Problems with antimalware defender update 4.18.2202.4


BrianInEngland

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Earlier today my partner's Forza Horizon 5 game crashed (it's done that a few times). Went to the Event viewer to see what happened - Event viewer wouldn't load, it was just the circle going round. Closed Event viewer, tried again, there was a message 'waiting for all snap-ins to load'. Nothing happened after that.
Opened Reliability Monitor, again nothing happened for ages, then it showed up completely blank as if it was a new Windows install.

Did a repair install, which took a very long time, much longer than the usual 20-30 minutes.

Here's where the fun starts - my PC did EXACTLY the same thing - no Event viewer, Reliability monitor not loading. Yes, two completely different PCs doing exactly the same thing this evening.

At first we thought it may be the new AMD chipset driver, we've both rolled back to the previous one but the problem hasn't gone away.
The only other explanation is an issue with the AnitMalware platform update yesterday. The problem started after that was installed.
 
Windows Build/Version
Windows 11 22000.588 release preview
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5900X 12-core
    Motherboard
    X570 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Platinum RGB 3600MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Asus ROG Strix 1000W
    Case
    Corsair D750 Airflow
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Asus ROG Flare
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Same think to me. Restart your machine and disable windows defender real time and check. With disabled defender pc works with enabled some programs dont open.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro latest
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600
    Motherboard
    Msi b550 gaming gen3
    Memory
    32 gb 3200 mhz xmp (4x8)
    Graphics Card(s)
    msi rtx3060 8gb
    Sound Card
    sound blaster audigy fx
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 222V8LA/00
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1080
    Hard Drives
    MX500 Crucial
    PSU
    corsair cv 750
    Case
    q-tech
    Cooling
    deepcool gammaxx 200t
    Keyboard
    k81 gigabyte force
    Mouse
    Viper V530
    Internet Speed
    100-10
    Browser
    Mozilla
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
  • Operating System
    windows 11 pro latest
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo T420
    CPU
    i5-2520M
    Memory
    8Gb ddr3 1333 mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    hd3000
    Sound Card
    on board
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Team group lite 3d 240gb
    Internet Speed
    100-10
    Antivirus
    defender
Same think to me. Restart your machine and disable windows defender real time and check. With disabled defender pc works with enabled some programs dont open.
This must be an issue with the Antimalware platform update earlier today
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5900X 12-core
    Motherboard
    X570 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Platinum RGB 3600MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Asus ROG Strix 1000W
    Case
    Corsair D750 Airflow
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Asus ROG Flare
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Don't have this issue, Intel based system, up to date.
Defender versions:
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2, build: 22621.521
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Scan 3XS Custom 1700
    CPU
    Intel i7-12700K 3.6GHz Base (5.0GHz Turbo)
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Creator B660 D4
    Memory
    64GB DDR 3600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Tuff RTX 3080 10GB OC
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte G32QC 32inch 16:9 curved @2560 x 1440p 165Hz Freesync Premium Pro/ Dell SE2422H 24inch 16:9 1920 x 1080p 75Hz Freesync
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440p & 1920 x 1080p
    Hard Drives
    WD SN570 1TB NVME (Boot), Samsung 870QVO 1TB (SSD), SanDisk 3D Ultra 500Gb (SSD) x2, Seagate 3Tb Expansion Desk (Ext HDD), 2x Toshiba 1Tb P300 (Ext HDD)
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000X Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Airflow Desktop
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H150i RGB Pro XT 360mm Liquid Cooler, 3 x 120mm fans, 1x Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    800Mbs
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Defender, Malwarebytes

