Solved New laptop, constantly running fan, high core temp?


Even though Windows and Intel don't do it, OEMs can configure things for their laptops. Intel leaves some settings to OEMs for their laptop processors. So Dell Optimizer, in general, shouldn't be useless.

If there were something other than "quiet," like "optimal" as the default value, I would leave that value for a while. This value and its behavior may have been taken into account during the Dell Optimizer installation.
Bu I would have thought if essential for something like this then they woudl say it was a critical download to be installed....I've certainly noticed nothing since installing it.
 

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If you live in the UK you should invoke your consumer rights. You could always go to the Small Claims Court or you could go to the Citizens Advice Bureau.
What matters is when you first complained, it must be within six months of purchase. Did you buy diect from Dell?
Thanks. They are playing ball now. And I've been piling it on with their ridiculous comments, like saying within hours of the engineer leaving that the issue with shutdowns was resolved. Had to admit it is likley but pointed out it was a bit premature becuase by definition and intermittent issue would take some time to reveal itself!
 

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I can't imagine that being anything normal!

I've owned a number of laptops over the years, and both of my daughters, my grandson, and my wife all have laptops of various vintages and brands. I've never had anything like this happen to any of them, especially a brand new one. Usually, my overheating issues come after they get contaminated with dust and blowing it out usually solves that problem. I had one Compaq years ago that I had to take apart and properly apply some better heatsink compound to solve it's high temperature running.

However, you have convinced me of one thing. I won't be buying Dell anytime soon if they're that much of a PITA to resolve an obvious issue!
It's like most of them these days, they put so many obstacles in the way to see if you give up. And like you I've had laptops in the past and heat issues were usually resolved by blowing away the dust, but that was in the days of a roomier chassis, and an HDD which required more efficient cooling. I think they are just trying to cram too much into a tiny space and it's not working very well. But aren't most like that now, no optical drive, no ethernet connection, blah, blah.

I've also rammed it home with them now that there is no need for them to "look into the possibility and eligibility for an RMA" or for me to "help them review this with the relevant team" by "sharing a copy of the device invoice". So that they can "validate the purchase details and check internally on the available options as requested".

My response to that was as follows:

Just so you are aware, it is likely that I am going to request an RMA on this machine, as this constant fan operation issue was flagged to you within weeks of my receiving the machine, and here we are 7 months later.

I would also add that the mobo fault (hopefully now rectified) was discovered I think, thanks to my own efforts and a lot of support from a forum, rather than any effective assistance from Dell whose diagnostics repeatedly revealed no hardware issues."


I also said that "assuming the windows BSOD shutdown issue is solved, any RMA would be wholly based on the repeated assertion by various Dell frontline and technical support reps, that the fan should not be expected to run constantly when the machine is in low level use (I attach one such example). If that is the case, then again by definition, RMA would necessarily be an option should I wish to take it. I have attached the ‘purchase details’ you request butI find it inconceivable that you do not have these to hand within Dell.

The fan is stopped now.....because I am not using the machine! But with the previous motherboard I would sometimes wake up in the middle of the night to find the fan would be running full pelt... :rolleyes:
 

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Now, just in case I to to RMA, I need to start thinking where else to go and which laptop to buy...didn't want to have to upgrade the memory in a new machine because is has become so expensive ( I need 2TB). Better get looking.....
 

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There was another person that had that issue two years ago and posted about it on the Dell forum.

Thanks for this. Wish I had seen it before purchasing....but will save it up in case they start getting flaky on the RMA....

But, isn't this the problem:
Lenovo struggling with heat issues

Possible that if the hardware issues are sorted I stick with the devil I know and juet get a cooling pad to sit it on....looks like w ith any laptop these days could be an out of frying pan into the fire jobby.....and this is only a core i5!!
 
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Bu I would have thought if essential for something like this then they woudl say it was a critical download to be installed....I've certainly noticed nothing since installing it.
I recently had a Dell power management update marked as critical, but the description mentions battery extension, which the application also manages :-)
 

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It was bought in August last year. Can't remember when I first contacted Dell within weeks of receiving the machine abut the fan noise. But they keep insisting on trying to fix first...? It maybe that if I have to go back to them again because there are still issues that I can prove after a couple of weeks then I can push it to RMA. I have tried once.
The standard Dell wanrranty is one year. Don't try to fix it to the point that may void your warranty. I am sure you have another PC you can use while your laptop is on RMA. Try to fix it only if your warranty is over. But it seems like you already did what you could. Just go for the RMA while you can.
 

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Hi @kevinboardley, have you tried different CPU Boost Modes -- it may lower the CPU temperature and fan activity.

According to ChatGPT setting "Maximum processor state > Plugged in = 99%", is the same as setting "Processor performance boost mode > Plugged in = Disabled". Both these settings disable the Turbo Boost (= 5000 MHz on the Intel Core 5 120U). Do not set both (99% and Disabled) at the same time.


