New Outlook forces sync to Microsoft Cloud when adding IMAP account


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I have switched from Mail to New Outlook and I think it's really stupid that it doesn't let me add my IMAP account without syncing it to the Microsoft Cloud.
To add your IMAP account to Outlook, we need to sync your emails to the Microsoft Cloud. Existing contacts and events won't be synced, but anything you create in Outlook will be saved to the Microsoft Cloud.
I don't want my emails from my private account mingled with my Microsoft account. This is a shame because I prefer the layout on the New Outlook. Is there any way round this?
 

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Anyone?
 

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I subscribe to "Ask Woody" which is a Windows oriented web site and just this week one of the authors, Peter Deegan, had an article about the Outlook (new). I'm pasting in an excerpt of his article. This article is for paid subscribers so I can't link to it for you or I would have.

"
It’s not ready. Remaking Outlook desktop with different and new technology is a huge job that’s taking Microsoft years, and they are still working on it.

Outlook (new) is not ready for the public. Redmond is treating this like a new and complete product, but it is most definitely not. Outlook (new) isn’t even close to being a replacement for Outlook desktop for Windows or Mac.

Microsoft is rushing out an incomplete product, even though it’s missing at least one crucial feature: proper offline support. What’s more, it has a major privacy issue: login details saved at Microsoft.

Offline support Outlook (new) requires a constant, fast, and reliable Internet connection. Only in Microsoft’s Fantasy Land™ do people have that. Even good broadband has outages, let alone anyone traveling or having spotty Internet access. This includes most people on Earth.

Outlook needs to work offline with a local, synchronized copy of the data held online. That’s necessary so people can work when disconnected and also for faster access to info and as a backup. Outlook desktop has that with the very familiar PST/OST database files, but not Outlook (new), which has only a vaguely defined cache.

Microsoft’s latest promise of “offline” support is very limited and not what Outlook desktop customers are accustomed to.

Adding proper offline support means having a fast and robust database on the computer, and that’s difficult for a PWA. Microsoft seems to be hoping that people won’t notice the loss of proper offline support and will tolerate half-measures instead.

Huge privacy leak A recent boast about Outlook (new) is that it works for non-Microsoft accounts such as Gmail, Yahoo, iCloud, etc. What Microsoft doesn’t say is that you have to give it your login and password for those mailboxes.

Outlook desktop connects directly to each mailbox, with the login details shared only with the mail host. Outlook (new) works very differently. It passes your login details to Microsoft’s servers, which then connect to the non-Microsoft mailbox. All your data passes through Microsoft’s hands, and the company saves your login details."
 

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Hi there
sounds like a contradiction in terms -- to use OFFLINE you have to have an internet connection. ???
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Offline support Outlook (new) requires a constant, fast, and reliable Internet connection. Only in Microsoft’s Fantasy Land™ do people have that. Even good broadband has outages, let alone anyone traveling or having spotty Internet access.-------------------------

cheers
jimbo
 

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Thank you for that @rpetruzz.
The article is pretty much spot on.
Had Microsoft continued to use the name 'Mail' , rather than using 'New Outlook', feedbacks wouldn't have been as harsh.
No matter what, the 'new' Outlook is never going to match the 'real' Outlook.
 

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It passes your login details to Microsoft’s servers, which then connect to the non-Microsoft mailbox. All your data passes through Microsoft’s hands, and the company saves your login details."

Color me GONE on using the "new" Outlook!
 

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You can forward emails to Outlook and then separate them into categories based on filters.
 

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I am using the new outlook but why do I have to delete a new message 3 times???
 

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1. I have to delete the msg from the user, it then goes to the deleted folder.
2. I have to remove it from the deleted folder it then makes it's way into the recoverable folder.
3. Then I have to remove it from the recoverable folder or let it stay there 30 days and them MS will remove it.

This is insane.
 

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1. I have to delete the msg from the user, it then goes to the deleted folder.
2. I have to remove it from the deleted folder it then makes it's way into the recoverable folder.
3. Then I have to remove it from the recoverable folder or let it stay there 30 days and them MS will remove it.

This is insane.

Lige or Benny must have helped design this!
 

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Well I sent a Msg to MS and they were no help, surprise- surprise.
 

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Lige or Benny must have helped design this!
Go on the Feedback Hub... make a new feature request, "Add an option to undelete messages from the recoverable folder". :D
 

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One annoying problem I have see after switching to the new outlook is when a message comes into my inbox then I mark it as read then I delete it and it goes into the deleted items folder then it now shows it as unread and it needs to be marked as read again.
I liked the old mail way better than this new outlook.
 

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