Solved On Screen Keyboard starts with Windows regardless of what I do


Hi,
I'd say if the accessibility/ keyboard off setting doesn't work "which is a weird option to be ignored" it's time for a refresh install.
I use an activated Windows 11 in a Virtual Machine, so when I have problems, I don't care that much. My base system is still Windows 10, which I will use until I see a Build of WIndows 11 I am confident in.
 

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    Windows 11 Professional (x64)
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    Dell Inc. G16
    CPU
    Intel Core i9
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0FDMYT A00
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    16 GB
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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX
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Hi,
Well if these don't help then yeah life is short lol so just make a new vm if you don't have a system image when it didn't popup to go back to.
sfc /scannow
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
 

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Hi,
Well if these don't help then yeah life is short lol so just make a new vm if you don't have a system image when it didn't popup to go back to.
sfc /scannow
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
Found and fixed a lot of errors. Thanks for the commands. They are not unfamiliar to me, but I just didn't think of using them. Anyway, errors fixed and we'll see if that fixes the crashes. I suspect it will.

bob
 

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    Dell Inc. G16
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    Intel Core i9
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    Dell Inc. 0FDMYT A00
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    16 GB
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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX
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    Realtek(R) Audio
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    2560 x 1600
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    Dell
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    Dell
Installed it. Rebooted, then looked at Autoruns. It's quite comprehensive in its report. So much so that I don't know what it is exactly that I am looking at or for. Perhaps you can elaborate some.
There are numerous tutorials and video's online for Autoruns.
It isn't possible to give a detailed walkthrough here of why Autoruns is so useful but I can give some short comments about it.

There are many tabs in the applet, the key ones for me are:

Logons: Mostly shows apps that start during Windows bootup. Good for finding unwanted apps that are starting up during bootup.
Services: Lists all the Window services that are enabled during bootup.
Drivers: Which drivers are enabled during bootup. Very useful if there are driver issues during bootup (e.g. BSOD's caused by drivers at startup time)

With any entry it is possible to right click it in Autoruns and select the Jump to Entry... option on the menu and it takes you straight to the Registry Editor (Regedit) for that item. Selecting the Jump to Image... option opens up File Explorer in the folder where the relevant system file is located.

Another use it has is for tracking down malware at bootup time.
Unticking any app, driver etc. stops it from starting at bootup (discretion is advised when doing this).
 
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    AMD Ryzen 5 4500U
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    512 GB PCIe® NVMe
There are numerous tutorials and video's online for Autoruns.
It isn't possible to give a detailed walkthrough here of why Autoruns is so useful but I can give some short comments about it.

There are many tabs in the applet, the key ones for me are:

Logons: Mostly shows apps that start during Windows bootup. Good for finding unwanted apps that are starting up during bootup.
Services: Lists all the Window services that are enabled during bootup.
Drivers: Which drivers are enabled during bootup. Very useful if there are driver issues during bootup (e.g. BSOD's caused by drivers at startup time)

With any entry it is possible to right click it in Autoruns and select the Jump to Entry... option on the menu and it takes you straight to the Registry Editor (Regedit) for that item. Selecting the Jump to Image... option opens up File Explorer in the folder where the relevant system file is located.

Another use it has is for tracking down malware at bootup time.
Unticking any app, driver etc. stops it from starting at bootup (discretion is advised when doing this).
In none of those areas you you suggested (Logon, Services, Drivers) do I see anything related to osk.exe.

But thanks for explaining a very complex utility (autoruns). I have already used it to stop another slightly annoying program that used to plague me and it worked just fine.

bob
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Professional (x64)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inc. G16
    CPU
    Intel Core i9
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0FDMYT A00
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX
    Sound Card
    Realtek(R) Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor (15.3"vis)
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    4TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell
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    Laptop
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    Air
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    Dell
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    Logitech
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    10 Mbps (Dismal, slow DSL over phone line)
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    Webroot SecureAnywhere
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Dell
I tried another "fix". I installed nop.exe which is a program that has the sole function of doing absolutely nothing. Then I renamed it osk.exe and copied it to my C:\Windows\Systems32 subdirectory. Now when Windows starts, it starts normally with no On Screen Keyboard coming up at all. I never did find out what is calling osk.exe up on bootup after looking at all the suggested places that were in this thread. But now I am not plagued with an unwanted keyboard that pops up every time I boot up.

I still can use the oncreen KB if I use the command oskb.exe if ever I want to, which is likely never.

bob
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Professional (x64)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inc. G16
    CPU
    Intel Core i9
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0FDMYT A00
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX
    Sound Card
    Realtek(R) Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor (15.3"vis)
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    4TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Air
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    10 Mbps (Dismal, slow DSL over phone line)
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Webroot SecureAnywhere
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
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