Most people assign far too much Disk space to the Windows system


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Does anyone besides me have an Ultimate X12 Backgrounds folder in C:\Users\Public\Public Pictures?
Public Pictures is an empty folder for me.
 

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On this system I allocated 60 GB of which only around 50% is used.




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How come only 60GB is enough, my windows 11 with Office Home 2019, Firefox, chrome and windows games (like Chess, Free Cell) and a few VPNs takes up 60GB. Of course, when fresh installed, it does take up around 30GB and soon after all the updates goes back to 60GB !
 

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when fresh installed, it does take up around 30GB and soon after all the updates goes back to 60GB !
If cleaned up regularly it should go back down again.
I run the command Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup after each Patch Tuesday cumulative update.

It's also a good idea to clean up restore points, they can add up to quite a few GB. Either use Disk Clean-up to delete all but the latest one, or configure System Protection and delete them all.

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60GB if you use the computer for browsing or a server. Or if it is just a back-up system. 60GB will not work for most users.
I usually have separate drives for OS (M.2) , data (HDD) and Insider preview (SSD). I partition the data drive to contain files and games. All apps are in the main system drive. As you can see in the screenshot below, 512GB M.2 OS drive is overkill but I don't want to worry about drive space.
Videos, photos and other files are stored in NAS.

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If you organise your HDD's etc properly you can get a reasonable size Windows installation on quite a small anount of HDD disk space.
It should go without saying that only the OS and installed apps e.g Ms Office / Photoshop etc should reside on the system disk or partition and all user data and other files should be on other scratch partitions. Apart from not having to recover all your user data if you need to recover the OS you can backup the OS much quicker etc etc.

On this system I allocated 60 GB of which only around 50% is used.
I always wonder what people have on their Windows machines when I see an entire 512GB SSD assigned to the windows OS. !!

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I have used Windows for several years with just 60 GB assigned to the OS and Programs partition (I install all programs in the same partition as the OS). I have always had about 25% free space.

I think 60 to 120 GB should be good enough for most users. Anything more than that is unnecessary space allocation IMO, unless there is a specific requirement.

The OS must be installed in a separate partition because it has very important benefits. I always keep my files in a separate partition.
 

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I got a new ASUS Desktop over 5 years ago, came with a 1TB HDD factory split as 150GB C:\OS and 780GB D:\DATA. I set my browsers to save downloads in the appropriate folder on D:, when that can't be done I move the data from the default on C: over to D: and install most programs on D:.
 

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The OS must be installed in a separate partition because it has very important benefits. I always keep my files in a separate partition.

Care to explain what the importance of having your OS alone on it's own partition and your files in another partition?

If you like to reinstall your OS all of the time, I could see keeping your files on another drive so they don't get wiped and have to be restored....but for somebody who doesn't repeatedly install...that won't be much of a concern.
 

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Care to explain what the importance of having your OS alone on it's own partition and your files in another partition?

If you like to reinstall your OS all of the time, I could see keeping your files on another drive so they don't get wiped and have to be restored....but for somebody who doesn't repeatedly install...that won't be much of a concern.
Hi there.

some times you might want to switch data files (e.g music, other multi-media, photoshop scratch files / work in progress etc) to another computer or in the case say of a NAS you might want to try a different OS / system. What about those who "Dual or triple" boot too -- you might well want to keep the same data files.

I've been testing Windows 2022 server recently -- still nice to have my data files available without any extra hassle by simply enabling file sharing from attached devices.

I can see plenty of valid reasons for keeping data separate to the OS. Even if you backup the OS regularly you will have much larger backups and on restore your data files could be seriously "back levelled" if you dont exercise a lot of care in the process. My experience is that even incredibly organised people get themselves into a state of "organised chaos" when sitting at a computer screen.

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Care to explain what the importance of having your OS alone on it's own partition and your files in another partition?

If you like to reinstall your OS all of the time, I could see keeping your files on another drive so they don't get wiped and have to be restored....but for somebody who doesn't repeatedly install...that won't be much of a concern.
1. In the event of the system acting up, you can quickly do a clean install or restore a backup. No need to spend time backing up and restoring your files.

