with multiple clients, and Excell even more so when using complex macros.
Yes, MS does it on purpose, so people would be like, we need MO for that, but things are changing, at least in EU, companies can not legally use Windows 11, because it leaks user data, breaking GDPR, thus they are shifting to Mac or Linux, including apps like Office.
 

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Not my experience - reports with detailed formatting with images are NOT 100% compatible with multiple clients, and Excell even more so when using complex macros.
LibreOffice supports VBA and thus .xlsm, and more and more features are added every day. Same goes for formulas.

These "problems" are more an attitude issue than a compability issue.
 

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Yes, MS does it on purpose, so people would be like, we need MO for that, but things are changing, at least in EU, companies can not legally use Windows 11, because it leaks user data, breaking GDPR, thus they are shifting to Mac or Linux, including apps like Office.

Pure nonsense. Please stop spreading FUD.

This is a grey area atm. Latest Windows 11 collects a lot of data locally without notification and user consent. It is also very tricky to get rid of all this data collection. Nothing is also stopping Microsoft from grabbing all this data to their cloud with a simple configuration switch or Cumulative Update.

I am fairly certain EU will soon slap a HUGE fine to MS if they don't get their act together.
 

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LibreOffice supports VBA and thus .xlsm, and more and more features are added every day. Same goes for formulas.

These "problems" are more an attitude issue than a compability issue.
You are entitled to your opinion but it does not match my REAL experience and testing.

However do not insult me by saying it is attitude issues.
 

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Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ16 GB solderedIntegrated Intel Iris XE
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Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
ASUS Zenbook 14
CPU
I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
Motherboard
Yep, Laptop has one.
Memory
16 GB soldered
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated Intel Iris XE
Sound Card
Realtek built in
Monitor(s) Displays
laptop OLED screen
Screen Resolution
2880x1800 touchscreen
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1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
PSU
Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
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Yep, got one
Cooling
Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
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Built in UK keybd
Mouse
Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
Internet Speed
900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
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Edge
Antivirus
Defender
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TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

Macrium Reflect Home V8
Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
You are entitled to your opinion but it does not match my REAL experience and testing.

However do not insult me by saying it is attitude issues.
When was the last time you tested this? I used LO today. A lot has changed in a very short period of time. I haven't checked VBA extensively, but most stuff should work really well between MSO and LO. When it comes to formulas, ofc LO lags behind MSO but it does also have support for stuff MSO does not have.

LO will work more than fine if one gives it a chance. This isn't an opinion, but a fact. If there is some rare case where some macro doesn't work, so what. There probably exist a better and possibly even recommended way to use that functionality or achieved result anyways, since a lot of stuff can be implemented in multiple ways.

If you got insulted, then it is really not my problem since the comment wasn't targeted at you specifically. All I can do is to encourage you to grow a thicker skin. Either keep testing LO or don't, but rather than saying it can't work, it would be more constructive to create a Git issue on their source repo, and explain what is wrong and how it should work.
 

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    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8894 / Linux Mint 22.3Ryzen 7 2700U Pro32GBiGPU Vega 10
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8894 / Linux Mint 22.3
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    125W(Dock)/65W(Travel Adapter)
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    1/1Gbit
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    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
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    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8968(RP)i7-7700k @4.8GHz32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
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    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8968(RP)
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
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    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    1/1Gbit
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
  • Asus U46SV (laptop), i5-2410M, 8GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 750GB HDD, Windows 10. (used as a local Minecraft server and data dump)
Pure nonsense. Please stop spreading FUD.
So I am supposed to take your word for it, instead of experts who tested 11 and said that it breaks GDPR, OK. 🙃
And companies are not going to risk that it might break the law and face fines, they will use a reliable software instead.

 

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Home26H2Can
Computer type
PC/Desktop
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 8600G (07/24)
Motherboard
ASROCK B650M-HDV/M.2 (07/24) BIOS 4.21 AGESA ComboAM5 1.3.0.1 (04/26)
Memory
2x32GB Kingston FURY DDR5 5600 MHz CL36 @5200 CL36 (07/24)
Graphics Card(s)
ASROCK Radeon RX 6600 Challenger D 8G @48FPS (08/24)
Sound Card
Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5 Plus (05/24)
Monitor(s) Displays
24" Philips 24M1N3200ZS/00 (05/24)
Screen Resolution
1920×1080@165Hz via DP1.4
Hard Drives
Kingston KC3000 NVMe 2TB (05/24)
ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 512GB (07/19)
PSU
Seasonic Core GM 550 Gold (04/24)
Case
Fractal Design Define 7 Mini with 3x Noctua NF-P14s/12@555rpm (04/24)
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S with Noctua NF-P12 (04/24)
Keyboard
HP Pavilion Wired Keyboard 300 (07/24) + Rabalux 76017 Parker (01/24)
Mouse
Logitech M330 Silent Plus (01/26)
Internet Speed
500/100 Mbps via RouterOS (05/21) & TCP Optimizer
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Edge, Brave for YouTube, LibreWolf for FB
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NextDNS blocking 1/3 Traffic
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Backup: Hasleo Backup Suite (PreOS)
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Chair: Huzaro Force 4.4 Grey Mesh (05/24)
Notifier: Xiaomi Mi Band 9 Milanese (10/24)
FlexCore USB-C 3.2 Gen 1 (M) to LAN (F) (08/25)
Great! A statement backed up by a facts document and slapped in the face usually works really well in times like these. 😄