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro latest
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600
    Motherboard
    Msi b550 gaming gen3
    Memory
    32 gb 3200 mhz xmp (4x8)
    Graphics Card(s)
    msi rtx3060 8gb
    Sound Card
    sound blaster audigy fx
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 222V8LA/00
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1080
    Hard Drives
    MX500 Crucial
    PSU
    corsair cv 750
    Case
    q-tech
    Cooling
    deepcool gammaxx 200t
    Keyboard
    k81 gigabyte force
    Mouse
    Viper V530
    Internet Speed
    100-10
    Browser
    Mozilla
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
  • Operating System
    windows 11 pro latest
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo T420
    CPU
    i5-2520M
    Memory
    8Gb ddr3 1333 mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    hd3000
    Sound Card
    on board
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Team group lite 3d 240gb
    Internet Speed
    100-10
    Antivirus
    defender
More findings if you open cmd, the antivirus will start freezing anything. The problem is the Antimalware platform update because i downgraded with a backup image that i have with macrium reflect and the when it updates the problem will start.
What is this magic....
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro latest
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600
    Motherboard
    Msi b550 gaming gen3
    Memory
    32 gb 3200 mhz xmp (4x8)
    Graphics Card(s)
    msi rtx3060 8gb
    Sound Card
    sound blaster audigy fx
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 222V8LA/00
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1080
    Hard Drives
    MX500 Crucial
    PSU
    corsair cv 750
    Case
    q-tech
    Cooling
    deepcool gammaxx 200t
    Keyboard
    k81 gigabyte force
    Mouse
    Viper V530
    Internet Speed
    100-10
    Browser
    Mozilla
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
  • Operating System
    windows 11 pro latest
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo T420
    CPU
    i5-2520M
    Memory
    8Gb ddr3 1333 mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    hd3000
    Sound Card
    on board
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Team group lite 3d 240gb
    Internet Speed
    100-10
    Antivirus
    defender
I'm intel and fully updated. Not seeing any of those problems.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3296
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
It seems that my two affected pc fixed with the definition update : 1.361.67.0
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro latest
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600
    Motherboard
    Msi b550 gaming gen3
    Memory
    32 gb 3200 mhz xmp (4x8)
    Graphics Card(s)
    msi rtx3060 8gb
    Sound Card
    sound blaster audigy fx
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 222V8LA/00
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1080
    Hard Drives
    MX500 Crucial
    PSU
    corsair cv 750
    Case
    q-tech
    Cooling
    deepcool gammaxx 200t
    Keyboard
    k81 gigabyte force
    Mouse
    Viper V530
    Internet Speed
    100-10
    Browser
    Mozilla
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
  • Operating System
    windows 11 pro latest
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo T420
    CPU
    i5-2520M
    Memory
    8Gb ddr3 1333 mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    hd3000
    Sound Card
    on board
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Team group lite 3d 240gb
    Internet Speed
    100-10
    Antivirus
    defender
It seems that my two affected pc fixed with the definition update : 1.361.67.0
I got 1.361.71 this morning, let's see what happens...

Update: Just restarted the PC, the problem is back
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5900X 12-core
    Motherboard
    X570 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Platinum RGB 3600MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Asus ROG Strix 1000W
    Case
    Corsair D750 Airflow
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Asus ROG Flare
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
As always, it can be a detective exercise.

First thing is to see if you get issue in safe mode.

Next clean install OS in a bootable vhd and update to latest build

Then install apps one by one, testing as you go along.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
As always, it can be a detective exercise.

First thing is to see if you get issue in safe mode.

Next clean install OS in a bootable vhd and update to latest build

Then install apps one by one, testing as you go along.
It's a weird problem that two PCs had yesterday. It seems to be ok again now, after Windows was loaded up for a while
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5900X 12-core
    Motherboard
    X570 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Platinum RGB 3600MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Asus ROG Strix 1000W
    Case
    Corsair D750 Airflow
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Asus ROG Flare
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
More findings if you open cmd, the antivirus will start freezing anything. The problem is the Antimalware platform update because i downgraded with a backup image that i have with macrium reflect and the when it updates the problem will start.
What is this magic....
Well it's an annoying problem but as it's not just my PC I'm not overly concerned about it being a hardware issue. Mine plus one other in the house, and yours as well
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5900X 12-core
    Motherboard
    X570 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Platinum RGB 3600MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Asus ROG Strix 1000W
    Case
    Corsair D750 Airflow
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Asus ROG Flare
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
As always, it can be a detective exercise.

First thing is to see if you get issue in safe mode.