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The standard Dell wanrranty is one year. Don't try to fix it to the point that may void your warranty. I am sure you have another PC you can use while your laptop is on RMA. Try to fix it only if your warranty is over. But it seems like you already did what you could. Just go for the RMA while you can.
Thanks for the advice. I understand the RMA is open to me. I do have a desktop but as I live and work between two different places I need the laptop as well. If I was living on in location all lthe time there would be no problem with your suggestion. So even going for the RMA is going to cause me some disruption whilst I get a new laptop. And there is no guurantee that it won't have same thermal issues, as many seem to have now.
 

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You have given Dell plenty of opportunities to fix it, which you could have refused. Insist on a full refund. And don't buy a Dell! As ChatGPT advises;

Dell’s position isn’t how UK consumer law works.

Your rights come from the Consumer Rights Act 2015, and it sets a clear sequence:

1) You don’t have to accept endless repairs

After a fault appears, the retailer (Dell, if you bought direct) gets one opportunity to repair or replace.

If that fails, or
If a repair is not successful, or
If it causes significant inconvenience

you move to the next stage.

2) Final right to reject (or price reduction)

At that point you are entitled to:

Reject the laptop for a refund, or
Keep it and demand a price reduction

Dell cannot insist on repeated repair attempts once the first fix has failed.

3) Important timing points
Within 30 days of purchase: you have a short-term right to reject immediately.
After 30 days but within 6 months:
The law assumes the fault was present at delivery unless Dell proves otherwise.
You still get the repair/replacement → then rejection if it fails.
After 6 months: burden of proof shifts to you, but rights still exist.
4) “Multiple repairs” — legally weak position

Courts generally treat:

One failed repair = enough to trigger rejection, especially for high-value goods like a laptop
Repeated failed repairs = clear evidence of lack of conformity
5) What you should do now

Write to Dell (email is fine) stating plainly:

The product is faulty
A repair has already been attempted and failed (list dates)
Under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 you are exercising your final right to reject
You require a refund within 14 days

If they refuse:

Escalate via Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) if they offer it
Or issue a small claim (this is exactly the sort of case the small claims track handles)
Practical point

Don’t get drawn into technical arguments about diagnostics. The legal test is simple:
Is the product of satisfactory quality and fit for purpose?
If repeated repairs haven’t fixed it, the answer is effectively “no.”

If you want, tell me:

when you bought it
how many repair attempts
what faults persist

and I’ll give you a tight, legally precise letter you can send to Dell.
 

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Hi @kevinboardley, have you tried different CPU Boost Modes -- it may lower the CPU temperature and fan activity.

According to ChatGPT setting "Maximum processor state > Plugged in = 99%", is the same as setting "Processor performance boost mode > Plugged in = Disabled". Both these settings disable the Turbo Boost (= 5000 MHz on the Intel Core 5 120U). Do not set both (99% and Disabled) at the same time.


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Hi Thanks for the suggestion but my power options don't have th epower boost option which to me sounds remarkably like overclocking settings...? If it had been there I would have found it and experimented after researching it.
 

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    Plus external Samsung 1TB for additional data copies and for Sonos stream
    PSU
    Pure Power 11 400w Quiet PSU PLUS Gold
    Case
    S400 Silencio mATX Quiet PC
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-P12 Redux 12v 900RPM 120mm x2
    Keyboard
    Dell corded usb
    Mouse
    Logitech corded optical
    Internet Speed
    35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox, Opera, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security with Malware Bytes
    Other Info
    FTTC 35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
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    Windows 10 Pro (standalone licence)
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    Dell DC16250
    CPU
    Intel Core 5 120U 1.4GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Integrated
    Sound Card
    Intel Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    External Philips 230C
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Storage 2TB Crucial SSD
    PSU
    -
    Case
    -
    Cooling
    -
    Keyboard
    -
    Mouse
    -
Thanks for the advice. I understand the RMA is open to me. I do have a desktop but as I live and work between two different places I need the laptop as well. If I was living on in location all lthe time there would be no problem with your suggestion. So even going for the RMA is going to cause me some disruption whilst I get a new laptop. And there is no guurantee that it won't have same thermal issues, as many seem to have now.
My only point is to use your warranty, or lose it. Or deal with the issue longer than the RMA process.
 

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    AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
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    MSI PRO B850-P Wifi
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    "Moderna"
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-4790K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
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    MSI R9 290
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    LG Ultrawide 34"
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    3440x1440
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    500GB Adata SSD (OS Only)
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Here is a letter suggested by ChatGPT.

