Ran compatability diagnostic script and says this PC cant run 11

The board is an ASUS MB m4a87td-evo

Win11CompChk
Batch file started by DESKTOP-H2L8KHA\sdown at 7:26:30.29.
Finished at 7:27:51.85.
Took around 01 :21,56..
RESULTS:

CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor [4 Cores, 4 Threads, 3200MHz]
RAM: 4095 MB
CPU Arch: 64-bit
OS Arch: 64-bit
Boot Mode: Legacy
Secure Boot: Secure Boot Not Supported
Disk Par Style: MBR (Note that this is the boot drive)
Free Space on C: 368 GB
DirectX Version: DirectX12
WDDM Version: 2.7
TPM: Present: False, Enabled: False, Version:
Internet: Has Internet Connectivity

RESULTS: You can't run Windows 11 on your computer.
The Results is from Win11CompChk by jbcarreon123.

So, you are on the Legacy BIOS mode, Windows 11 requires UEFI-enabled system, TPM is required, Secure Boot is required, GPT disk is required, and CPU is not supported.

sdowney717 said:

RESULTS: You can't run Windows 11 on your computer.
The Results is from Win11CompChk by jbcarreon123.

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The manual for your motherboard makes no mention of UEFI. It appears you have a Legacy BIOS, so officially Microsoft won't allow installing or upgrading to Win11 on this machine.


Nor does it appear that your processor is on the list of supported AMD processors.


Now there are various workarounds that can bypass Microsoft's checks and force W11 to install on unsupported hardware. But while those work for the current Insider builds, there's no guarantee that they will work in the RTM release build. And even if they do, it's uncertain if an unsupported install will get Windows Updates.

Looks like you will have to stick with Windows 10. But that is no bad thing, it will be supported until 2025 with a Feature Update to 21H2 due out shortly.

Got that motherboard here with a Phenom II 1090T X6 on an old PC, no UEFI it's way too old. Interesting board in that it has Firewire, USB3, 6 SATA 3 and one IDE connector. Runs Win10 reasonably well with 16GB of DDR3. I didn't bother checking it for 11 as It's a 10 year old legacy bios board. PC just used as additional storage now.

I have been using this daily at home, but eventually it is going back to the boat as I use it as a chart PC with OpenCPN and the NOAA free maps.
What year did UEFI show up on mboards?

I have a WD blue SSD of 500gb on this and it works well.

sdowney717 said:

What year did UEFI show up on mboards?

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Version 2.0 of the UEFI specification was released on 31 January 2006...

...but it didn't start becoming commonplace on motherboards until later. 2012 for Gigabyte...

...and the first UEFI news on the Asus site was in 2014.

jbcarreon123 said:

So, you are on the Legacy BIOS mode, Windows 11 requires UEFI-enabled system, TPM is required, Secure Boot is required, GPT disk is required, and CPU is not supported.

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Says Microsoft. But doesn't care Windows 11 (ver. 22000.160)

The Setup is only does check the Compatibility checks. Not Windows 11 itself.

Unawave said:

Says Microsoft. But doesn't care Windows 11 (ver. 22000.160)

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With just 2GB RAM, a single core/thread and only the MS Basic Display Adapter, that must be painfully slow. I know mine was, and that at least had a few more cores/threads. No 64-bit OS should be asked to run in 2GB RAM.

Yes, the Insider build can be made to run on almost anything. Whether that continues to be the case with the RTM release build, and if it is, whether it will be able to get Windows Updates, remains to be seen. My guess it that an install on unsupported hardware will soon run into problems after the release date, if only because MS will likely sooner or later add code that relies on the missing functions.

I'm pretty sure that Phenom II is a two core processor, so checked, yes it's a dual core processor. They didn't have hyperthreading back then.

clam1952 said:

I'm pretty sure that PhenemII is a two core processor, yep its a dual core processor

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So it is, odd that WhyNotWin11 said 1 core/1 thread.

Is odd, just as a test to see if it just doesn't like Phenoms, have run it on my ancient Phenom II X6 and it's detecting that correctly.

Maybe there's a switch in unawave's bios to limit cores in use?

Bree said:

Maybe there's a switch in unawave's bios to limit cores in use?

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If it's an Asus board that would probably be yes as there is in mine.

Bree said:

With just 2GB RAM, a single core/thread and only the MS Basic Display Adapter, that must be painfully slow.

