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Any news, did you find a workaround? In 5 days the older 259x builds will expire and i would like to save it. :D

I have the same problem, boot from a stick and get stuck at windows logo with no spinning thing. I can tell the system freezes because the numlock and capslock leds won't work anymore.
Tried with Rufus 4.2 with no TPM option and still get stuck at logo.

LE:
I got past the logo with the release build Win11_22H2_English_x64v2, so it has something to do with the insider builds, they are doing additional checks or something.
 
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    Gigabit
News? Yes and no.
I was wandering on the interwebs and found a French forum. Well... all over the net they are rumbling about same problem: MS will be forcing users to leave old-ancient platforms.
In the forum, some user did a experiment with xeon and turion and these 2 failed except with hp 6200, which worked. The 259xx are simply blocking old cpu/chipset.Ra
I usually go online shopping and found a very affordable 2nd hand machine from a shop where I usually buy stuff like light bulbs, solder... etc and I went to the "refurbished" section. I found an HP Elite 8300 CMT at a cheap price. Just the case with an Intel I7-3770, 8gb (2x 4gb ddr3 1600), the mobo, dvd drive, and a 256gb go-infinity ssd. It arrived 2 days later. Such fantastic machine.
I had trouble to unpack it.... 2 layers of cardboard box and plastic wrapped. It is a piece of art above my desk.
I got familiarized with the pc case. It is a case where we can leave it as a tower or rest over the desk (we can rotare the dvd drive).
The pc case had some amount of dust... I don't know how they keep these pc case stored but... not in a good way.
I hooked the power, vga cable (already purchased displayport->hdmi dongle), keyboard/mouse receiver and powered the machine. It had windows 10 19042 installed on Jan 22 2021.
Powered it off... and hooked the ssd containing the build 25393 and it booted fine. I was able to reach the Desktop. Windows was nagging me again about expiration. I connected it to the net and let it download the drivers and such.
Then powered it down. Added 2x 4gb DDR3-1333 sticks I had laying around.... now it has 16gb ddr3-1333 instead of running at 1600mhz.
I also added the Radeon HD 4650 from the other machine. Once the dongle arrives, the gfx card it to be removed. I added the Radeon card because it has DVI and VGA and my LCD has dvi->Hdmi cable. It seems the gfx capabilities of the ivy bridge are better than the radeon hd 4650. The Raderon hd 4650 card has also a small fan which are noticeable in such lowish noise machine.
Moving on...
Then I compiled a 25947 build and Installed it over the 25393.
Then I did other things like Installing the chipset drivers from Intel but I downloaded these drivers from a DELL site because the HP site kinda sucks (now windows10+ listed and no chipset drivers available).
I also had trouble updating the bios. I downloaded the 3.08 (2019) from the hp site, I ran it from within Windows, it "flashed" the bios... but the old version 2.90 (2013) was still installed. Then I had go deeper... Put the files from DOS flash folder to a USB flash drive and went to the bios and tried to flash.... It said incompatible something. I had to investigate and then I found out that I had to install version 2.99 first.... luckily I found the bios, flashed it from within bios and then upgraded to 3.08. I don't notice any change... I need to read the history.
I also enabled virtualization and directed I/o within bios.

And that's it.

Unfortunately this isn't an workaround but a solution kind-of. If I put the ssd back inside the other machine, it will not boot obviously.
Maybe you want to look for cheap refurbished repurposed machines and use them.
 

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    Asrock G41C-GS R2.0
    Memory
    8GB DDR3-1333 at 1000MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 4650 1GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated on-board
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    Acer 24 Inch
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    1920x1080
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    KINGSTON A400 120GB SSD and 2x 500GB HDDs
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    Generic 400W
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    Custom
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    3x 8cm fans plus 12cm from PSU
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    Horrible Conceptronic ORAZIO keyboard from combo
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    Horrible Conceptronic ORAZIO mouse from combo
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    1Gbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    Windows 11 Pro build 25393
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    Laptop
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    Acer Aspire 5930G
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    Intel Core2Duo P8800
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    Refurbished motherboard from eBay
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    2x 2GB DDR2-800
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    Nvidia Geforce 9600M GT
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    Builtin Sound
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    Builtin LCD but sometimes I hook an 24" FHD display
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Sandisk PLUS 120GB SSD
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    90W laptop brick I refurbished
    Case
    Dead Acer Aspire 5930G chassis
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    Tilted laptop
    Mouse
    Generic usb corded mouse, I don't like to use the touchpad
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    Wireless NGS keyboard from a combo, the receiver stopped recognizing the mouse
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    1Gbpz ... Wi-Fi wireless n
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    Firefox
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    Windows Defender
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    I'm an cheapskate and I don't pay for software which I think it doesn't worth.
Hi there

If you run as a VM you CAN install on an MBR disk -- keep sec boot off, no TPM in the VM software and do a dism /APPLY-IMAGE as described in many posts on the Forum.

After you've done that when creating the bootloader just run bcdboot with the /f parameter as /F MBR.
You'll have to create a separate small boot partition though - and remember the limitation of MBR disks --only 4 physical partitions -- and as for Logical partitions -- Dont even THINK of going there.

You should be able to clone your VM to the real machine and update hardware for drivers as VM systems on whatever platform "Virtualise a lot of hardware" so these things can run on almost any hardware,

Standard updates will work but when the time comes for a new build the best way is to reverse the process -- I.E clone the real system to a VM and update from within the VM and then clone back again. Remember an update via WU or even setup.exe from an installation disk will fail on non compliant hardware hence the get around of cloning to a VM and updating from there.

Might seem a pain but sometimes if you really want to run modern OS'es on obsolete hardware you have to do a bit of jinxing around. Some mess around with registry tweaks or modifying / deleting .dll files or use customised install media made by rufus.

I've invariably found the method that always works for me whatever the circumstances and hardware is the "VM route" with cloning - once you get used to it it's actually very simple even if it looks complex and can take some time on older less powerful hardware.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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