Subject: Final Right to Reject – Consumer Rights Act 2015
I purchased a laptop from you in August 2025. Faults were reported within weeks of delivery.
The device has been subject to five repair attempts, all unsuccessful. The laptop continues to exhibit serious thermal faults, including sustained high fan operation and CPU temperatures exceeding 100°C.
Under the Consumer Rights Act 2015, you have had more than a reasonable opportunity to repair the goods and have failed to bring them into conformity.
I am therefore exercising my final right to reject and require a refund. Given the fault was reported shortly after purchase and has persisted throughout, any deduction for use should be minimal.
Please confirm within 14 days how you will arrange collection and refund.

 

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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8655
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    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic LX15PRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics
    Memory
    16GB
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    SSD 2TB
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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
You have given Dell plenty of opportunities to fix it, which you could have refused. Insist on a full refund. And don't buy a Dell! As ChatGPT advises;

Dell’s position isn’t how UK consumer law works.

Your rights come from the Consumer Rights Act 2015, and it sets a clear sequence:

1) You don’t have to accept endless repairs

After a fault appears, the retailer (Dell, if you bought direct) gets one opportunity to repair or replace.

If that fails, or
If a repair is not successful, or
If it causes significant inconvenience

you move to the next stage.

2) Final right to reject (or price reduction)

At that point you are entitled to:

Reject the laptop for a refund, or
Keep it and demand a price reduction

Dell cannot insist on repeated repair attempts once the first fix has failed.

3) Important timing points
Within 30 days of purchase: you have a short-term right to reject immediately.
After 30 days but within 6 months:
The law assumes the fault was present at delivery unless Dell proves otherwise.
You still get the repair/replacement → then rejection if it fails.
After 6 months: burden of proof shifts to you, but rights still exist.
4) “Multiple repairs” — legally weak position

Courts generally treat:

One failed repair = enough to trigger rejection, especially for high-value goods like a laptop
Repeated failed repairs = clear evidence of lack of conformity
5) What you should do now

Write to Dell (email is fine) stating plainly:

The product is faulty
A repair has already been attempted and failed (list dates)
Under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 you are exercising your final right to reject
You require a refund within 14 days

If they refuse:

Escalate via Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) if they offer it
Or issue a small claim (this is exactly the sort of case the small claims track handles)
Practical point

Don’t get drawn into technical arguments about diagnostics. The legal test is simple:
Is the product of satisfactory quality and fit for purpose?
If repeated repairs haven’t fixed it, the answer is effectively “no.”

If you want, tell me:

when you bought it
how many repair attempts
what faults persist

and I’ll give you a tight, legally precise letter you can send to Dell.
Thank you. I realise they are trying the big corporate 'resist and they'll give up' routine. I have said to them today that assuming there are no more hardware faults, if the constantly running fan issues continue, I will probably be wanting a refund. They said this morning that this was not possible because I had "bought directly from Dell"! Non-sensical. I told them that this was absolute rubbish and that if I so decide on 30th then I will want a refund.

In termns of fault, assuming no more critical hardware issues, just want to clarify what I mean by constantly runnign fan. Which is, that as soon as I start using the machine the fan runs. And generally doesn't stop. If I do something like de-encrypting and re-encrypting the SSD the fan runs full pelt and temps hit a spike of 100 degrees with a small amount fo throttling which I understand is how the new intel processers are designed to work...?

But can I expect a modern thin, light laptop like this not to be running the fan most of the time when being used? What I read online suggests it has become, or is becoming, the norm....
 

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    Windows 11 Pro (retail) 23H2 / 26100.4946
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom (Quiet PC)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8GHz 8C/16T 65w AM4
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK TUF gaming B550M (WI-FI) AM4 Micro-ATX Motherboard
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    Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC 2470WNX
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [operating system]
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [Data]
    Samsung 870 EVOPlus 1TB SATA/600 [Data]
    Plus external Samsung 1TB for additional data copies and for Sonos stream
    PSU
    Pure Power 11 400w Quiet PSU PLUS Gold
    Case
    S400 Silencio mATX Quiet PC
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-P12 Redux 12v 900RPM 120mm x2
    Keyboard
    Dell corded usb
    Mouse
    Logitech corded optical
    Internet Speed
    35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox, Opera, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security with Malware Bytes
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    Windows 10 Pro (standalone licence)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell DC16250
    CPU
    Intel Core 5 120U 1.4GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Integrated
    Sound Card
    Intel Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    External Philips 230C
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Storage 2TB Crucial SSD
    PSU
    -
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    -
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If you bought it from Dell site, the more they should honor the warranty. And the RMA should take shorter to process. I don't understand why they are giving you such a hard time.
 

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    AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
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    MSI PRO B850-P Wifi
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    Thermalright Burst Assassin 120
    Internet Speed
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    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    i7-4790K
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    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
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    MSI R9 290
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    LG Ultrawide 34"
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    500GB Adata SSD (OS Only)
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    Chrome
    Antivirus
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FWIW, my System One is the 7th Dell XPS laptop I've owned in 25 years. My 8th Dell XPS (X9 388H) laptop was recently ordered on April 14th.