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It runs fine if you do easy things like word processing, internet, email, etc. - even on a 12 year old notebook:
HP Compaq 6735s: Vista Home Basic pre-installed, Graphic: ATI Radeon HD 3200, CPU: AMD Sempron SI-40 single core 2 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 60 GB SSD (for 15$).

We - who are discussing here - are the "early adaptors" and heavy users and have much higher demands; e.g. running many programs at same time.

Bree said:

Yes, the Insider build can be made to run on almost anything.

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And WE are the people who going to friends and neighbours - our real community - and say proudly: "I have the brand new Windows 11. But your computer isn't compatible - must buy a newer one." And the family fathers (and / or mothers) with small income worry about to buy new computers for all their kids (and grandparents). And if not, they'll be bullied in the schoolyard (or retirement home).

Bree said:

Whether that continues to be the case with the RTM release build, and if it is, whether it will be able to get Windows Updates

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I have installed version 22000.1 and it has updated itself in one step to 22000.160. So, on this stage update works fine.

Bree said:

My guess it that an install on unsupported hardware will soon run into problems after the release date, if only because MS will likely sooner or later add code that relies on the missing functions.

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Why Microsoft didn't add the "code that relies on the missing functions" in the developer preview? And what are the "missing functions" that TPM, etc. makes indispensable? The only "missing function" that I know is "Android-support".

And the developer preview shows that Windows 11 CAN run on older computers without legacy BIOS mode, without UEFI-enabled, without TPM, without secure Boot, without GPT disk, without high-end CPU, without high-end graphic card. And what sense makes it that Microsoft offers a developer preview which doesn't have these restrictions?

I GUESS that in this case nothing will be changed in the RTM. But time will show.

And I am not wasting time in worry about how to get a TPM chip till it is clear that this is absolutely necessary.

I am also thinking of wasting computer equipment.
And think all the requirements that Microsoft has announced are merely recommendations.

Unawave said:

I GUESS that in this case nothing will be changed in the RTM. But time will show.

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I hope you are correct. Me, I expect the worse and plan accordingly - that way I won't be disappointed

My most used machine is getting very long in the tooth, at over 10 years old it's overdue to be replaced anyway. I bought the cheapest used 'W11 ready' laptop I could find as its replacement and will be copying the W10 OS with all my installed apps from the old one to the new one come the RTM release, then to be upgraded through windows update. That's System One in my specs below.

My System Two is one of my less used machines and is well below spec for W11. It's currently running with a spare HDD, a clone of its original, and was upgraded to 22000.1. The original W10 HDD is safely tucked away, to be reinstalled should the RTM release cause problems.

My point is that any conclusions we draw from the Dev/Beta builds can only be guesswork at best. It would be taking a risk to upgrade our main/only PC now and expect it to run the RTM release without problems. Worst case scenario would require a clean install to go back to W10.

I am also thinking of wasting computer equipment.

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Me too, so the rest of my below spec machines will stay on W10, supported until 2025.

Unawave said:

Why Microsoft didn't add the "code that relies on the missing functions" in the developer preview? And what are the "missing functions" that TPM, etc. makes indispensable? The only "missing function" that I know is "Android-support".

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I'm making a guess that the missing functions are those that might stop unsupported hardware working in the RTM, probably won't find out until MS have made a final decision over where the Processor cutoff is going to be, generation 8 or 7 or something else, probably based on whatever data they are obtaining from unsuported insider setups, all crystal ball stuff at the moment.

Anyone who I know who is worried about Win11 and not being able to upgrade, I've told to stop worrying, they have four more years of Win10 to go yet, some have only just managed to get on Win10!

My below spec PCs are all staying on 10, after that maybe Linux, I never throw anything out it all gets donated, taken to the charity shop round the corner or properly recycled, if has ceased working and beyond repair.

sdowney717 said:

What year did UEFI show up on mboards?

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Socket AM3 boards had UEFI on AMD 9xx chipsets (AMD 970/990) since late 2012 (ex. Asus 970 Pro Gaming, Sabretooth 990FX, etc.)
you're Asus board has AMD 870 chipset which still has legacy BIOS (non-UEFI)

erpster4 said:

Socket AM3 boards had UEFI on AMD 9xx chipsets (AMD 970/990) since late 2012 (ex. Asus 970 Pro Gaming, Sabretooth 990FX, etc.)
you're Asus board has AMD 870 chipset which still has legacy BIOS (non-UEFI)

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I found there there is a long thread on here where you can force win11 install and it runs ok on older hardware.
And it does not seem to difficult.

I don't think any pc using DDR3 would have any chance of being compatible, many DDR4 machines do not