Nightmare after Windows 11 update

Ultrarunner22 · May 15, 2025

That's a lot of money for my budget, especially when my need for file sharing is infrequent.
I did find one alternative to using the USB thumb drive (sneaker net) though;
I have an FTP server app on my Android phone which I use to transfer photos or documents between my desktop or laptop and the phone.
So I can FTP the necessary folder from the desktop to the phone, then FTP it back to the laptop from the phone.
I did try to get Filezilla FTP Server set up on my desktop (so I wouldn't need to use the phone) but never got it working.

I have tried turning off ESET Security Ultimate but that had no effect.
There was one thread I read about enabling SMB1 on the computer with the shared files, but that didn't work either. Besides, I really don't want to use an outdated and insecure protocol.

If you ask me, I think this is all a ploy by Microsoft to get people onboard with paid subs to OneDrive or to purchase MS 365 with OneDrive included.

As far as the NAS, what gives Windows the ability to connect to it when it cannot connect to another Windows 11 computer?
Maybe I will try creating a NAS using my Ubuntu box. It would be free if it works.

gunrunnerjohn · May 15, 2025

Ultrarunner22 said:
That's a lot of money for my budget, especially when my need for file sharing is infrequent.
I did find one alternative to using the USB thumb drive (sneaker net) though;

Well, you mentioned buying disks for a Linux box, so you were halfway there. If an additional $200 strains the budget, then I guess I'd stick with sneaker net.

Ultrarunner22 · May 15, 2025

Actually, I already have enough storage on the Linux box, including a 500GB SSD.
I guess the next question would be which NAS software to use. There is a good thread here, or was it in Reddit?
I have an old Rpi 3B+ running 24/7 that I use as a music player (from the OS, not a streaming device) which plays through an add-on 'hat' on the pi, then connected to my old stereo receiver and speakers. I play 'sleep music' all night. I don't think that old pi could handle a NAS though.

I am really annoyed that Microsoft has broken Windows networking. It worked for a long time on Windows 10, and for a short while on 11.

Ultrarunner22 · May 25, 2025

Update:
I did a clean reinstall of Windows 11 Pro.
So far so good. I downloaded the latest setup using the Media Creation tool.
Updates were successfully installed during Windows installation.
Checking for updates now shows I am up to date.

Several things that appeared to be broken with my previous install are now fixed; I can now reposition icons on the taskbar. That feature stopped working at one point with no explanation.
I am going to create a full partition backup every time I install any Windows updates to prevent such a nightmare in the future.

Previous to doing the clean reinstall, I attempted to run the update in safe mode with networking, but was unable to do so.
I guess I could have tried another in-place reinstall while in safe mode, but my experience with Windows is that when something breaks, a fresh reinstall is the best method to fix it.
Of course I need to reinstall all of my apps, but this gives me the opportunity to rid myself of apps I installed then uninstalled. Just as with Windows updates, I will always create a backup before installing new apps that may break windows.

I hope this thread is of some help to others who are having the same problems with Windows 11.

Winuser · May 25, 2025

Ultrarunner22 said:
Do you think it's worth buying the Pro version?

That's a personal choice question. For me the answer is yes. The last time I upgraded to a newer version I went with the portable version.

TraderGary · May 26, 2025

Ultrarunner22 said:
If I need a large backup drive, I will buy a NAS. I would much rather have all my data at home.

I prefer to always have my backups in at least 3 places, one of which must always be offsite. OneDrive fulfills my always offsite requirement.

gunrunnerjohn · May 26, 2025

TraderGary said:
I prefer to always have my backups in at least 3 places, one of which must always be offsite. OneDrive fulfills my always offsite requirement.

MEGA handles my offsite requirement, and locally I have three backups of everything. My most important stuff is backed up daily, and anything else is backed up at least weekly. I also have a bi-weekly backup of everything to one of two 4TB SSD drives. That conveniently also serves to do any needed refresh of the SSD data to prevent any bit rot.

Ultrarunner22 · May 26, 2025

I haven't been doing any off-site backups. I guess I really should, in case the unthinkable disaster happens.
I don't like OneDrive because Microsoft has too much control over how my files are synched. I was angry that OneDrive moved my documents folder without my knowledge. I'll check out MEGA and other solutions.
The only reason I might use OneDrive is that I already have a 365 sub, but you get what you pay for, and since OneDrive is free with 365, it's probably not the optimal solution.