2. Same holds true if the system is infected with malware, or becomes corrupt or unbootable for any reason.

3. System backups and restore are superfast when user files are kept separate.

4. If you use cloud services like OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox, etc. the files do not have to download again, in case of a clean install or restoring a backup.

To put it simply, your files are much safer and managing the system becomes a fast and time-efficient process.
 

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I see what you are getting at. I guess it doesn't apply to me as much as I have a file server at home that handles all of my actual important files and for other files they are in OneDrive, so have them at home as well as in the cloud.

For enthusiasts I can see some wanting to separate files. for the general population though, i think it's probably a good thing for them to backup their files along with their OS when they make an image. Unlike us, they are likely not dual booting and wouldn't want to set anything up after a restore. The sad truth is probably that the vast majority of people are not backing up their files anyway on a regular basis. I think the cloud storage option has at least helped with that.
 

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Care to explain what the importance of having your OS alone on it's own partition and your files in another partition?

If you like to reinstall your OS all of the time, I could see keeping your files on another drive so they don't get wiped and have to be restored....but for somebody who doesn't repeatedly install...that won't be much of a concern.
It is faster to make an image backup if your have all you data in separate drive or partition. And also faster to re-image from backup because you don't have to copy your data back and forth.
 
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My experience is that even incredibly organised people get themselves into a state of "organised chaos" when sitting at a computer screen.
Examples would be illuminating.
 

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I have a 2TB NVMe drive, one partition is 256GB for Windows, the rest is used for games (which can take a LOT of space!)
I also have another two 1TB NVMe drives - one is like a Windows 'extension' drive where I keep things like the browser caches, Virtual machines.
The other 1TB is my drive for personal files
 

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You have to adjust you hardware to your needs, I always have a separate physical drive for my OS - the Standard data folders are moved to another drive or partition using windows own "Location" option.

This desktop was put together less than a year ago and was populated from scratch (Data was already located on a data drive transferred from the previous system.

Windows is on a one Terabyte NVME and currently stands at around 260GB with the program files folders taking around 65 GB, but the programs I use also add a lot of internal data on the system drive, [and the added extras, Filters, replacement skys, overlays Etc Etc are all located on data areas on other drives].

Now my setup is not your average home system, as I use a lot of Image processing software that is complex and takes up space. I move a lot of the temporary processing data to another SSD of 500GB whilst processing so the current System drive could handle this itself, though the separation does increase overall performance by splitting the Read/Write over two devices
 

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Examples would be illuminating.
I'm sure we've all seen sufficient examples -- of course some aren't but it's amazing how many are.

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You have to adjust you hardware to your needs, I always have a separate physical drive for my OS - the Standard data folders are moved to another drive or partition using windows own "Location" option.

This desktop was put together less than a year ago and was populated from scratch (Data was already located on a data drive transferred from the previous system.

Windows is on a one Terabyte NVME and currently stands at around 260GB with the program files folders taking around 65 GB, but the programs I use also add a lot of internal data on the system drive, [and the added extras, Filters, replacement skys, overlays Etc Etc are all located on data areas on other drives].

Now my setup is not your average home system, as I use a lot of Image processing software that is complex and takes up space. I move a lot of the temporary processing data to another SSD of 500GB whilst processing so the current System drive could handle this itself, though the separation does increase overall performance by splitting the Read/Write over two devices
Photoshop is also a great case where having the scratch files and layers on fast SSD /Nvme drives makes a lot of sense whatever Windows version or computer hardware you are running -- same if you use things like GIMP etc.

Processing a professional quality A3 or even A2 poster size quality print from a professional high end digital camera takes a lot of work and processing !!!!

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7

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I have an old and dusty 4790K backup rig running different OS at one time. The only drive permanently installed is a data drive.


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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Gaming Edge Wifi (X570)
    Memory
    32GB Adata XPG DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Main Boot Drive : 512GB Adata XPG RGB Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA 600 Watts Gold
    Case
    Deepcool Genome II
    Cooling
    Deepcool Fryzen
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-4790K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI R9 290
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
    Case
    Thermaltake Commander I Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Deep Cool Archer Air Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Armageddon MKA-5R RGB-Hornet
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Moderna :)
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