Next clean install OS in a bootable vhd and update to latest build

Then install apps one by one, testing as you go along.
That's a lot of work when it wasn't just happening on one PC
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5900X 12-core
    Motherboard
    X570 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Platinum RGB 3600MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Asus ROG Strix 1000W
    Case
    Corsair D750 Airflow
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Asus ROG Flare
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
That's a lot of work when it wasn't just happening on one PC
Most likely it is an app affected by update. In the end, this sort of issue is not easy to find. Yiu could try and install last update.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
Most likely it is an app affected by update. In the end, this sort of issue is not easy to find. Yiu could try and install last update.
This was happening before the latest CU yesterday. I uninstalled it anyway and the problem persists. The other PC here didn't have the CU before we noticed the problem
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5900X 12-core
    Motherboard
    X570 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Platinum RGB 3600MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Asus ROG Strix 1000W
    Case
    Corsair D750 Airflow
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Asus ROG Flare
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
The problem is back.
If you disable all protections in defender and restart and then enable only realtime protection without the two cloud options (protection and sample sumbition) and the self defence option (the last option,i dont remenber the english name for it because i have greek windows), it will work.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro latest
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600
    Motherboard
    Msi b550 gaming gen3
    Memory
    32 gb 3200 mhz xmp (4x8)
    Graphics Card(s)
    msi rtx3060 8gb
    Sound Card
    sound blaster audigy fx
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 222V8LA/00
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1080
    Hard Drives
    MX500 Crucial
    PSU
    corsair cv 750
    Case
    q-tech
    Cooling
    deepcool gammaxx 200t
    Keyboard
    k81 gigabyte force
    Mouse
    Viper V530
    Internet Speed
    100-10
    Browser
    Mozilla
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
  • Operating System
    windows 11 pro latest
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo T420
    CPU
    i5-2520M
    Memory
    8Gb ddr3 1333 mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    hd3000
    Sound Card
    on board
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Team group lite 3d 240gb
    Internet Speed
    100-10
    Antivirus
    defender
The problem is back.
If you disable all protections in defender and restart and then enable only realtime protection without the two cloud options (protection and sample sumbition) and the self defence option (the last option,i dont remenber the english name for it because i have greek windows), it will work.
I can't disable Cloud protection, it may be because I'm on Release Preview or there's some other reason it's enabled but not selectable.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5900X 12-core
    Motherboard
    X570 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Platinum RGB 3600MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Asus ROG Strix 1000W
    Case
    Corsair D750 Airflow
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Asus ROG Flare
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
With AveYo tool i will install above 11 windows the 10 (downgrade) and i will tell the result.
I see that we have creative soundcards can you check if you uninstall sound card drivers what happens?
(without internet to protect download )
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro latest
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600
    Motherboard
    Msi b550 gaming gen3
    Memory
    32 gb 3200 mhz xmp (4x8)
    Graphics Card(s)
    msi rtx3060 8gb
    Sound Card
    sound blaster audigy fx
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 222V8LA/00
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1080
    Hard Drives
    MX500 Crucial
    PSU
    corsair cv 750
    Case
    q-tech
    Cooling
    deepcool gammaxx 200t
    Keyboard
    k81 gigabyte force
    Mouse
    Viper V530
    Internet Speed
    100-10
    Browser
    Mozilla
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
  • Operating System
    windows 11 pro latest
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo T420
    CPU
    i5-2520M
    Memory
    8Gb ddr3 1333 mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    hd3000
    Sound Card
    on board
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Team group lite 3d 240gb
    Internet Speed
    100-10
    Antivirus
    defender
I'm still have "some" random freezes, not a many as before, mine only happen in my browsers, Edge and Chrome, it never freezes or acts up, unless I'm browsing the web.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Enterprise, 11 Pro, Win LTSB Enterprise, Win LTSC, Win 10 Pro Win 7 Pro.
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware PC
    CPU
    Intel i7 4790K
    Motherboard
    ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2
    PSU
    EVGA 850 watt
    Case
    Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
    Keyboard
    HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless
    Internet Speed
    1.2 GHz
    Browser
    Chrome
With AveYo tool i will install above 11 windows the 10 (downgrade) and i will tell the result.
I see that we have creative soundcards can you check if you uninstall sound card drivers what happens?
(without internet to protect download )
I'm not able to uninstall the soundcard right now, have you tried it?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5900X 12-core
    Motherboard
    X570 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Platinum RGB 3600MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Asus ROG Strix 1000W
    Case
    Corsair D750 Airflow
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Asus ROG Flare
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

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