MR: Restore OS drive image to new disk?

jimbo45 said:

confused -- do you mean should be fine or should not be fine.

It worked on my 6gen cpu so should work on much later hardware !!!

cheers
jimbo

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Typo. The OP Q370 and 9th gen intel should be fine.

It worked on my 6gen cpu so should work on much later hardware !!!

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You are mistaken. Intel 11/12/13/14 gen oem machines might need irst drivers.

Hi, TM,

Yep, I have. But I kinda like the image-and-restore process better, cuz then I don't have to deal with things like Device Manager still thinking the disk is the old one, and a couple of other things i can't remember. The clone would have to be a clone to somewhere, and I only have the three disk slots, so I want to remove the current OS disk from the machine and then, using my MR key, restore to the new, blank drive in the OS slot the image I just made and parked on one of my other disks. From what I've been told here, that is likely to work perfectly, and if not, there's always a Plan B. (Thanks. I'm out of Likes for today.)

The "clone" copies from the source disk to the new disk and fixes the bcd entry and osletter.

The image restore copies from the image file to the new disk and fixes the bcd entry and osletter.

Macrium doesnt seem very reliable at the cloning. Use the correct tool for the job.

As much as I like Macrium, I have to admit it has let me down when trying to clone an OS drive to a new drive. I will only do image restores now. It's been awhile but as I remember, by using drag and drop you can not only resize a partition but rearrange them if wanted. That is if you move them a location that is allowed by Windows.

SIW2 said:

Typo. The OP Q370 and 9th gen intel should be fine.


You are mistaken. Intel 11/12/13/14 gen oem machines might need irst drivers.

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Thanks

always good to know --
So presumably one could still clone the drive to the new one, boot a windows install disk, do update at Windows install -- and load the driver when you get selection --choose disk to install too.

Re-installing Windows from scratch can be a pain - especially if you've got a load of software that needs serial numbers / license files and has itself been updated loads of times.

I'm still surprised though that manufacturers themselves if making totally new drivers don't supply software to clone older drives to migrate to the newer one. People like WD used to do that for spinners when LBA on larger drives was needed etc but that practice seems to be much less prevelant. I'm surprised though that a huge company like Intel doesn't offer that service.

But when in these days has Customer Service ever been a priority any more.

Cheers
jimbo

for winpe based recovery media it makes more sense to install the drivers into the wim instead of f6ing them every time.

SIW2 said:

Intel 11th, 12th, and 13th Generation Processors, No Drives Can Be Found During Windows 10 and Windows 11 Installation | Dell UK

for winpe based recovery media it makes more sense to install the drivers into the wim instead of f6ing them every time.

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Makes sense so long as you know how to do it.

Cheers
jimbo

Wisewiz said:

Hi, TM,

Yep, I have. But I kinda like the image-and-restore process better, cuz then I don't have to deal with things like Device Manager still thinking the disk is the old one, and a couple of other things i can't remember. The clone would have to be a clone to somewhere, and I only have the three disk slots, so I want to remove the current OS disk from the machine and then, using my MR key, restore to the new, blank drive in the OS slot the image I just made and parked on one of my other disks. From what I've been told here, that is likely to work perfectly, and if not, there's always a Plan B. (Thanks. I'm out of Likes for today.)

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FYI you can Clone an internal disk to an external disk using USB. Then simply swap the drives. Although both methods should work.

Thanks, @BamaInArk . I knew that, and, in fact, it’s in Plan B, but I don’t yet have an external enclosure for an M.2, so drive switching is out for now.

Wisewiz said:

Thanks, @BamaInArk . I knew that, and, in fact, it’s in Plan B, but I don’t yet have an external enclosure for an M.2, so drive switching is out for now.

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I keep multiple M.2 enclosures handy. Come on...get with the program!

You bet! Soon as the budget allows, both SSD externals get retired and replaced by M.2s.

BamaInArk said:

I keep multiple M.2 enclosures handy. Come on...get with the program!

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Just wondering: How do your speeds for copying/moving files to/from a USB-connected external M.2 and an internal M.2 compare to your speeds of copying/moving between internal M.2s?

@cereberus
@glasskuter
An easy way and correct way is, to make MR rescue iso on target PC. hence when it runs on the target PC it has all drivers needed.

