Paging File in Windows 11 - System managed or Custom Sized

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32GB of RAM here. Have a question, is there a difference in performance for the Paging file in Windows 11 if it is set to System Managed vs Custom Sized? If Custom Sized, what should I set it to? Thanks!
 

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No difference in performance. With 32GB of memory, you don`t need a page file.

I haven`t used a page file in over 10 years, no need unless a program demands it, and you`ll gain valuable space back from your SSD.

Not to mention the wear and tear :)
 

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Doesn't it depend on how many tasks one is using as my main usage is really I have like 200 browser tabs in Chrome and Microsoft EDGE combined even though most are sleeping. That was why I thought the system managed is better because it won't take up a big amount of space unless it needs it compared to the custom set sized page file.
 

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No page file will make some Apps act up, set to a Fixed 4GB (even on a smaller SSD not much to loose) and forget about it and even Photoshop will work with that size.

SDD will wear anyhow due to Windows constant small writes, my OS is 95% Health but Storage (including all my downloads) is still 100%.

By time is is far less it will be time for an upgrade to faster OS drive but it is a Samsung 860 Pro so the fastest 2.5" SSD you get and the Storage drives are 2x 4TB 860 Evo's.
 
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You can reduce the amount of PageFile fragmentation by configuring costume size.

1. Disable PageFile by clicking “No Paging file”.
2. Click Set button and click OK.
3. Open Command Prompt as administrator.
4. Type Defrag C: /x /h to perform free space consolidation on the specified volume.
5. After free space consolidation, finish.
6. Set paging file to a fixed size.
7. Click “Custom size
8. Type 1.5 times of RAM installed on PC so if you PC has 500 MB RAM type 750 into “Initial size (MB)” and “Maximum size (MB)” fields.
9. Click Set and OK button in the Virtual Memory window to accept changes.
 

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1.5x (the Windows default in past) was ok in days of 256MB/1GB of memory but now that would be massive as many have 16GB-32GB, and SSD's not large Mech HDD's

There is no need for any more than 4-8GB Fixed for any App I have seen (Photoshop etc),
 

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No difference in performance. With 32GB of memory, you don`t need a page file.

I haven`t used a page file in over 10 years, no need unless a program demands it, and you`ll gain valuable space back from your SSD.

Not to mention the wear and tear :)

You want a page file of, I believe it is, around 900 MB in order to be able to take a system crash dump if you crash. Besides that, you will likely not need any more than that with that much RAM.
 

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You can reduce the amount of PageFile fragmentation by configuring costume size.
And if your pagefile is on an SSD then fragmentation has no bearing on performance.
 

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And if your pagefile is on an SSD then fragmentation has no bearing on performance.
I know that i have no pagefile on my system, which has 16GB RAM and SSD.
 

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I would just leave it as system managed but its harder to advise when you haven't filled in your system specs.
 

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Mine is set by the system at 4978MB, I am going to turn it off for a day or two just out of curiosity :)
 

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I've done that before in the past, I didn't have any issues doing it and I don't think it's so much of a problem as it once was.
 

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I would just leave it as system managed but its harder to advise when you haven't filled in your system specs.
Hard to give system specs because I might change systems as it's only a temporary system and I meant in general. I did put specs in the first post.
 

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I'm always upgrading but I update the specs at the time.
 

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I'm always upgrading but I update the specs at the time.
Need to find time for it first as getting older in life, there are other priorities since I haven't even had time to unpack the 250+ 25kg boxes here yet after moving and will not unpack or actually be picky about a system as the entire house will be completely torn down and what I buy couldn't be used for 2 years so it will just be collecting dust. But regardless, what other specs do you really need because it's really a simple one, does custom paging size offer any performance advantages over system managed and remember it's about how much physical ram there is which I already mentioned in the original post. Don't need to make it more complicated than that as it is more of a generic question about your personal experience with your system.
 
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    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
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A number of aspects of your systems configuration could affect pagefile performance here. While its mostly down to the drives and RAM, CPU could play a small part too.

It would just be helpful in case of future help you require that we can just simply check your specs without needing to ask.
 

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    Ryzen 9 3900x
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    Asus Strix x570-E
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    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32Gb@3600MHz
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    Asus Strix 3080 Ti OC
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    Samsung Odyssey G7 32" Curved Gaming Monitor, IIYAMA XUB2792QSU-W1 27"
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    Samsung 980 Pro 1 Tb (OS), Samsung 970 Pro 1 Tb (games), Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb (data), Samsung 860 Evo 4 Tb (games), Crucial MX500 1Tb (photos), WD MyCloud Mirror 6Tb NAS.
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    Corsair RM850x
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    Corsair Crystal 680x
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    Corsair H100i Se Platinum, 8 Corsair QL120/140 fans
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    Corsair K70 RGB Mk 2 SE Rapid Fire
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    Corsair M65 Elite
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    Ryzen 5600x
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    Asus Strix B550-E
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    Corsair Vengeance 32Gb@3200MHz
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    Asus Strix XG43VQ 43" Ultrawide
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    3840x1200 @ 120Mhz
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    Aorus Gen 4 NVMe 1 Tb (Windows Insider), Samsung 850 Pro 512Gb (data), Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb (files), Samsung 860 Evo 2Tb (Manjaro), Blu-ray player
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    Corsair RM750i
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    Fractal Define R6
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    Scythe Mugen 5 rev B and Corsair QL fans
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    Glorious Model D
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    Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Low Profile Rapidfire
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A number of aspects of your systems configuration could affect pagefile performance here. While its mostly down to the drives and RAM, CPU could play a small part too.

