Performance on "Real" vhdx drives compared with std drives


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Has anybody done any sort of reasonable testing about the performance of Windows when it's run from "Physical vhdx" drives (i.e not from within a virtual machine but as a physical disk) comared with "std" disks. I'd assume SSD's were being used in both cases and internal disks (i.e Windows isn;t being run as a Windows to Go system from externally attached usb device(s).

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Has anybody done any sort of reasonable testing about the performance of Windows when it's run from "Physical vhdx" drives (i.e not from within a virtual machine but as a physical disk) comared with "std" disks.
That is a really interesting question. I have two laptops set up to dual boot W10 and W11, one as a normal partition, the other as a native boot .vhdx. One laptop has an HDD, the other an SSD.

I had assumed there would be some performance penalty, and experience seems to confirm that, but I had never actually tested it. Now I have....

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C partition on physical SSD (Windows 10).pngC partition VHDX on SSD (Windows 11).png
 

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That is a really interesting question. I have two laptops set up to dual boot W10 and W11, one as a normal partition, the other as a native boot .vhdx. One laptop has an HDD, the other an SSD.

I had assumed there would be some performance penalty, and experience seems to confirm that, but I had never actually tested it. Now I have....

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Hi there.

Thanks for that test -- seems on SSD devices there;s really no significant differences that would be detectable by "Typical user" on standard Windows installs. Interesting though on "Non SSD" devices,

So it would appear so long as SSD / NVME devices being used there's only a miniscule if any penalty overhead in using the "VHDX" method.

I always thought that might be so but it's nice to see someone testing it.

So Thanks @Bree -- even though we've had different "Brexit" discussions in the past. !!!!!

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Thanks for that test -- seems on SSD devices there;s really no significant differences that would be detectable by "Typycal user"
Seems to be about a 10% hit on disk speeds for a .vhdx. 10% of SSD speeds is hardly noticeable, more so on an HDD which is slower to start with.
 

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Seems to be about a 10% hit on disk speeds for a .vhdx. 10% of SSD speeds is hardly noticeable, more so on an HDD which is slower to start with.
Probably not significant to typical users as the main delay would be in starting apps rather than actually running them.

Thanks again for running the tests.

BTW loving the world snooker final at the moment on BBC TV from Sheffield UK, -- great game and a far cry from my Grandad who was a volunteer in the British RAF in WWII who belived in that "Snooker wa a sign of a Mis-spent youth". !!!

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BTW loving the UK snooker final at the moment on BBC TV from Sheffield UK....
Me too. What do you think I was watching while I let those tests run? ;-)
 

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Me too. What do you think I was watching while I let those tests run? ;-)
Love it : !!

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Iceland gets this stuff without any hassle from BBC iPlayer -- Whatever the Brits think of BBC it's still got Brand quality - and I'd even suscribe as overseas paying viewer if that was possible. (VPN sorts me out though). It's still not all woke and hideous by a long way compared to almost any other broadcasting system planet wide.

OK it has problems but please Brits don't destroy it. It works !!!!!

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Then this will be welcome news....
Hi there

I liked it the other day when a Pigeon got in through the roof and settled on to the table -- I know a lot of infrastructure in the UK needs serious repairing but at a venue hosting a competition for a World International event. !!!!

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Not sure what this argument was about though.


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Anyway will be watching the conclusion on Monday with a good supply of Booze - although at this rate I don't think the final will need to go into 2 sessions to run through to completion (best of 35 frames with Ronnie O'sullivan already on 12).


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