Solved Looking for feedback from people who have actually used WiFi 7


Once you have a router AND a PC that can transfer TCP/IP packets as fast as the ISP can handle them, you can't increase speed on the LAN between the ISP and your PC. That is if your ISP only provides 40Mbps down, AX speed PC is overkill. You can't go faster to/from the ISP.

Now between PC's/Tablets/phones on the LAN, different story. Speed is no longer determined for the max speed by the ISP but the individual devices AND the 802.11 speed standard they are (G, N, AX, BE). The lowest one will determine max. speed, and also the 'other' parts like cables or wireless, PC activity, etc., that could like the exchange times/speed. Of course, the speed rating of the router too.... Both Wifi versions and the capability of the router. Most 'since the 6Ghz band was introduced, just added the speed rating of the router for the 2.4 and 5Ghz band and called that the speed. However, the true speed would depend on the Band (SSID) you connected to and the 802.11 speed of the device. You'd always be lower the the listed theoretical limit.

Now having a Wifi7 router and not all devices capable of Wifi7 can limit your inter-PC Lan speeds.

Also, the router capability, usually listed with a speed of the combined bands. See What Do Those 'AX' and 'AXE' Numbers on Your Wi-Fi Router Mean? which covers that pretty well.

These web pages should interest you as well:

WiFi 7 vs WiFi 6: How is WiFi 7 different from WiFi 6? | TP-Link <--- Wifi 6 vs. Wifi 7
Ready for the New WiFi 7? TP-Link is Paving the Way <-- More general Wifi 7 info
What is WiFi 7’s Multi-Link Operation (MLO)? | TP-Link <-- this is about MLO and some non-Wifi 7 devices I think can connect to it, increasing speed between devices.

However, the wrinkle here, for me at least, with the Intel BE200, even with the latest driver MLO is working in the router, but the OS doesn't see it:

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PS C:\> netsh.exe wlan show Networks

Interface name : Wi-Fi
There are 1 networks currently visible.

SSID 1 : xxxxxx_MLO
Network type : Infrastructure
Authentication : WPA3-Personal
Encryption : CCMP

PS C:\> netsh.exe wlan show Networks mode=bssid

Interface name : Wi-Fi
There are 1 networks currently visible.

SSID 1 : netlaps_MLO
Network type : Infrastructure
Authentication : WPA3-Personal
Encryption : CCMP
BSSID 1 : 76:7f:f0:05:66:2a
Signal : 98%
Radio type : 802.11be
Band : 5 GHz
Channel : 40

Hash-to-Element: : Supported
Bss Load:
Connected Stations: 1
Channel Utilization: 19 (7 %)
Medium Available Capacity: 0 (0 us/s)
Colocated APs: : 1
BSSID: 72:7f:f0:05:66:29, Band: 2.4 GHz, Channel: 2
Basic rates (Mbps) : 6 12 24
Other rates (Mbps) : 9 18 36 48 54
MFP Required : 1

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If I were running the InSider Canary release that has the MS Windows 11 Wifi7 features enabled I would have seen both bands, the 2.4 and 5Ghz band and channels shown. Verified by another user who installed the MS Canary release with an Intel BE200 adapter.

Since my other PC on the LAN is AX speed, I'm limited to that speed between the 2.
 

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If I were running the InSider Canary release that has the MS Windows 11 Wifi7 features enabled I would have seen both bands, the 2.4 and 5Ghz band and channels shown.
Actually, you would see 2.4GHz, 5GHz, and 6GHz. The Release Preview builds work fine for this.
 

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    Win11 Pro 24H2
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    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
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    Intel i7-1255U
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    16 GB
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    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
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You make a good point. The further away from the router you get, the slower the WiFi speed becomes. So, if you start with a faster speed, your "lower" speeds at distance will still be faster than with previous gen WiFi.
Once finished transcoding I'll be transferring a folder from my old desktop to the Mini PC I use for streaming. I'll post the transfer speed I got.
 

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    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PowerSpec B746
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
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    Realtek Audio
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    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
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    1920 x 1080
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    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
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    750 Watts (62.5A)
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    Logitech K270
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    Logitech M185
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    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
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    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
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    1920x1080
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    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
And something else to consider with wireless routers........Dual-Band, Tri-Band and Quad-Band.
 