I would use OneDrive and turn off syncing, but with the next Windows update, it will probably be turned back on.

gunrunnerjohn · May 26, 2025

I got MEGA with 50GB when it first started and that's a free account. If they ever reascend that option, I'll have to consider my options again. I also use Dropbox, but only for transient files and to automatically save my phone camera pictures/videos. I move them out once I get back to my computer.

Truthfully, it would have to be a fairly major disaster to kill all of my local backups. I like my on-line backup as I have up-to-date copies of all my important data on my phone anytime I need it. Even if I dip three copies in to the local backup, at most the data is two weeks old.

Ultrarunner22 · May 26, 2025

My worst fear is fire. That said, I am vigilent with electricity and gas, and no one in the household smokes. We have interconnected smoke alarms and CO alarms.
Funny thing about data backups is that we never worried about paper documents so much as we worry about electronic docs. I guess one reason is that there's a whole lot more data today than 50 years ago.
The only really important data I keep is my Scrivener files. I spend a lot of time writing - for fun mostly, but I have dreams of writing a novel - and I wouldn't want to lose those files. All of my banking info is online with the bank, and I keep a secure - local - database of all my passwords on my Windows PC and my phone, syncing them regularly. So, as long as I can grab my phone, I should be good to go once the smoke clears.

If on the other hand we are hit with an EMP - as in the Alex Fletcher novel set I am now listening to - then I'm screwed. The PC would go first, since it's connected to the power grid, but my phone is normally not, so an EMP would have to be pretty strong to kill it.
Then again, I'm not sure I would want to live in a post-apocalyptic world if it's anything like the novels I have been listening to.

TraderGary · May 26, 2025

Ultrarunner22 said:
I haven't been doing any off-site backups. I guess I really should, in case the unthinkable disaster happens.
I don't like OneDrive because Microsoft has too much control over how my files are synched. I was angry that OneDrive moved my documents folder without my knowledge. I'll check out MEGA and other solutions.
The only reason I might use OneDrive is that I already have a 365 sub, but you get what you pay for, and since OneDrive is free with 365, it's probably not the optimal solution.

The way I look at it, my Microsoft 365 subscription is for OneDrive, and I get Microsoft Office and the rest for free! :wink:

Ultrarunner22 said:
I would use OneDrive and turn off syncing, but with the next Windows update, it will probably be turned back on.

I've been using OneDrive as the offsite part of my backup strategy for over 16 years. My C: Drive is 1TB and I keep all my data and all my photos in my OneDrive folder. I turn Files One Demand to OFF. This mirrors everything both locally and, in cloud OneDrive, thus keeping all my files in perfect sync in real-time as I work. I can never lose even a minute of my work. The way I work, I would never feel secure without my real-time sync of OneDrive.

The local part of my backup strategy is making daily Macrium Reflect drive images alternating on two 4TB Samsung T9 portable SSD's. Each SSD contains 7 rotating images, and I always have backup images for the last 14 days. My images are currently taking less than 3 minutes to make.

Edwin · May 26, 2025

My backup strategy is handing all my precious content over to my kids and have them take responsibility for it.
Cuz frankly, when they drive the last nail into my coffin, I don't give a sh*t anymore!

gunrunnerjohn · May 27, 2025

Ultrarunner22 said:
My worst fear is fire. That said, I am vigilent with electricity and gas, and no one in the household smokes. We have interconnected smoke alarms and CO alarms.
Funny thing about data backups is that we never worried about paper documents so much as we worry about electronic docs. I guess one reason is that there's a whole lot more data today than 50 years ago.

Well, fire would certainly be bad, but since my house has automatic sprinklers and a central fire alarm, the chances of total destruction in a fire is probably fairly small. Besides, if I lost everything, it wouldn't be the end of the world, I'd survive.