It would just be helpful in case of future help you require that we can just simply check your specs without needing to ask.
Good points. The issue with CPUs to be honest is I liked how it was done in the old days where the speed is specified and easily remembered instead of how it's called now like Intel Core i7 8750H for example that unless I looked it up online, I wouldn't even remember what it is. Just the site is new and I need to find some time to put all the correct info in which I wouldn't know off the top of my head as these are notebooks and not machines where I built it myself and know the actual specs.
 

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    Computer type
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    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
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    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
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    Dell XPS 15 9570
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    SwitftPoint ProPoint
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One program I used to use is Speccy from the makers of ccleaner, but it's not been updated since 2018 so won't have any information on Ryzen builds. Should be fine for your era machine though.
 

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    Windows 10
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    CPU
    Ryzen 9 3900x
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    Asus Strix x570-E
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32Gb@3600MHz
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    Asus Strix 3080 Ti OC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Odyssey G7 32" Curved Gaming Monitor, IIYAMA XUB2792QSU-W1 27"
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    2560x1440@240Hz, 2560x1440@70Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1 Tb (OS), Samsung 970 Pro 1 Tb (games), Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb (data), Samsung 860 Evo 4 Tb (games), Crucial MX500 1Tb (photos), WD MyCloud Mirror 6Tb NAS.
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Corsair Crystal 680x
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i Se Platinum, 8 Corsair QL120/140 fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB Mk 2 SE Rapid Fire
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    Corsair M65 Elite
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    58/12 Mbps
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    Microsoft Edge
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    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Astro a50 Headset, Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Tablet.
    Creative T6300 5.1 Speakers. TPM 2.0 Module.
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    Windows 10 Pro Insider 64-bit/Manjaro KDE
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    Self Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5600x
    Motherboard
    Asus Strix B550-E
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance 32Gb@3200MHz
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    Gigabyte RTX2070 Super Gaming OC
    Sound Card
    Creative Soundblaster AE-5
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    Asus Strix XG43VQ 43" Ultrawide
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    3840x1200 @ 120Mhz
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    Aorus Gen 4 NVMe 1 Tb (Windows Insider), Samsung 850 Pro 512Gb (data), Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb (files), Samsung 860 Evo 2Tb (Manjaro), Blu-ray player
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    Corsair RM750i
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    Fractal Define R6
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    Scythe Mugen 5 rev B and Corsair QL fans
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    Glorious Model D
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    Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Low Profile Rapidfire
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I have 16GB of RAM... I just set the Page File at 3072 MB, for both min and max.
I don't think any Page File is necessary, but it IS supposed to remember which programs you use all the time... ??

As for Speccy... it sees my Ryzen CPU? 3000 series at least. :)

This pic is from May 2021.
SPECCY May 2021.png
 

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    Win 10 Home 10.0.22000.282 (x64)
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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    (onboard) Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    LG GH22LS30 CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    COOLER MASTER ATCS 840 Full Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    Logitech Optical M-100
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    100/100
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    Firefox (latest)
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    Bitdefender Internet Security 2020
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    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    Built by Ghot®
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
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    100/100
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    Firefox 3.x ??
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    Symantec (Norton)
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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hmm it didnt see my 3900x when I tried it a while ago.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 3900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Strix x570-E
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32Gb@3600MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Strix 3080 Ti OC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Odyssey G7 32" Curved Gaming Monitor, IIYAMA XUB2792QSU-W1 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440@240Hz, 2560x1440@70Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1 Tb (OS), Samsung 970 Pro 1 Tb (games), Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb (data), Samsung 860 Evo 4 Tb (games), Crucial MX500 1Tb (photos), WD MyCloud Mirror 6Tb NAS.
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Corsair Crystal 680x
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i Se Platinum, 8 Corsair QL120/140 fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB Mk 2 SE Rapid Fire
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Elite
    Internet Speed
    58/12 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Astro a50 Headset, Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Tablet.
    Creative T6300 5.1 Speakers. TPM 2.0 Module.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro Insider 64-bit/Manjaro KDE
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5600x
    Motherboard
    Asus Strix B550-E
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance 32Gb@3200MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX2070 Super Gaming OC
    Sound Card
    Creative Soundblaster AE-5
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus Strix XG43VQ 43" Ultrawide
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1200 @ 120Mhz
    Hard Drives
    Aorus Gen 4 NVMe 1 Tb (Windows Insider), Samsung 850 Pro 512Gb (data), Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb (files), Samsung 860 Evo 2Tb (Manjaro), Blu-ray player
    PSU
    Corsair RM750i
    Case
    Fractal Define R6
    Cooling
    Scythe Mugen 5 rev B and Corsair QL fans
    Mouse
    Glorious Model D
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Low Profile Rapidfire
    Internet Speed
    58/12 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Corsair Virtuoso Headset
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