Thanks @TairikuOkami
 

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    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8894 / Linux Mint 22.3
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    125W(Dock)/65W(Travel Adapter)
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    1/1Gbit
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    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
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    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8968(RP)i7-7700k @4.8GHz32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
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    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8968(RP)
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    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    1/1Gbit
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    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
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"Problem" with GDPR is that it is not set in stone, it changes constantly. MS tries to keep up, but laws are not forgiving, the time between updates to correct it is crucial, in legal terms. Like when Ireland legalized hard drugs for a day. Cops are just waiting for you to break the law, waiting downhill to issue a speeding ticket. Better be safe than sorry. EU loves to issue fines, it is easy money. 😁

 

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Home26H2Can
Computer type
PC/Desktop
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 8600G (07/24)
Motherboard
ASROCK B650M-HDV/M.2 (07/24) BIOS 4.21 AGESA ComboAM5 1.3.0.1 (04/26)
Memory
2x32GB Kingston FURY DDR5 5600 MHz CL36 @5200 CL36 (07/24)
Graphics Card(s)
ASROCK Radeon RX 6600 Challenger D 8G @48FPS (08/24)
Sound Card
Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5 Plus (05/24)
Monitor(s) Displays
24" Philips 24M1N3200ZS/00 (05/24)
Screen Resolution
1920×1080@165Hz via DP1.4
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Kingston KC3000 NVMe 2TB (05/24)
ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 512GB (07/19)
PSU
Seasonic Core GM 550 Gold (04/24)
Case
Fractal Design Define 7 Mini with 3x Noctua NF-P14s/12@555rpm (04/24)
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S with Noctua NF-P12 (04/24)
Keyboard
HP Pavilion Wired Keyboard 300 (07/24) + Rabalux 76017 Parker (01/24)
Mouse
Logitech M330 Silent Plus (01/26)
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500/100 Mbps via RouterOS (05/21) & TCP Optimizer
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Edge, Brave for YouTube, LibreWolf for FB
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NextDNS blocking 1/3 Traffic
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Phone: Motorola Moto G86 (02/26)
Backup: Hasleo Backup Suite (PreOS)
Headphones: Sennheiser RS170 (09/10)
Chair: Huzaro Force 4.4 Grey Mesh (05/24)
Notifier: Xiaomi Mi Band 9 Milanese (10/24)
FlexCore USB-C 3.2 Gen 1 (M) to LAN (F) (08/25)
Microsoft Office uses a proprietary format and that can result in formatting issues between it and Libre Office. You have to save in docx if you want someone running Microsoft Office to open a file you've sent.
 

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    Windows 11 Education For 25H2Intel® Core i7 5500u8 GBIntel HD Family Graphics 5500 AMD Firepro 4150M
    OS
    Windows 11 Education For 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ZBook G2
    CPU
    Intel® Core i7 5500u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Family Graphics 5500 AMD Firepro 4150M
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Audio
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    Windows 11 Pro For Workstations 25H2Xeon 1535m v632 GBAMD Quadro Pro 4100
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro For Workstations 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Zbook G4
    CPU
    Xeon 1535m v6
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Quadro Pro 4100
    Sound Card
    Bang and Olufson Audio
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    1TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Microsoft Office uses a proprietary format and that can result in formatting issues between it and Libre Office. You have to save in docx if you want someone running Microsoft Office to open a file you've sent.
The XML-based formats have been the default for quite some time now.
 

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Windows 11 Enterprise 25H2 [rev. 8893]
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Windows 11 Enterprise 25H2 [rev. 8893]
I once loved Windows. The best of the internet, I learned all using Windows. Nowadays is a nuisance that needs features deactivated in order to work in peace.
Yeah, me too, and it's odd how many lengths one have to go in order for Windows or MS products in general to stop nagging or the user getting rid of features that are in the way.
 

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    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8894 / Linux Mint 22.3
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    125W(Dock)/65W(Travel Adapter)
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    1/1Gbit
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8968(RP)i7-7700k @4.8GHz32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
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    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8968(RP)
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
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    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    1/1Gbit
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
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