This hints, you may have multi-version of MR rescue iso (for various PCs). I just leave them on Ventoy. more specific, One PC, One MR. (ironically, that's also a reason I don't like MR )

Wisewiz said:

Hi, TM,

Yep, I have. But I kinda like the image-and-restore process better, cuz then I don't have to deal with things like Device Manager still thinking the disk is the old one, and a couple of other things i can't remember. The clone would have to be a clone to somewhere, and I only have the three disk slots, so I want to remove the current OS disk from the machine and then, using my MR key, restore to the new, blank drive in the OS slot the image I just made and parked on one of my other disks. From what I've been told here, that is likely to work perfectly, and if not, there's always a Plan B. (Thanks. I'm out of Likes for today.)

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Hi,
Yep system images can be used many times
Clones are one off and can be wonky at best.
I cloned my laptop but I knew I was going to clean install anyway

ThrashZone said:

Clones are one off and can be wonky at best.

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I agree. But, ofc, TM will argue that there is no WONKY with 27-year-old Ghost. That's his choice, ofc.

Wisewiz said:

Just wondering: How do your speeds for copying/moving files to/from a USB-connected external M.2 and an internal M.2 compare to your speeds of copying/moving between internal M.2s?

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USB-C is supposed to be pretty darn fast
I've thought about grabbing one to but got 4tb m.2's instead now don't really need one.

Wisewiz said:

I agree. But, ofc, TM will argue that there is no WONKY with 27-year-old Ghost. That's his choice, ofc.

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Maybe not with clonezilla lol

It's obvious, even to this OLD tech, that the M2 drives have added more hate and discontent to the PC world than the IDE to SATA upgrade ever did. I don't have one, and likely never will. Nor, do I want one!

Yes, the CLONE technique is a one off, and the "restore a backup Image file" can be repeated over and over again. And, even though I have always had that option, I've still opted for a clone, when moving my OS from one drive to another.
When cloning a drive, I want every tiny bit of information, from the boot sector, to the last bit in the last partition. Nothing escapes a true Clone, like the ones I've done with Ghost.
The SSD I'm on right now, is a true Clone of the SSD on my Main PC, in another room. I've used the same technique to supply HD's to several other PC, including some Laptops.

But, I've always been a PC TECH, since I built my first PC ~1980, and not just a casual user. So, I've always had a desktop PC with multiple HD ports, so doing a CLONE has never been a problem for me. Granted, it's much easier with SATA drives than it was with the IDE or MFM drives.
(fewer BIG cables to fuss with).

I really don't understand all the hate and discontent with Ghost. It was the first highly comprehensive Backup software, from which all others have stemmed. Even though Symantec fussed with it for several years, they never destroyed it's complete functionality.
I've used Ghost in one version or another, (2.0 through 11.5) now for 27 years, without ever a complete failure. Even the slight failures I've had with Ghost, were my fault, operator error, and not the fault of the program. And once I corrected my own fault, the program worked just fine, as it always had before.

Nowadays, we have the same Ghost 11.5, that I've used from a DOS boot disk, for years, in a Windows 10 Shell, produced and released by "Broadcom". I still use the old DOS version and the new Broadcom versions, equally, booting up from a Flash Drive.
Certain versions seem to work better with certain PC's.
To post the link to the new Broadcom version, may just break forum rules, so I'll abstain, for now anyway.

But even with all the screaming, yelling and stomping of feet, I will NEVER trust any of the Johnny Come Lately, so called, Backup Programs. I've tried several of them, and found them all seriously wanting. Witness, the many posts on this and other forums, that those programs have had serious problems. It's almost a daily occurrence.

I'm sorry that my post ran so long.

TM

@TechnoMage2021

My thread, so it's my prerogative to say that there is absolutely nothing to apologize for. A long post is often needed to say what one needs to say. I'm just glad we have this amazing forum, and the freedom to say what needs saying.

BTW, I'm not aware of any forum rule against posting links to software downloads. Members do it all the time. Especially on the "Latest Version of [program x]" threads and the Apps and Software forum's threads.

Hi,
Download rule is do not post to auto downloads which means someone only gets a download message.
Links should go to the sites information pages with download options there for the user to read and decide whether they want to download or not.

As far as posting different apps that do the same things, it's all good
I've never read about ghost except for Casper hehe