Moving Thunderbird Backup Profile from Win 7 Pro to Win 11 Pro.


MrBeaujhangles

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This is something I have had to do several times over the last 20 years but not in a very long time. The directions on the Mozilla site have always been rather straightforward. Not so much at this point. For profiles larger than 2 GB, they suggest doing it manually. These folders were not located on the OS drive as we have that on it's own partition. The OS drive has a "twin" so if a machine's OS got borked, a trip to the BIOS had us up and running. So profiles were stored on networked drive which was backed up.

It directs one to use the export tool to find the profile folder location which in this case is on Drive T:\MozillaProfiles\Thunderbird\Defaults. The instruction state that the file has a name like "abc12defg.default-release." The Defaults folder has many files and folders but also a subfolder named"Profiles" and within that is the noted "xxxxxxx.default" file" )no release) (10.2GB).

I followed the instructions here for "Creating a backup of large profiles"

Made a copy of the contents of the "******default" folder
Copied to a thumb drive
Put the contents in the xxxxxxx.default file on the Win 11 box
Rebooted and launched the program
Say a lot of disk activity and that's about it

Saw several youtube videos with other methods but neither of those worked.

Anyone k ow of any other solutions
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    IntelUltra 9-275HX (OC'd)
    Motherboard
    Clevo w/ HM870 ChipSet
    Memory
    32 GB 262 pin DDR5 at 5600MHz (2 x 16)
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia 5070 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster Hi-Def
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" 240 Hz / G-Sync
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    (2) 2TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD
    PSU
    Clevo
    Case
    Clevo
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Thermal Design w/ 2 Fans
    Keyboard
    Four Zone Multi-Color (15) Illum. full size w/ numeric pad
    Mouse
    Built in ClickPad w/ MS PTP multi-gesture / scrolling
    Internet Speed
    Intel Wi-Fi 7 BE200 M.2 BE 9.3 Gigabits Per Second
    Browser
    Mozilla
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky (Yes,I know)
    Other Info
    Been using Clevo laptops since last millenium
It should also work on Thunderbird, when I want to manually backup Firefox, I simply copy all Mozilla folders from the original location (C:\Program Files, C:\ProgramData, C:\Users\username\AppData\Local etc) to the respective folder of the new installation. Then I download Firefox and install it. The folders are detected and I see "upgrade" at the last stage. I click on "upgrade" and after installation everything is back, my theme, my bookmarks, my browsing history and until recently the passwords (in new versions I have to type them again). Do the same with Thunderbird. Copy-paste all folders at their respective location before installing Thunderbird.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5472), 24H2 (4652)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.4652)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
That's the procedure I have used in the past. This time I looked at a few videos using compressed files and suggesting that if it's over 2 GB, you need to split them up into separate compressed files. It was also complicated by the fact that %appdata% didn't actually show you where the actual folder was, it was; I had to drill down 2 levels.

After overcoming those obstacles and just doing a copy paste of the profiles, it all went fine. Oh 1 more thing, After 13 years, I didn't remember where TB stored the passwords :), That took another 10 minutes
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    IntelUltra 9-275HX (OC'd)
    Motherboard
    Clevo w/ HM870 ChipSet
    Memory
    32 GB 262 pin DDR5 at 5600MHz (2 x 16)
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia 5070 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster Hi-Def
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" 240 Hz / G-Sync
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    (2) 2TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD
    PSU
    Clevo
    Case
    Clevo
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Thermal Design w/ 2 Fans
    Keyboard
    Four Zone Multi-Color (15) Illum. full size w/ numeric pad
    Mouse
    Built in ClickPad w/ MS PTP multi-gesture / scrolling
    Internet Speed
    Intel Wi-Fi 7 BE200 M.2 BE 9.3 Gigabits Per Second
    Browser
    Mozilla
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky (Yes,I know)
    Other Info
    Been using Clevo laptops since last millenium
Before you do anything backup your bookmarks and passwords, just in case.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5472), 24H2 (4652)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.4652)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
I have always used this method and it still works.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2 Pro (RP Build 26100.4767)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware
See the following folders and copy each one that starts with Mozilla Make sure you know where each one came from, don't mix them!

C:\Program Files (64-bit version)
C:\Program Files (x86) (32-bit version)
C:\ProgramData
C:\Users\youruser\AppData\Local
C:\Users\youruser\AppData\LocalLow
C:\Users\youruser\AppData\Roaming

To keep them separate and remember where each one was, I create the folders in backup like this: ProgFiles, ProgFiles(x86), ProgData, AppData_Local, AppData_LocalLow, AppData_Roaming and I copy the "Mozilla..." folder inside the respective one. At the new installation I copy-paste the "Mozilla..." folders at the respective location. These copy-pastes must be done BEFORE installing Firefox or Thunderbird! If done correctly, you should be offered to "upgrade", proceed to copy the appropriate data in Registry and make the program work. I have also done it successfully for Google Chrome and Opera browsers. Old versions of Firefox would keep everything, the theme, the bookmark, the browsing history and even the passwords, Newer versions omit the password for security reasons, that's why I said to backup your bookmarks and passwords separately, just in case, in addition to the copy-paste of the all the program folders. Same for Google Chrome, passwords are not copied, you have to export them separately.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5472), 24H2 (4652)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.4652)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
When I moved the Thunderbird profiles to my data drive, it was pretty painless. I copied the entire Thunderbird folder from C:\Users\<name>\AppData\Thunderbird to my data drive. Then I just edited the profiles.ini file on C: to point to my new profile on the data drive. When everything was up and running, I whacked all the profiles in the Profiles folder on the C: drive.

Now when Thunderbird updates, the updates are seamless, it has no problem with the relocated profile location.

Moving to a new computer I just moved my data drive Thunderbird folder and did the same edit to profiles.ini for my fresh install of Thunderbird.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 24H2, Build 26100.4652
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 Nvme PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 24H2, Build 26100.4652
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Security

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