No start menu or taskbar shortcuts menu

Tweakfiend

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Hi
I have been running Windows 11 Pro on Surface Go for 2 months and is ok in a limited sense.

I have now tried same on main PC but cannot overcome the problem of running start menu program ( such as Open shell ) and taskbar shortcuts program (such as Truelaunchbar etc ) which I have been using since XP.

To get these to work requires a taskbar registry entry to re enable drag and drop.

This taskbar entry removes the "widget" icon and also disables "search" on taskbar in Windows 11.

Without this one cannot see any programs or shortcuts on the system, so I have reverted back to Windows 10 !
Alternative suggestions would be much appreciated .
 

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For the start menu, there are a few threads right here in personalization section that will get oyu going:



As for pinned items on the taskbar, we have a very comprehensive tutorial written by our MVP Brink that should cover about every aspect of it that you can currently do in Windows 11:


As for moving the taskbar - yeah, Microsoft has limited it to center and left at the bottom only. But there are some interesting hacks on the taskbar itself for various purposes that you can check out in this thread:


HTH
 

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Tweakfiend

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Thanks JLG

Had not seen Stardock Start menu 11, although I have used their programs for years !
Works well.

Open Shell is a bit better although is outdated and does not seem to load without taskbar problem hack .

Will keep trying , but toolbar loaders on taskbar such as Truelaunchbar dont seem to work based on Shawns file and folder loading suggestions.

Perhaps new ideas will arrive soon .

Maybe its me !
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
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    PC/Desktop
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    CPU
    Pentium I9 9900K
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z390
    Memory
    40 GB Corsair Dominator Platinum
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD RX590 8GB Special
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" Samsung V32F390 Curved Screen TV /PC
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung M2 500GB ( Main ), + 5 SATA internal / external drives
    PSU
    1000 w
    Case
    NZXT Phantom Phan 002GR
    Cooling
    Fortis 3 HE1425
    Keyboard
    Seenda Luminous
    Mouse
    1) Aston Martin DB9 Car ,2) McLaren Yellow P2 car , 3) Seenda Wireless
    Internet Speed
    220 mbps
    Browser
    Many
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Internet suite
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
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    Microsoft Surface Go
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    8GB
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    128 GB and 256 GB Micro SD

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More likely it's Windows 11 - they restructured a lot of the coding that went into the taskbar in and of itself when compared to Windows 10, and the stat menu as well, and those threads show that a lot of new hacks are only just now being developed to make things work more like some users want them to, not to mention new apps to restore old functionality.
 

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    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
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    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
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    4 * Corsair Vengeance 32 GB 3600 MHz
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    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
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    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
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    2* 1920*1080
    Hard Drives
    3x Sabrent Rocket PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 1 TB SSD (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB)
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM --> RAID1
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 x64 Pro build 21H1
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    Dell Latitude E5470
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
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    Dell
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    16 GB
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    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
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    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
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    Dell
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    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Dell TouchPad
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    Dell
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More likely it's Windows 11 - they restructured a lot of the coding that went into the taskbar in and of itself when compared to Windows 10, and the stat menu as well, and those threads show that a lot of new hacks are only just now being developed to make things work more like some users want them to, not to mention new apps to restore old functionality.
I wonder when those hacks will no longer work? Yes.. they can keep changing them to keep up with 11 but is there a chance that MS will lock them out?
 

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Probably not. I mean look at all the hacks for Windows 10 that still work.

As long as it's not a major security issue, it shouldn't really be a problem. People have been hacking the Windows interface since Windows 95, and sometimes Microsoft has even adopted a hack or three in the next version of an OS.

One of my faves was a beautiful glass look for XP. Sure enough, Microsoft started toying with Glassy Aero on Win 7. Still not as nice as what you could achieve with 3rd party hacks, but it was a step in the right direction IMO.
 

My Computers

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  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * Corsair Vengeance 32 GB 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2* 1920*1080
    Hard Drives
    3x Sabrent Rocket PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 1 TB SSD (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB)
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM --> RAID1
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 x64 Pro build 21H1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
    Browser
    Edge Chromium | Chrome | Firefox Nightly | Brave
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB4
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