Ultrarunner22 · May 27, 2025

I have been backing up to a Western Digital 'Elements' 1.5TB USB HDD, but it is sooo slow compared to a much newer 500GB Samsung SSD on USB 3.2 gen 2.
I want to replace the Elements hard drive with a large SSD. I need 2TB to hold all of my backups.
Any recommendations for a fast SSD?

gunrunnerjohn · May 27, 2025

Ultrarunner22 said:
I have been backing up to a Western Digital 'Elements' 1.5TB USB HDD, but it is sooo slow compared to a much newer 500GB Samsung SSD on USB 3.2 gen 2.
I want to replace the Elements hard drive with a large SSD. I need 2TB to hold all of my backups.
Any recommendations for a fast SSD?

When I replaced my USB drives, I used NVMe drives in a USB enclosure. They compact and fast. I only connect them for the periodic backups, otherwise they're off-line. Since over the course of three-four months, all the data gets totally replaced on the drive, I don't have to be concerned about bit-rot due to lack of refresh the SSD data.

FIDECO M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, USB 3.2 Gen 2 to M.2 NVMe Enclosure

This is the SSD I put into the enclosures.

Samsung 990 EVO Plus SSD 4TB, PCIe Gen 4x4

My backups are pleasingly fast now.

TraderGary · May 27, 2025

Ultrarunner22 said:
I have been backing up to a Western Digital 'Elements' 1.5TB USB HDD, but it is sooo slow compared to a much newer 500GB Samsung SSD on USB 3.2 gen 2.
I want to replace the Elements hard drive with a large SSD. I need 2TB to hold all of my backups.
Any recommendations for a fast SSD?

Backup speed is important to me. I've been using Samsung T series portable SSD drives for the past few years. Currently I'm using two Samsung 4TB T9 Portable SSD drives. My current backup image size is approximately 300 GB and takes just under 3 minutes to make. I store a revolving 7 backup images on each drive. I use Macrium Reflect Ver. 10.

Ultrarunner22 · May 27, 2025

I like the Samsung. I have a 500GB Samsung T5, so the T7 would be an upgrade, not only for capacity but for speed.
I ran Crystal Disk Benchmark earlier. The results were astounding:
The Elements drive was plugged into a USB 3.2 Gen 2 port and had Sequential read 40.89 MB/s Write 40.57 MB/s, Random Read 0.75 MB/s Write 0.94 MB/s

Compare to the Samsung T5 plugged into the same USB 3.2 Gen 2 port:
Sequential read 564 MB/s, write 531 MB/s, Sequential read - RND4K Q3T1 read 241.5 MB/s write 206.9 MB/s, RND4K Q1T1 read 30.4 MB/s write 41 MB/s

And of course the two 1TB WD M.2 SSD's on the mobo were:
SEQ1M Q8T1 Read: 2453.5 MB/s, Write: 1986 MB/s, SEQ1M Q1T1 Read: 1848.22 Write 1987.3 MB/s, and RND4K Q1T1 read 47.73 MB/s write 129 MB/s

I could buy a USB 3.2 Gen 2 SSD that can read / write almost as fast as the M.2 drives, but I don't need that kind of speed for backups and they generally cost about 2X as much as the ones that read/write up to 1050 MB/s.

I think I'll go for the Samsung T7. The only question is whether to get the 2TB or spend an extra $100 to get the 4TB. Given what's going on with China these days, it might pay for me to buy the 4TB drive now.

gunrunnerjohn · May 27, 2025

My external USB 4TB drives are on a USB 3.2 Gen 1 port give me this result. I could probably do better with the Gen 2 port, but it's what I have.

I have two internal NVMe drives, they do a bit better.

I also have an internal 2TB SATA drive, needless to say it doesn't really match the speeds of the NVMe drives.

Ultrarunner22 · May 27, 2025

Wow! Your NVME drives are much faster than mine, but then, my build is 5yrs old.
It's an Asus Tuf Gaming X570 Plus WiFi with AMD Ryzen 7 3700 X @ 3.6 GHZ, and 32GB of RAM.
I'm not convinced that upgrading the NVME drives would be worthwhile on a 5yr old mobo.

I ordered the Samsung T7 4TB for $269 on Amazon. I figured it was worth the extra $100 for the 4TB over the 2TB.

gunrunnerjohn · May 27, 2025

Bigger is usually better for drives, and SSD drives like to be no more than around 75-80% full, they slow down a bunch when they get close to full.

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