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Actually, you would see 2.4GHz, 5GHz, and 6GHz. The Release Preview builds work fine for this.
Yes, know that. It is the MLO SSID that would show both bands in use.

See, I am not on the Release Preview Canary build, and as far as Windows is concerned (as pasted in above) it only sees the 5Ghz. Canary will show all if using MLO.

The Wifi7 router I'm using now does NOT have a 6Ghz band... but you do not need that for Wifi7. The other features of Wifi7 are used, like MLO and 4KQAM... and others.

Like I said, I did get better speed on an 6Ghz Wifi7 connection, but what I've got is fast enough except of one program that gets updated, MS Flight Simulator, the updates are hundreds of Gigabyte's in size... When the ISP speed I had was 400Mbps down, it took some time, but now, almost a Gigabyte, good enough.

What I don't know now is everything working correctly? That is I know the router is doing its job, and after that, I'm not 100% sure the Intel adapter is, or if it is, is the OS holding it back? Reports from NETSH I can see where that might depend on the OS to give it the info (or get it from them), but does the adapter need the OS to enable the features as well?

I'll know once I get the Wifi7 MS update I guess?
 

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    512GB SSD, 1TB HDD
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    500W
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    Dell
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    Passive
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    Logitech MK540
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    MK540
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    1Gbps/40Mbps
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    McAfee LiveSafe
Once finished transcoding I'll be transferring a folder from my old desktop to the Mini PC I use for streaming. I'll post the transfer speed I got.
The folder size was 10.2 GB and the transfer speed was 26.3 MB/s. Slow but slightly over twice the speed of WiFi 5.
 

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    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PowerSpec B746
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
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    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
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    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PC/Desktop
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    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
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    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
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    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
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    1920x1080
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    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
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    Logitek K270
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The folder size was 10.2 GB and the transfer speed was 26.3 MB/s. Slow but slightly over twice the speed of WiFi 5.
26 MB/s is crazy slow. I get way better than that on WiFi 5. You must not be anywhere near the router.
 

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  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
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    Kamrui Mini PC, Model CK10
    CPU
    Intel i5-12450H
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    PSU
    120W "Brick"
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Mechanical Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    Win11 Pro 23H2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
26 MB/s is crazy slow. I get way better than that on WiFi 5. You must not be anywhere near the router.
26.3 MB/s is approx 212 Mbps.
 

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    I'm a computer enthusiast so have quite a few systems that I run. More like an advanced hobby.
26.3 MB/s is approx 212 Mbps.
Like I said, slow :-).

I get way better than that even on WiFi 5. With WiFi 6e I do in excess of 160 MB/s (1280 Mbps).
 

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  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Kamrui Mini PC, Model CK10
    CPU
    Intel i5-12450H
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    PSU
    120W "Brick"
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Mechanical Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
There is a lot of overhead on 2 PC's playing into the 'speed' you are seeing. PC's CPU's differences, RAM sizes and speeds, not to mention the disks, mechanical vs. SSD's.

If you want to measure PC to PC speed over the LAN, check this web page for choices, Three More Ways To Measure Network Speed - SmallNetBuilder and all are free.
 

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    Windows 11
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    Dell
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    i7 11700
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    Dell
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    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX2060 6GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek/Nvidia
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    Dell S3221QS
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD, 1TB HDD
    PSU
    500W
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    Dell
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    Passive
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    Logitech MK540
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    MK540
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    1Gbps/40Mbps
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    Firefox
    Antivirus
    McAfee LiveSafe
26 MB/s is crazy slow. I get way better than that on WiFi 5. You must not be anywhere near the router.
When I do a transfer the signal has to go the go to the ceiling and floor to access the router than back through the floor and ceiling to reach the other computer. With WiFi 5 I was getting less then 10 MB/s and sometime less than 5 MB/s. My internet speeds aren't effected.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
When I do a transfer the signal has to go the go to the ceiling and floor to access the router than back through the floor and ceiling to reach the other computer. With WiFi 5 I was getting less then 10 MB/s and sometime less than 5 MB/s. My internet speeds aren't effected.
Ah yes, that makes sense. I have multiple WiFi access points in the home so I'm always near an antenna.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Kamrui Mini PC, Model CK10
    CPU
    Intel i5-12450H
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    PSU
    120W "Brick"
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Mechanical Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
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