Ms finally doing something decent !!!


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Hi folks
Latest version of W11 Pro for workstations (28120.2302) running as a VM under KVM/QEMU seems fastest Windows yet -- provided you install the virtio windows drivers (this acts like Windows tools / additions on vmware workstation / player or oracle vbox) the system boots nearly instantly and runs very nicely - no probs at all so far -- running on an HP laptop with intel CORE vpro i7 CPU and using 16GB RAM of the 32GB in the laptop.

Host OS : Fedora (pre-release 45)
Kernel : Linux 7.1.0-0.rc7.260611g9716c086c8e8.50.fc45.x86_64


CPU : 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1185G7 (8) @ 4.80 GHz
graphics : GPU: Intel Iris Xe Graphics @ 1.35 GHz [Integrated]


No issues so far -- if W11 had started out like this - then very few complaints -- installed seamlessly as a VM !!

Runs better than my older 64GB RAM desktop type PC !!! running in Nartive mode !!. Same OS on both.

Even Windows Networking is functioning correctly !!! (apart from that minor niggle of you need to enter a remote machine name to get access to shared disks on the networked dcomputer - but you can then pin it to windows explorer so only needs to be done once.

I expect though Ms will hose this up again at the next update though !!!!!

Added -- I don't use secure boot (see no reason for that on a HOME PC !!) or bitlocker -- see no reason for that either on a home PC -- secure stuff I leave on the cloud or off line on other devices !!- plus for the VM it 's simpler to use an emulated TPM - on most linux distros this is usually installed automatically if you enable KVM / QEMU virtualisation but can be installed manually -- use your own distro package manager for that.

For the virtio-windows drivers just download the iso from the fedora site - these tools are universal for Windows VM's created under most Linux distros. Run the install FROM THE VM - of course !!!.

Cheers
jimbo
 
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I always get curious when people post a thread and uses (Ms finally doing something decent) or (Ms finally doing something right) 😁

When i tested Fedora back in 2018 i think it was version 20+ or something.. so they are on 45 now. :-)

Curious question. When installing that win11 version. How much did you have to uninstall before you felt it wasn't to bloated?
I'm just curious as i have my thread about tweaking win2024LTSC :cool:
 

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I always get curious when people post a thread and uses (Ms finally doing something decent) or (Ms finally doing something right) 😁

When i tested Fedora back in 2018 i think it was version 20+ or something.. so they are on 45 now. :-)

Curious question. When installing that win11 version. How much did you have to uninstall before you felt it wasn't to bloated?
I'm just curious as i have my thread about tweaking win2024LTSC :cool:
MS would be doing something good if they gave every user in every Country the same RTU policy. If the EU can remove EDGE then everyone should be able to. One should be able to remove AI if they want to. This all could be done by MS without breaking the OS. I have zero use for EDGE and never use it. I am sure that there are those that do. I know that there are tools available for a user to do this, but it would be better if done by Microsoft.
 

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MS would be doing something good if they gave every user in every Country the same RTU policy. If the EU can remove EDGE then everyone should be able to. One should be able to remove AI if they want to. This all could be done by MS without breaking the OS. I have zero use for EDGE and never use it. I am sure that there are those that do. I know that there are tools available for a user to do this, but it would be better if done by Microsoft.
Yeah... i agree that everyone should be able to uninstall things.

But... they would be doing something good and something really right, if they did as with winXP/win7
When you install you get a bare-boned operating system and you manually have to install all the software you want.
So if you want AI.. then you have to install AI.. if you want Xbox games. You have to install Xbox things.

Something is really wrong when you have to spend more time uninstalling software you dont want, then the time you spend to install software you actually do want. :nope:
 

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    Linux: Debian, Kali-linux, Alma, Win: 7, 8.1,2012R
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    HP Elitebook 840, AsusX53, Aspire E1-572. AsusUX32A, HP Pro3130mt+3010mt, HP Proliant ML150, 3xCustom-PC, i3, i5, i7
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    i3, i5 and i7 From 2gen to 9th gen... Server dual Xenon
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    Sata, M.2, SAS
  • Operating System
    Retro: 2003server.XPpro, Win2000, Win98SE, Win95, Win3.11, MS-DOS, IBM-DOS
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    Commodore, AST, Fujitsu, Compaq, etc etc. etc Around 15 desktops and 20 laptops in the collection
    CPU
    Oldest intel 8088 up to P4 dual core
    Hard Drives
    MFM, IDE, SCSI
Yeah... i agree that everyone should be able to uninstall things.

But... they would be doing something good and something right, if they did as with winXP/win7
When you install you get a bare-boned operating system and you manually have to install all the software you want.
So if you want AI.. then you have to install AI.. if you want Xbox games. You have to install Xbox things.

Something is really wrong when you have to spend more time uninstalling software you dont want, then the time you spend to install software you actually do want. :nope:
These things, would be better, but Microsoft would never agree.🤷‍♂️
 

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    Windows11 Pro 26200.8655
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware Aurora R16
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 14900F (24 -Core, 68 MB Total Cache)
    Motherboard
    Dell Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4080 Super w/581.95
    Sound Card
    Realtec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Corsair XENEON 32QHD165
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1440
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    1-2TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    1-4TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    PSU
    1000 Watt Platinum Dell
    Case
    Alienware
    Cooling
    Liquid Closed Loop
    Keyboard
    Corsair Strafe RGB
    Mouse
    Logitech MK270 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    100Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 152.0
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Very Quiet And Fast
    CyberPower UPS CP1500PFCLCD
  • Operating System
    PClinuxOS Mate (2025.7)
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel
    CPU
    13th Gen Inter(R) Core(TM) i3-1315U
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    Intel
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    64 GB DDR4 @3200 MHz.
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    Internal
    Sound Card
    None
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    Dell 2419HGCF
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    1920 X 1080
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    1GB
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    Slimjet
These things, would be better, but Microsoft would never agree.🤷‍♂️
yeah... i know.. and they know that if they did, then almost no people would use their expensive AI investments, and no one would use their less popular software.
I wonder how many that uses windows for work, that have use for Xbox things that cant be uninstalled.... easy.... (it can be removed, but not easy by the default uninstall menu)
 

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    CPU
    i3, i5 and i7 From 2gen to 9th gen... Server dual Xenon
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    Sata, M.2, SAS
  • Operating System
    Retro: 2003server.XPpro, Win2000, Win98SE, Win95, Win3.11, MS-DOS, IBM-DOS
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    MFM, IDE, SCSI
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