The fan noise on my Dell XPS laptops has never been loud enough to affect my work, rather it's what I expect when doing something stressful. The vast majority of the time my Dell XPS laptops have been silent.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 DA16260
    CPU
    Intel Series 3 Core Ultra X9 388H
    Memory
    64GB LPDDR5x 9600 MT/s
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    Intel Arc graphics B390 Panther Lake
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    16" 3.2K Tandem OLED Infinity Edge
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    3200 x 2000 16:10 236 PPI
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    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
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    Black Anodized Aluminum
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    Vapor Chamber Cooling
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    None
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    Amazon Kindle for PC
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    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
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    Microsoft Surface Laptop 7
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    None
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    Microsoft Copilot
I'm putting together evidence for a letter demanding a refund. But just sitting here now the fan has stopped as it has been doing when I stop using the machine. 3 temp monitoring apps running and not really anything else.

Fan intermittently runs a low level for quite long periods before eventually stopping again, usually starting when I start to do anything, or within a minute or so. But I'm only reading the temp monitoring apps.
Current temp readings
HWMontior and HWiNFO mid 40's degrees c
Sentinel 41
Speedfan just hitting 31

Then open up a browser window, an excel and word window (no documents) foxit reader window, outlook, proton and zoho mail apps, download signal messenger and whatsapp and this is what happens:

HWMontior and HWiNFO mid 50's degrees c with spike at 100 (COU package and CoreMax), package/ring thermal throttling 3% & package ring power limit exceeded 3%
Sentinel42 with max recorded 63
Speedfan just hitting 35-38

Is this 'normal' for thin light laptops these days with intel processors designed to max out at 100 degrees before throttling which is what it seems to be doing according to HWiNFO. It is just doing what it has been designed to do?

I'm sure you'll all shout no but just need to be sure......

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Now even speedfan
which seems more laid back than the other tools...
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    OS
    Windows 11 Pro (retail) 23H2 / 26100.4946
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom (Quiet PC)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8GHz 8C/16T 65w AM4
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK TUF gaming B550M (WI-FI) AM4 Micro-ATX Motherboard
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC 2470WNX
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [operating system]
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [Data]
    Samsung 870 EVOPlus 1TB SATA/600 [Data]
    Plus external Samsung 1TB for additional data copies and for Sonos stream
    PSU
    Pure Power 11 400w Quiet PSU PLUS Gold
    Case
    S400 Silencio mATX Quiet PC
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-P12 Redux 12v 900RPM 120mm x2
    Keyboard
    Dell corded usb
    Mouse
    Logitech corded optical
    Internet Speed
    35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox, Opera, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security with Malware Bytes
    Other Info
    FTTC 35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
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    Windows 10 Pro (standalone licence)
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    Dell DC16250
    CPU
    Intel Core 5 120U 1.4GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Integrated
    Sound Card
    Intel Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    External Philips 230C
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Storage 2TB Crucial SSD
    PSU
    -
    Case
    -
    Cooling
    -
    Keyboard
    -
    Mouse
    -
Give it a few days. As you kept agreeing to repairs and it seems to be ok now you are on weak grounds for demanding a refund.
 

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    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic LX15PRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics
    Memory
    16GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
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    Brave
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    Defender/Windows Security
    Other Info
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    RAM 4GB
    BIOS v1.17
    SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB (an upgrade)
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    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
All depends what these things are showing me and I'm not really able to say other than they are warning using numbers that are defaults in each program
 

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    OS
    Windows 11 Pro (retail) 23H2 / 26100.4946
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom (Quiet PC)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8GHz 8C/16T 65w AM4
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK TUF gaming B550M (WI-FI) AM4 Micro-ATX Motherboard
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC 2470WNX
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [operating system]
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [Data]
    Samsung 870 EVOPlus 1TB SATA/600 [Data]
    Plus external Samsung 1TB for additional data copies and for Sonos stream
    PSU
    Pure Power 11 400w Quiet PSU PLUS Gold
    Case
    S400 Silencio mATX Quiet PC
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-P12 Redux 12v 900RPM 120mm x2
    Keyboard
    Dell corded usb
    Mouse
    Logitech corded optical
    Internet Speed
    35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox, Opera, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security with Malware Bytes
    Other Info
    FTTC 35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
  • At a glance

    Windows 10 Pro (standalone licence)Intel Core 5 120U 1.4GHz16GBIntel Integrated
    Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro (standalone licence)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell DC16250
    CPU
    Intel Core 5 120U 1.4GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Integrated
    Sound Card
    Intel Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    External Philips 230C
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Storage 2TB Crucial SSD
    PSU
    -
    Case
    -
    Cooling
    -
    Keyboard
    -
    Mouse
    -

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